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Pete C[_2_] 26-07-2008 07:50 PM

ID anyone?
 
I assume it's a snail. Clinging to my garden wall. Never seen anything like
it before.
http://www.blackberrymoon.co.uk/wotami/wotami
--
Pete C
London UK



Stewart Robert Hinsley 26-07-2008 08:03 PM

ID anyone?
 
In message , Pete C
writes
I assume it's a snail. Clinging to my garden wall. Never seen anything like
it before.
http://www.blackberrymoon.co.uk/wotami/wotami


Capaea nemoralis, or something similar. Famous for having many,
substrate-related, colour morphs.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Pete C[_2_] 26-07-2008 08:30 PM

ID anyone?
 
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , Pete C
writes
I assume it's a snail. Clinging to my garden wall. Never seen
anything like it before.
http://www.blackberrymoon.co.uk/wotami/wotami


Capaea nemoralis, or something similar. Famous for having many,
substrate-related, colour morphs.

Thanks Stuart. I Googled for that name. People actually keep them as pets!
--
Pete C
London UK



Stewart Robert Hinsley 26-07-2008 08:48 PM

ID anyone?
 
In message , Pete C
writes
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , Pete C
writes
I assume it's a snail. Clinging to my garden wall. Never seen
anything like it before.
http://www.blackberrymoon.co.uk/wotami/wotami


Capaea nemoralis, or something similar. Famous for having many,
substrate-related, colour morphs.

Thanks Stuart. I Googled for that name. People actually keep them as pets!


I had to Google for the name as well; I remembered the nemoralis bit,
but not the genus, and googling was faster than figuring out where in my
library to find a mention.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Christina Websell 26-07-2008 09:28 PM

ID anyone?
 

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message , Pete C
writes
I assume it's a snail. Clinging to my garden wall. Never seen anything
like
it before.
http://www.blackberrymoon.co.uk/wotami/wotami


Capaea nemoralis, or something similar. Famous for having many,
substrate-related, colour morphs.


My guess would be cepaea hortentis. Very common in my garden. Most folks
only see those big brown/green ones.





Pete C[_2_] 26-07-2008 09:36 PM

ID anyone?
 
Christina Websell wrote:
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message , Pete C
writes
I assume it's a snail. Clinging to my garden wall. Never seen
anything like
it before.
http://www.blackberrymoon.co.uk/wotami/wotami


Capaea nemoralis, or something similar. Famous for having many,
substrate-related, colour morphs.


My guess would be cepaea hortentis. Very common in my garden. Most
folks only see those big brown/green ones.


As far as I undestand it, the difference between nemoralis and hortentis is
the colour of the lip. (brown or white) Too dark for me to go look now.
--
Pete C
London UK



shazzbat 26-07-2008 09:49 PM

ID anyone?
 

"Pete C" wrote in message
...
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , Pete C
writes
I assume it's a snail. Clinging to my garden wall. Never seen
anything like it before.
http://www.blackberrymoon.co.uk/wotami/wotami


Capaea nemoralis, or something similar. Famous for having many,
substrate-related, colour morphs.

Thanks Stuart. I Googled for that name. People actually keep them as pets!
--


We've got them on the allotment. They're much tougher to crack than a normal
snail.

Steve



Christina Websell 26-07-2008 10:10 PM

ID anyone?
 

"Pete C" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message , Pete C
writes
I assume it's a snail. Clinging to my garden wall. Never seen
anything like
it before.
http://www.blackberrymoon.co.uk/wotami/wotami

Capaea nemoralis, or something similar. Famous for having many,
substrate-related, colour morphs.


My guess would be cepaea hortentis. Very common in my garden. Most
folks only see those big brown/green ones.


As far as I undestand it, the difference between nemoralis and hortentis
is the colour of the lip. (brown or white) Too dark for me to go look now.

Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved wrong.
I am always up for learning from those who know better, but for me, it's
hortentis.




Pete C[_2_] 26-07-2008 10:25 PM

ID anyone?
 
Christina Websell wrote:

snippy

Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails? I mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original post was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this amount of
knowledge.
--
Pete C
London UK



K 26-07-2008 11:19 PM

ID anyone?
 
Pete C writes
Christina Websell wrote:

snippy

Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails? I mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original post was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this amount of
knowledge.

Not uncommon to have apparently conflicting interests. I knew a
professional entomologist whose spare time pursuit was growing
insectivorous plants.
--
Kay

Christina Websell 26-07-2008 11:19 PM

ID anyone?
 

"Pete C" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:

snippy

Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails? I
mean, this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original post
was made in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this
amount of knowledge.


