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We are bombarded with advice from self-appointed experts on the subject of what we should eat.
Disregarding the fact that our eyes both face forwards, indicating a predator,
or the fact that we have a carnivores dentition and digestive system, or the fact that we behave like predators (how many wars have there been?), we are told we must eat veg.
O.K., I confess I like mash with my bangers.
Ah, but we are supposed to eat 5 veg a day.
O.K., so I'll mash 5 spuds.
But they now say the veg have to be different colours !!.
I got that sorted too, food colouring, 1 mashed spud coloured red, 1 green, 1 yellow, 1 blue, and 1 black.

Everybody happy now?? Can I eat my dinner in peace?.
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We are bombarded with advice from self-appointed experts on the subject
of what we should eat.
Disregarding the fact that our eyes both face forwards, indicating a
predator,
or the fact that we have a carnivores dentition and digestive system,
or the fact that we behave like predators (how many wars have there
been?), we are told we must eat veg.
O.K., I confess I like mash with my bangers.
Ah, but we are supposed to eat 5 veg a day.
O.K., so I'll mash 5 spuds.
But they now say the veg have to be different colours !!.
I got that sorted too, food colouring, 1 mashed spud coloured red, 1
green, 1 yellow, 1 blue, and 1 black.

Everybody happy now?? Can I eat my dinner in peace?.



Yes. Don't put too much Butter on those mashed potatoes. Bad for you

Mike


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On 20/08/08 04:43, Tim Perry wrote:
We are bombarded with advice from self-appointed experts on the subject
of what we should eat.
Disregarding the fact that our eyes both face forwards, indicating a
predator,
or the fact that we have a carnivores dentition and digestive system,
or the fact that we behave like predators (how many wars have there
been?), we are told we must eat veg.
O.K., I confess I like mash with my bangers.
Ah, but we are supposed to eat 5 veg a day.
O.K., so I'll mash 5 spuds.
But they now say the veg have to be different colours !!.
I got that sorted too, food colouring, 1 mashed spud coloured red, 1
green, 1 yellow, 1 blue, and 1 black.

Everybody happy now?? Can I eat my dinner in peace?.





LOL! ur so right on the button Tim.

Me, I don't know if I eat 5 a day as the Thought Police recommend. I
just eat seasonally from my allotment. So some days, yeah , I'm stuffed
with spuds, runners, sweetcorn and courgettes. Other days, maybe just
a bit of cabbage. But I do like meat but cant grow a cow or pig or lamb.

Went to a veggie restaurant recently with a mate, ordered my meal but
wanted a side plate of steak!! They were not amused!!

But I do drink 5 pints a day!! So I'm getting the benefit from all that
barley and hops!! I also practice beer-rotation: as new brews come
into my bar each fortnight, I switch. It's like crop rotation. Oh, and
maybe often I have a bottle of wine in the evening to provide the grape
juice; they say it is good for the heart. And I love gin, so then I'm
also getting the benefit of the juniper berries as well.

So Tim, I reckon we should eat n drink a whole lot of different foods.

So, grow what you love; eat what you grow.


Cheers,
Ed




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On 20/08/08 04:43, Tim Perry wrote:
We are bombarded with advice from self-appointed experts on the subject
of what we should eat.
Disregarding the fact that our eyes both face forwards, indicating a
predator,
or the fact that we have a carnivores dentition and digestive system,
or the fact that we behave like predators (how many wars have there
been?), we are told we must eat veg.
O.K., I confess I like mash with my bangers.
Ah, but we are supposed to eat 5 veg a day. O.K., so I'll mash 5 spuds.
But they now say the veg have to be different colours !!. I got that
sorted too, food colouring, 1 mashed spud coloured red, 1
green, 1 yellow, 1 blue, and 1 black.

Everybody happy now?? Can I eat my dinner in peace?.





LOL! ur so right on the button Tim.

Me, I don't know if I eat 5 a day as the Thought Police recommend. I
just eat seasonally from my allotment. So some days, yeah , I'm stuffed
with spuds, runners, sweetcorn and courgettes. Other days, maybe just a
bit of cabbage. But I do like meat but cant grow a cow or pig or lamb.

Went to a veggie restaurant recently with a mate, ordered my meal but
wanted a side plate of steak!! They were not amused!!

