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Saxman 03-07-2008 05:18 PM

Oleander
 
I've seen quite a lot of Oleander growing in Baden-Baden, Germany and
Seville, Spain and they seem to thrive. Two extremes I'd say during the
Winter/Summer.

Any advice for growing them in this country?

Jeff Layman 03-07-2008 07:25 PM

Oleander
 
Saxman wrote:
I've seen quite a lot of Oleander growing in Baden-Baden, Germany and
Seville, Spain and they seem to thrive. Two extremes I'd say during
the Winter/Summer.

Any advice for growing them in this country?


I've seen Oleander left growing outside in pots in West Sussex with no
protection over winter, and surviving quite well. Of course, there may well
be different cultivars about with differing resistance to cold.

Might help if you could obtain cuttings from the Baden-Baden plants, root
them, and grow them on.

--
Jeff
(cut "thetape" to reply)



beccabunga 03-07-2008 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxman (Post 801656)
I've seen quite a lot of Oleander growing in Baden-Baden, Germany and
Seville, Spain and they seem to thrive. Two extremes I'd say during the
Winter/Summer.

Any advice for growing them in this country?

They hate cold wet weather, so ours is in a pot that goes out in the summer and comes into the conservatory in the winter.

Beware - they are one of the most poisonous plants. All parts are highly toxic.

Saxman 04-07-2008 07:08 AM

Oleander
 
beccabunga wrote:

Beware - they are one of the most poisonous plants. All parts are
highly toxic.


I'm surprised they used for public display in such quantities then?

Sacha[_3_] 04-07-2008 09:15 AM

Oleander
 
On 4/7/08 07:08, in article ,
"Saxman" wrote:

beccabunga wrote:

Beware - they are one of the most poisonous plants. All parts are
highly toxic.


I'm surprised they used for public display in such quantities then?


In Med. Countries they're used on the meridian of highways. I suppose they
either don't know or don't care. Of course they might not expect motorists
to hop out and chew a leaf or three. ;-) Our local council planted Ricinus
on a roundabout not far from here. IME they will live and flower outdoors
in warmer spots in UK but they don't flower as well as they do in places
with longer, hotter summers.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking
to do!)



Judith in France 04-07-2008 10:40 AM

Oleander
 
On Jul 4, 9:15 am, Sacha wrote:
On 4/7/08 07:08, in article ,

"Saxman" wrote:
beccabunga wrote:


Beware - they are one of the most poisonous plants. All parts are
highly toxic.


I'm surprised they used for public display in such quantities then?


In Med. Countries they're used on the meridian of highways. I suppose they
either don't know or don't care. Of course they might not expect motorists
to hop out and chew a leaf or three. ;-) Our local council planted Ricinus
on a roundabout not far from here. IME they will live and flower outdoors
in warmer spots in UK but they don't flower as well as they do in places
with longer, hotter summers.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking
to do!)


Do you remember you posted a pic for me last Summer of the Oleander in
a pot that the villagers gave us? I brought it into the barn for the
Winter and kept it almost dry. Now it's back outside lush and green
with flower buds and it's put on new growth, I will post a pic when it
is in flower.

Judith

Granity 04-07-2008 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxman (Post 801789)
beccabunga wrote:

Beware - they are one of the most poisonous plants. All parts are
highly toxic.


I'm surprised they used for public display in such quantities then?

You will find the countries on the continent are so stupidly nanny-state like as the UK. Their attitude is that if you eat something without knowing what it is then you're a pillock. :-) And quite right too

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 04-07-2008 11:03 AM

Oleander
 
In article ,
says...
I've seen quite a lot of Oleander growing in Baden-Baden, Germany and
Seville, Spain and they seem to thrive. Two extremes I'd say during the
Winter/Summer.

Any advice for growing them in this country?