Some of us like to gather knowledge all the time, sort of like Eggheads on
BBC2. You never know when it will come in useful.




Pete C[_2_] 26-07-2008 11:34 PM

ID anyone?
 
Christina Websell wrote:
"Pete C" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:

snippy

Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being
proved wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know
better, but for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails?
I mean, this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My
original post was made in the hope that someone may just know, but I
never expected this amount of knowledge.


Some of us like to gather knowledge all the time, sort of like
Eggheads on BBC2. You never know when it will come in useful.

A prog. I love. :)
--
Pete C
London UK



Anne Welsh Jackson 26-07-2008 11:51 PM

ID anyone?
 
"Pete C" wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:


snippy


Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails? I
mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original post
was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this amount of
knowledge.


Know thine enemy, Pete...! ;-)

--
AnneJ

Judith in France 26-07-2008 11:56 PM

ID anyone?
 
On Jul 26, 11:19 pm, K wrote:
Pete C writesChristina Websell wrote:

snippy


Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails? I mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original post was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this amount of
knowledge.


Not uncommon to have apparently conflicting interests. I knew a
professional entomologist whose spare time pursuit was growing
insectivorous plants.
--
Kay


I remember that you have a few very "interesting"plants yourself Kay?
Do you still have them?

Judith

K 27-07-2008 12:20 AM

ID anyone?
 
Judith in France writes
On Jul 26, 11:19 pm, K wrote:
Pete C writesChristina Websell wrote:

snippy


Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails? I mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original post was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this amount of
knowledge.


Not uncommon to have apparently conflicting interests. I knew a
professional entomologist whose spare time pursuit was growing
insectivorous plants.
--


I remember that you have a few very "interesting"plants yourself Kay?
Do you still have them?

I've just got the butterworts now. Nice plants - seem to be in flower
virtually all the year round.
--
Kay

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 27-07-2008 08:41 AM

ID anyone?
 
In article ,
says...
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , Pete C
writes
I assume it's a snail. Clinging to my garden wall. Never seen
anything like it before.
http://www.blackberrymoon.co.uk/wotami/wotami

Capaea nemoralis, or something similar. Famous for having many,
substrate-related, colour morphs.

Thanks Stuart. I Googled for that name. People actually keep them as pets!

I have always known them as "Banded snails" and unlike the big brown jobs
they seem to live above ground in the foliage of plants and are a right
pain with clematis!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 27-07-2008 08:42 AM

ID anyone?
 
In article ,
says...
Christina Websell wrote:

snippy

Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails? I mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original post was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this amount of
knowledge.

Know thy enemy :~)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Anne Welsh Jackson 27-07-2008 11:30 AM

ID anyone?
 
Charlie Pridham wrote:

I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails?
I mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original post
was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this
amount of
knowledge.

Know thy enemy :~)


Snap! GMTA Charlie.

--
AnneJ

Judith in France 27-07-2008 11:32 AM

ID anyone?
 
On Jul 27, 12:20 am, K wrote:
Judith in France writes

On Jul 26, 11:19 pm, K wrote:
Pete C writesChristina Websell wrote:


snippy


Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about snails? I mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original post was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this amount of
knowledge.


Not uncommon to have apparently conflicting interests. I knew a
professional entomologist whose spare time pursuit was growing
insectivorous plants.
--


I remember that you have a few very "interesting"plants yourself Kay?
Do you still have them?


I've just got the butterworts now. Nice plants - seem to be in flower
virtually all the year round.
--
Kay


Is your greenhouse/hot house still packed out with cacti?

Judith

K 27-07-2008 04:16 PM

ID anyone?
 
Judith in France writes
On Jul 27, 12:20 am, K wrote:
Judith in France writes

On Jul 26, 11:19 pm, K wrote:
Pete C writesChristina Websell wrote:


snippy


Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about
snails? I mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original
was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this
amount of
knowledge.


Not uncommon to have apparently conflicting interests. I knew a
professional entomologist whose spare time pursuit was growing
insectivorous plants.
--


I remember that you have a few very "interesting"plants yourself Kay?
Do you still have them?


I've just got the butterworts now. Nice plants - seem to be in flower
virtually all the year round.
--


Is your greenhouse/hot house still packed out with cacti?

Not packed out. About half full. The other half has courgettes, peppers,
beans (for the snail free environment) and masses of seelings being
grown on ready for planting out.
--
Kay

Judith in France 27-07-2008 04:58 PM

ID anyone?
 
