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Bush Identification Please?
Hi,
Can anyone identify the bush displayed in the linked images. It is ball shaped and around 9 feet diameter. Normally at this time of year it looks like a giant snowball. This year however it looks a little 'sad' and sparse of blossom. This may be due to the weird seasons we have been having, or possibly affected by development to the rear of my property - depending on how much its roots spread. If I can discover what it is then maybe I can nurture it. I would hate to lose it by inattention as it has sentimental value - it being gifted and planted by my sister just before her death. Images are at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_001.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_002.jpg TIA Mel. |
Bush Identification Please?
On 19/6/08 16:30, in article , "Astral
Voyager" wrote: Hi, Can anyone identify the bush displayed in the linked images. It is ball shaped and around 9 feet diameter. Normally at this time of year it looks like a giant snowball. This year however it looks a little 'sad' and sparse of blossom. This may be due to the weird seasons we have been having, or possibly affected by development to the rear of my property - depending on how much its roots spread. If I can discover what it is then maybe I can nurture it. I would hate to lose it by inattention as it has sentimental value - it being gifted and planted by my sister just before her death. Images are at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_001.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_002.jpg We have a Philadelphus called 'Snowstorm' and if it isn't your plant it has to be a first cousin. Ray has just brought me a sprig of it and I think it must be close. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking to do!) |
Bush Identification Please?
"Sacha" wrote: Images are at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_001.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_002.jpg We have a Philadelphus called 'Snowstorm' and if it isn't your plant it has to be a first cousin. Ray has just brought me a sprig of it and I think it must be close. Thanks for that. Looking at various images for types of Philadelphus on the web the closest would appear to be 'Buckley's Quill' but I am not 100% convinced by any of the images. The sources would also indicate the Philadelphus are heavily scented but there is no discernable scent from mine. Mel. |
Bush Identification Please?
On 19/6/08 22:00, in article , "Astral
Voyager" wrote: "Sacha" wrote: Images are at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_001.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_002.jpg We have a Philadelphus called 'Snowstorm' and if it isn't your plant it has to be a first cousin. Ray has just brought me a sprig of it and I think it must be close. Thanks for that. Looking at various images for types of Philadelphus on the web the closest would appear to be 'Buckley's Quill' but I am not 100% convinced by any of the images. The sources would also indicate the Philadelphus are heavily scented but there is no discernable scent from mine. Mel. Try on a warm day but I think scents do vary, especially on the cultivars. 50 years ago I met my first Phil in my parents' Guernsey garden. It flowered prolifically and it scented like heaven on a stem. I've never met one so good but it certainly was not any highly developed hybrid. I can only say that you describe yours as not doing so well this year and I have never managed to grow a good one. So, to me, yours looks wonderful! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking to do!) |
Bush Identification Please?
"Sacha" wrote: So, to me, yours looks wonderful! As said it is very poor this year - which is why I am worried about it. Normally it is a giant while ball with hardly any greenery visible. A very striking but short lived display. After the petals shed the ground around it normally looks like it has snowed - totally whited over (and a pig to clear up). If I can find the photo I took of it last year I will post that up so you can see what I mean. Mel. |
Bush Identification Please?
On 19/6/08 23:50, in article , "Astral
Voyager" wrote: "Sacha" wrote: So, to me, yours looks wonderful! As said it is very poor this year - which is why I am worried about it. Normally it is a giant while ball with hardly any greenery visible. A very striking but short lived display. After the petals shed the ground around it normally looks like it has snowed - totally whited over (and a pig to clear up). If I can find the photo I took of it last year I will post that up so you can see what I mean. Mel. How old is this plant? Does it need watering? Have neighbouring builders poured out cement buckets over its roots - I've known that happen a few times! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking to do!) |
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Bush Identification Please?