Lots of heat and sun and wind protection inwinter, so in front of a south
wall. the problem is not so much survival as getting the flowers to open
while its still summer!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

beccabunga 04-07-2008 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Granity (Post 801794)
You will find the countries on the continent are so stupidly nanny-state like as the UK. Their attitude is that if you eat something without knowing what it is then you're a pillock. :-) And quite right too

Also, in its native countries people are very well aware of its dangers - on the whole.

stuart noble 04-07-2008 01:43 PM

Oleander
 
beccabunga wrote:
Granity;801794 Wrote:
You will find the countries on the continent are so stupidly nanny-state
like as the UK. Their attitude is that if you eat something without
knowing what it is then you're a pillock. :-) And quite right too


Also, in its native countries people are very well aware of its dangers
- on the whole.





Is that the thing that grows everywhere in Greece? Almost as prolific as
Bougainvillea and comes in white and pink IIRC

Nick Maclaren 04-07-2008 02:00 PM

Oleander
 

In article ,
stuart noble writes:
|
| Is that the thing that grows everywhere in Greece? Almost as prolific as
| Bougainvillea and comes in white and pink IIRC

Yup. It kills the occasional tourist who uses it for making kebab
skewers for the barbeque, but ignorant tourists are a dime a dozen.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha[_3_] 04-07-2008 02:25 PM

Oleander
 
On 4/7/08 13:43, in article , "stuart
noble" wrote:

beccabunga wrote:
Granity;801794 Wrote:
You will find the countries on the continent are so stupidly nanny-state
like as the UK. Their attitude is that if you eat something without
knowing what it is then you're a pillock. :-) And quite right too


Also, in its native countries people are very well aware of its dangers
- on the whole.





Is that the thing that grows everywhere in Greece? Almost as prolific as
Bougainvillea and comes in white and pink IIRC


Sounds like it. It's very pretty, especially when seen in pots on a terrace
or in great masses in banks. I love it but we don't even try to grow it in
our garden. We have friends with them in seaside locations and they do
pretty well.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking
to do!)



K 04-07-2008 03:46 PM

Oleander
 
Saxman writes
beccabunga wrote:

Beware - they are one of the most poisonous plants. All parts are
highly toxic.


I'm surprised they used for public display in such quantities then?


As others have said, locals are very aware of their toxicity. And they
are ideally suited for their purpose, which is to provide shade for
people travelling along the road - lots of dense growth in summer and an
ability to tolerate a fairly hostile growing environment.
Decorativeness is a bonus.
--
Kay

Sacha[_3_] 04-07-2008 04:10 PM

Oleander
 
On 4/7/08 15:46, in article , "K"
wrote:

Saxman writes
beccabunga wrote:

Beware - they are one of the most poisonous plants. All parts are
highly toxic.


I'm surprised they used for public display in such quantities then?


As others have said, locals are very aware of their toxicity. And they
are ideally suited for their purpose, which is to provide shade for
people travelling along the road - lots of dense growth in summer and an
ability to tolerate a fairly hostile growing environment.
Decorativeness is a bonus.


The other factor is that a lot of Med inhabitants still take food from the
wild and know what is and isn't safe. On the whole, that isn't something we
seem to do much in this country any more.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking
to do!)



stuart noble 04-07-2008 05:26 PM

Oleander
 
Sacha wrote:
On 4/7/08 15:46, in article , "K"
wrote:

Saxman writes
beccabunga wrote:

Beware - they are one of the most poisonous plants. All parts are
highly toxic.
I'm surprised they used for public display in such quantities then?

As others have said, locals are very aware of their toxicity. And they
are ideally suited for their purpose, which is to provide shade for
people travelling along the road - lots of dense growth in summer and an
ability to tolerate a fairly hostile growing environment.
Decorativeness is a bonus.


The other factor is that a lot of Med inhabitants still take food from the
wild and know what is and isn't safe. On the whole, that isn't something we
seem to do much in this country any more.


Last year when I was picking blackberries in the local park, a schoolboy
asked me what I was collecting. Sad isn't it? A true taste delight that,
literally, money can't buy.


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