On Jul 27, 4:16 pm, K wrote:
Judith in France writes

On Jul 27, 12:20 am, K wrote:
Judith in France writes


On Jul 26, 11:19 pm, K wrote:
Pete C writesChristina Websell wrote:


snippy


Oh, please go out and look ;- ) Joking of course. Nemoralis, in my
experience has fewer bands on the shell and your photo fits exactly
hortentis for me. Other views may vary and I never mind being proved
wrong. I am always up for learning from those who know better, but
for me, it's hortentis.


I'm curious.........how do you and others know so much about
snails? I mean,
this is a gardening group.......snails are a PITA. My original
was made
in the hope that someone may just know, but I never expected this
amount of
knowledge.


Not uncommon to have apparently conflicting interests. I knew a
professional entomologist whose spare time pursuit was growing
insectivorous plants.
--


I remember that you have a few very "interesting"plants yourself Kay?
Do you still have them?


I've just got the butterworts now. Nice plants - seem to be in flower
virtually all the year round.
--


Is your greenhouse/hot house still packed out with cacti?


Not packed out. About half full. The other half has courgettes, peppers,
beans (for the snail free environment) and masses of seelings being
grown on ready for planting out.
--
Kay


Time for another meet Kay??????? How is Jane Ranson these days, will
she ever come back to urg do you think?

Judith

K 27-07-2008 05:43 PM

ID anyone?
 
Judith in France writes
Time for another meet Kay??????? How is Jane Ranson these days, will
she ever come back to urg do you think?


Not many of the northern urgler old-timers still around. Jane is fine,
but very busy.
--
Kay

Judith in France 27-07-2008 06:56 PM

ID anyone?
 
On Jul 27, 5:43 pm, K wrote:
Judith in France writes

Time for another meet Kay??????? How is Jane Ranson these days, will
she ever come back to urg do you think?


Not many of the northern urgler old-timers still around. Jane is fine,
but very busy.
--
Kay


That's a shame, do you still see Cormaic? I have spoken to him in
years, I hope he is well, I looked on his webpages and I see he has a
pic of me there!!! Lovely memories of my time in Leeds with you.

Judith

K 27-07-2008 09:29 PM

ID anyone?
 
Judith in France writes
On Jul 27, 5:43 pm, K wrote:
Judith in France writes

Time for another meet Kay??????? How is Jane Ranson these days, will
she ever come back to urg do you think?


Not many of the northern urgler old-timers still around. Jane is fine,
but very busy.


That's a shame, do you still see Cormaic? I have spoken to him in
years, I hope he is well, I looked on his webpages and I see he has a
pic of me there!!! Lovely memories of my time in Leeds with you.

Occasionally, but he's pretty busy nowadays!
--
Kay

Roo[_2_] 28-07-2008 09:24 PM

ID anyone?
 
On 27 Jul, 21:29, K wrote:
Judith in France writesOn Jul 27, 5:43 pm, K wrote:
Judith in France writes


Time for another meet Kay??????? *How is Jane Ranson these days, will
she ever come back to urg do you think?


Not many of the northern urgler old-timers still around. Jane is fine,
but very busy.


That's a shame, do you still see Cormaic? *I have spoken to him in
years, I hope he is well, I looked on his webpages and I see he has a
pic of me there!!! *Lovely memories of my time in Leeds with you.


Occasionally, but he's pretty busy nowadays!
--
Kay


Hi folks.

Don't know whether you remember me, but I was one of the 'lurkers'
when Jane Ransom & Cormaic in the north used to regularly post a few
years ago. Only wished I 'd met up with you all at that time on your
days out.

I thought about you all only yesterday, when I went to an NGS open day
at Hesketh Bank near Southport (Hawthorne's Clematis nursery.)

Would've liked to have met up with other keen plantspeople. Had a
great time anyway, and got some good advice from the owner on what to
buy. (Needless to say I bought a lot !)

Getting back to the snail - I too have some on pebbledashed walls -
thought they didn't like uneven surfaces ??

Kind regards.

richardroo.

Judith in France 29-07-2008 12:00 AM

ID anyone?
 
On Jul 28, 9:24 pm, Roo wrote:
On 27 Jul, 21:29, K wrote:



Judith in France writesOn Jul 27, 5:43 pm, K wrote:
Judith in France writes


Time for another meet Kay??????? How is Jane Ranson these days, will
she ever come back to urg do you think?


Not many of the northern urgler old-timers still around. Jane is fine,
but very busy.


That's a shame, do you still see Cormaic? I have spoken to him in
years, I hope he is well, I looked on his webpages and I see he has a
pic of me there!!! Lovely memories of my time in Leeds with you.


Occasionally, but he's pretty busy nowadays!
--
Kay


Hi folks.