"beccabunga" wrote: Can anyone identify the bush displayed in the linked images. Images are at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_001.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....icture_002.jpg Either Deutzia gracilis or Deutzia scabra Deutzia scabra looks very good though the leaf shape seems a bit off if you look at: http://a.gerard4.free.fr/images9/Deutzia_scabra.jpg and compare it to mine. Some images also show the flowers with a pink 'flash' on some of the outer petals. Actually... Looking at several images would indicate there are many variations of Deutzia scabra - or nobody is sure what they look like. Still definitely the best match seen so far. Thanks. Mel. |
Bush Identification Please?
"Sacha" wrote: How old is this plant? Does it need watering? Have neighbouring builders poured out cement buckets over its roots - I've known that happen a few times! You have probably seen that 'beccabunga' seems to have successfully identified the bush. To answer your queries though... 1. It will be just over 11 years since it was planted. 2. After this spring??? But no. It is on very good soil. The best in the garden. 3. A possibility. As I mentioned earlier there has been some development to the rear of my property which could have impacted on the root system - dependent on how far they spread. Many thanks for your input. Now to try and find some care tips for it. To be honest...I am not really a plant person and they tend to shrink in fear on my approach. Mel. |
They usually need little care, apart from pruning out the flowered stems, cutting back to new growth if possible. Try thinning it a bit, taking out around a third of the old stems. We have two in the garden which seem to do fine without more attention than that.
Last year's extremely wet July seems to have affected some of our mid-summer flowering shrubs, which have less flower on them than usual. Our laburnum was pathetic, with about a tenth of its normal flower. So it is possible that deutzias didn't like having so much water at that time of year. |
Bush Identification Please?
"beccabunga" wrote: They usually need little care, apart from pruning out the flowered stems, cutting back to new growth if possible. Try thinning it a bit, taking out around a third of the old stems. We have two in the garden which seem to do fine without more attention than that. Today has been the first day I have had chance to have a close look at this. I assume from what you said that it flowers on last years growth. I find it hard to tell what is old and new growth**. It all looks pretty much the same to me. Though I do note that those stems that have had flowers on have darker leaves than those without. Are these the ones that need to go? The ones with the lighter leaves being the 'new growth'. I also note that there is another plant growing close to it and up through it. I have no idea what it is**. It is likely something that has set itself. There is an image at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....p/picture1.jpg Would it be a good idea to rip this out and avoid any competion between it and the Deutzia scabra? TIA ** You have to allow for that fact that understanding my competance as a gardener requires you to recall the most inept gardener that it has been your misfortune to meet, multiply their ineptness by at least a factor of ten, and then you might be coming close to me - but still falling short. Mel |
Bush Identification Please?
Astral Voyager writes
Today has been the first day I have had chance to have a close look at this. I assume from what you said that it flowers on last years growth. I find it hard to tell what is old and new growth**. It all looks pretty much the same to me. Though I do note that those stems that have had flowers on have darker leaves than those without. Are these the ones that need to go? The ones with the lighter leaves being the 'new growth'. I also note that there is another plant growing close to it and up through it. I have no idea what it is**. It is likely something that has set itself. There is an image at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/astral....p/picture1.jpg The thing in the picture with the vaguely holly-like leaves and the fruits setting is Mahonia aquifolia. Attractive purple fruits, good autumn colour, fragrant yellow flowers in spring. -- Kay |
Bush Identification Please?
In article , K
writes The thing in the picture with the vaguely holly-like leaves and the fruits setting is Mahonia aquifolia. Attractive purple fruits, good autumn colour, fragrant yellow flowers in spring. It can take over a bed a bit Kay, it's easy to move a bit by yanking out some of the other stems as they should be rooted in the ground. I find I have to prune mine quite a bit as they go sideways and start to encompass an enormous width of ground!On the other hand i don't think it will necessarily strangle the deutzia but it will make pruning the deutzia more tricky if the Mahonia is allowed to get too tall. Also a swine if it gets ground elder amongst its stems as in one of my beds! -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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