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Horse Manure - Problems
I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) |
Horse Manure - Problems
"stephen.hill" wrote in message ... I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) I wonder if they are referring to the problem highlighted on GQT last Sunday, see attached link http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/gqt/ -- Rowdens Reservoir Allotments Association www.rraa.moonfruit.com Feed the soil, save the planet |
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:20:00 +0100, stephen.hill
wrote: I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) There was some bloke who died from inhaling spores from leaves I think http://news.google.co.uk/news?source...21925474&hl=en -- http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk |
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:53:16 +0100, "Robert \(Plymouth\)"
wrote: "stephen.hill" wrote in message .. . I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) I wonder if they are referring to the problem highlighted on GQT last Sunday, see attached link http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/gqt/ Excellent - that is almost certainly what prompted the comment - many thanks. |
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:24:09 +0100, mogga
wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:20:00 +0100, stephen.hill wrote: I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) There was some bloke who died from inhaling spores from leaves I think http://news.google.co.uk/news?source...21925474&hl=en May thanks - I suspect that it was more likely the GQT item which Robert has linked. I must say it is interesting to see the "dangers" we expose ourselves to!!! |
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Hi Guys
I Never use Horse Shit or Cow Dung As A Semi Pro Landscape Gardener Use Mushroom or Natural Grass etc Mixed with Soil & May Be Some Lime Regards Skinty "stephen.hill" wrote in message ... On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:24:09 +0100, mogga wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:20:00 +0100, stephen.hill wrote: I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) There was some bloke who died from inhaling spores from leaves I think http://news.google.co.uk/news?source...21925474&hl=en May thanks - I suspect that it was more likely the GQT item which Robert has linked. I must say it is interesting to see the "dangers" we expose ourselves to!!! |
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In article ,
says... Hi Guys I Never use Horse Shit or Cow Dung As A Semi Pro Landscape Gardener Use Mushroom or Natural Grass etc Mixed with Soil & May Be Some Lime Regards Skinty I thought mushroom compost was horse manure and peat? -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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Charlie Pridham wrote:
In article , says... Hi Guys I Never use Horse Shit or Cow Dung As A Semi Pro Landscape Gardener Use Mushroom or Natural Grass etc Mixed with Soil & May Be Some Lime Regards Skinty I thought mushroom compost was horse manure and peat? The way lots of things are being banned or declared unhealthy it will soon be a boring grey world! |
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The message
from Charlie Pridham contains these words: I thought mushroom compost was horse manure and peat? Often 'tis, sometimes with a little added whiting. Also, spruce needles and whiting are used in some areas. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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On 10 Jul, 09:07, Broadback wrote:
The way lots of things are being banned or declared unhealthy it will soon be a boring grey world! C'mon! This is herbicide, aminopyralid we're talking about. It's an hormone type herbicide for weeds on pastures. Why?! Can't the horses find the right stuff to eat? I'm no expert on horses, nor pastures, but there's something really odd with using pesticide on pastures. |
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stephen.hill wrote:
I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) Not sure if there are spores, but I had a weed free garden at my last house, I then had a trailer of horse manure delivered one winter, and was inundated with weeds for the next 5 years, presumably from seeds amongst the horse dung. Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. |
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On 11 Jul, 18:36, (A.Lee) wrote:
stephen.hill wrote: I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! *(He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) Not sure if there are spores, but I had a weed free garden at my last house, I then had a trailer of horse manure delivered one winter, and was inundated with weeds for the next 5 years, presumably from seeds amongst the horse dung. Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. I suspect it is as a result of reading something like this. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...edicalresearch David Hill |
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"A.Lee" wrote in message ... stephen.hill wrote: I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) Not sure if there are spores, but I had a weed free garden at my last house, I then had a trailer of horse manure delivered one winter, and was inundated with weeds for the next 5 years, presumably from seeds amongst the horse dung. Correct composting at a high temperature should kill all the weed seeds. I have a feeling the spores in horse manure might be an urban scare legend or refer to a mould spore such as Aspergillus found on rotting plant material. -- Chris Ignoti nulla cupido |
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On 11 Jul, 21:34, "Cerumen" wrote:
"A.Lee" wrote in message ... stephen.hill wrote: I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the allotment area. He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details. I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems? Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! *(He does get confused so there may be nothing in it) Not sure if there are spores, but I had a weed free garden at my last house, I then had a trailer of horse manure delivered one winter, and was inundated with weeds for the next 5 years, presumably from seeds amongst the horse dung. Correct composting at a high temperature should kill all the weed seeds. I have a feeling the spores in horse manure might be an urban scare legend or refer to a mould spore such as Aspergillus found on rotting plant material. -- Chris Ignoti nulla cupido- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's nothing to do with weed seed, it's the various fungus that grow in compost/straw/hay when it is damp but not wet enough to rot down. hence things like Farmers Lung etc. David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
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On Jul 11, 6:28�pm, wrote:
On 10 Jul, 09:07, Broadback wrote: The way lots of things are being banned or declared unhealthy it will soon be a boring grey world! C'mon! This is herbicide, aminopyralid we're talking about. It's an hormone type herbicide for weeds on pastures. Why?! Can't the horses find the right stuff to eat? I'm no expert on horses, nor pastures, but there's something really odd with using pesticide on pastures. I know what you are saying, but It might be more a case of fields growing hay for winter use being treated with these hormones rather than actual grazing pastures, I could be wrong though. |
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On 12 Jul, 13:32, wrote:
I know what you are saying, but It might be more a case of fields growing hay for winter use being treated with these hormones rather than actual grazing pastures, I could be wrong though. You had me thinking at least, and I've found that a field wouldn't have needed herbicide if a) it had been sowed as part of a crop rotation, say after deep rooted crop to surpress weeds, b) being followed by grazing and then sowed with grass clover leys - both are used in organic farming. Perhaps the lesson there, in the case you describe, is not to use manure in mid winter/spring when the horses are eating the 'poisoned' hay early in the winter. So sad to have to come to this really. I use manure only in the autumn. Though I've used a new farm last year and we got rather suprised with tons of sawdust mixed pooh. It didn't do any harm, so far, but didn't look good on the plot. Orange coloured beds is a strange sight ;o) |
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"Dave Hill" wrote in message ... On 11 Jul, 21:34, "Cerumen" wrote: Correct composting at a high temperature should kill all the weed seeds. I have a feeling the spores in horse manure might be an urban scare legend or refer to a mould spore such as Aspergillus found on rotting plant material. It's nothing to do with weed seed, it's the various fungus that grow in compost/straw/hay when it is damp but not wet enough to rot down. hence things like Farmers Lung etc. I thought that was what I said above? -- Chris Ignoti nulla cupido |
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