Don't know whether you remember me, but I was one of the 'lurkers'
when Jane Ransom & Cormaic in the north used to regularly post a few
years ago. Only wished I 'd met up with you all at that time on your
days out.

I thought about you all only yesterday, when I went to an NGS open day
at Hesketh Bank near Southport (Hawthorne's Clematis nursery.)

Would've liked to have met up with other keen plantspeople. Had a
great time anyway, and got some good advice from the owner on what to
buy. (Needless to say I bought a lot !)

Getting back to the snail - I too have some on pebbledashed walls -
thought they didn't like uneven surfaces ??

Kind regards.

richardroo.


Richard if you lurked, then we don't know you!! I was here in the
time of Cormaic and Jane and do I miss them!!!! I am so glad you have
posted. If you want to know about clematis, then Charlie is your
man. Welcome and keep on posting.

Judith (very hot and bothered as it is sooooooooooo hot here, how on
earth can one sleep tonight?)

Roo[_2_] 29-07-2008 11:09 PM

ID anyone?
 
On 29 Jul, 00:00, Judith in France
wrote:
On Jul 28, 9:24 pm, Roo wrote:



On 27 Jul, 21:29, K wrote:


Judith in France writesOn Jul 27, 5:43 pm, K wrote:
Judith in France writes


Time for another meet Kay??????? *How is Jane Ranson these days, will
she ever come back to urg do you think?


Not many of the northern urgler old-timers still around. Jane is fine,
but very busy.


That's a shame, do you still see Cormaic? *I have spoken to him in
years, I hope he is well, I looked on his webpages and I see he has a
pic of me there!!! *Lovely memories of my time in Leeds with you.


Occasionally, but he's pretty busy nowadays!
--
Kay


Hi folks.


Don't know whether you remember me, but I was one of the 'lurkers'
when Jane Ransom & Cormaic in the north used to regularly post a few
years ago. Only wished I 'd met up with you all at that time on your
days out.


I thought about you all only yesterday, when I went to an NGS open day
at Hesketh Bank near Southport (Hawthorne's Clematis nursery.)


Would've liked to have met up with other keen plantspeople. Had a
great time anyway, and got some good advice from the owner on what to
buy. (Needless to say I bought a lot !)


Getting back to the snail - I too have some on pebbledashed walls -
thought they didn't like uneven surfaces ??


Kind regards.


richardroo.


Richard if you lurked, then we don't know you!! *I was here in the
time of Cormaic and Jane and do I miss them!!!! *I am so glad you have
posted. *If you want to know about clematis, then Charlie is your
man. *Welcome and keep on posting.

Judith (very hot and bothered as it is sooooooooooo hot here, how on
earth can one sleep tonight?)


Thanks for your comments, Judith.

I did post occasionally back then, but I really used to read & enjoy
all the gardening 'gossip' that went on - it was like getting a top
gardening magazine delivered daily online - couldn't wait to read.

I remember Cormaic as an intelligent plantsman with our dry northern
humour, and Judith lived through the Trough near Lancaster (I'm in
Clitheroe.)

You've got me thinking about what I could post, so started a new
thread (that's probably been commented on many times before.....) re
Carol Klein.

Best wishes, and don't hog all that beautiful sun to yourself, send
some up here !!

richardroo

Rusty Hinge 2 03-08-2008 10:52 PM

ID anyone?
 
The message
from Charlie Pridham contains these words:

I have always known them as "Banded snails" and unlike the big brown jobs
they seem to live above ground in the foliage of plants and are a right
pain with clematis!


MTAAAW. Just fed a dozen or so to the thrushes this afternoon while
pruning back the C. horizontalis which grows through 90º (into C.
verticalis?) up the front elevation of me cottij.

Right pain in the cotoneaster innit.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
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Rusty Hinge 2 03-08-2008 10:57 PM

ID anyone?
 
The message

from Roo contains these words:

Thanks for your comments, Judith.


I did post occasionally back then, but I really used to read & enjoy
all the gardening 'gossip' that went on - it was like getting a top
gardening magazine delivered daily online - couldn't wait to read.


I remember Cormaic as an intelligent plantsman with our dry northern
humour, and Judith lived through the Trough near Lancaster (I'm in
Clitheroe.)


You've got me thinking about what I could post, so started a new
thread (that's probably been commented on many times before.....) re
Carol Klein.


Best wishes, and don't hog all that beautiful sun to yourself, send
some up here !!


Well, I remember seening 'Roo' before, but not often. I've been swanning
about in this group since around six months to a year after Zetnet
began. About twelve years? Ish?

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig


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