But I do drink 5 pints a day!! So I'm getting the benefit from all that
barley and hops!! I also practice beer-rotation: as new brews come into
my bar each fortnight, I switch. It's like crop rotation. Oh, and maybe
often I have a bottle of wine in the evening to provide the grape juice;
they say it is good for the heart. And I love gin, so then I'm also
getting the benefit of the juniper berries as well.

So Tim, I reckon we should eat n drink a whole lot of different foods.

So, grow what you love; eat what you grow.


Cheers,
Ed


This 'health' thing does have its advantages, had to have my blood pressure
checked yesterday. Rather a nice Practice Nurse did it :-)) She wants to see
me again ;-)

Have to offer to take her out one night for breakfast ;-)




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On 20/08/08 04:43, Tim Perry wrote:
We are bombarded with advice from self-appointed experts on the subject
of what we should eat.
Disregarding the fact that our eyes both face forwards, indicating a
predator,
or the fact that we have a carnivores dentition and digestive system,
or the fact that we behave like predators (how many wars have there
been?), we are told we must eat veg.
O.K., I confess I like mash with my bangers.
Ah, but we are supposed to eat 5 veg a day.
O.K., so I'll mash 5 spuds.
But they now say the veg have to be different colours !!.
I got that sorted too, food colouring, 1 mashed spud coloured red, 1
green, 1 yellow, 1 blue, and 1 black.

Everybody happy now?? Can I eat my dinner in peace?.





LOL! ur so right on the button Tim.

Me, I don't know if I eat 5 a day as the Thought Police recommend. I
just eat seasonally from my allotment. So some days, yeah , I'm stuffed
with spuds, runners, sweetcorn and courgettes. Other days, maybe just
a bit of cabbage. But I do like meat but cant grow a cow or pig or lamb.

Went to a veggie restaurant recently with a mate, ordered my meal but
wanted a side plate of steak!! They were not amused!!

But I do drink 5 pints a day!! So I'm getting the benefit from all that
barley and hops!! I also practice beer-rotation: as new brews come
into my bar each fortnight, I switch. It's like crop rotation. Oh, and
maybe often I have a bottle of wine in the evening to provide the grape
juice; they say it is good for the heart. And I love gin, so then I'm
also getting the benefit of the juniper berries as well.

So Tim, I reckon we should eat n drink a whole lot of different foods.

So, grow what you love; eat what you grow.


Cheers,
Ed

Hi Ed,
A kindred spirit, speaking of which, mines a navy rum.
Here's an idea, feed all the veg scraps and weeds to a rabbit,
make lots of manure to grow more veg, and best of all -
EAT THE RABBIT.
You know how it goes ;- Watership Down, you've read the book,
seen the film, now try the pie.
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Ah, but we are supposed to eat 5 veg a day.
O.K., so I'll mash 5 spuds.
But they now say the veg have to be different colours !!.
I got that sorted too, food colouring, 1 mashed spud coloured red, 1 green, 1 yellow, 1 blue, and 1 black.

Everybody happy now?? Can I eat my dinner in peace?.
No. Although it is plainly vegetable matter, potato doesn't count towards your 5 veg a day. I bet you aren't surprised to learn that sugar doesn't count either, even though its vegetable too. Nor bread nor breakfast cereal nor rice nor pasta, all made from vegerable matter. They all count as carbohydrate, not vegetable, for the present purposes.

At the end of the day it is advice, not something you have to do if you don't want to. If you want an unhealthy diet, that's up to you. Some people do live long on an unhealthy diet. Like Eubie Blake, a chain-smoking jazz musician who reputedly drank nothing but whisky, and who said on his 100th birthday, "If I'd known I was going to live so long, I'd have looked after myself better, dad." But statistically, he is an unusual case.
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No. Although it is plainly vegetable matter, potato doesn't count towards your 5 veg a day. I bet you aren't surprised to learn that sugar doesn't count either, even though its vegetable too. Nor bread nor breakfast cereal nor rice nor pasta, all made from vegerable matter. They all count as carbohydrate, not vegetable, for the present purposes.

At the end of the day it is advice, not something you have to do if you don't want to. If you want an unhealthy diet, that's up to you. Some people do live long on an unhealthy diet. Like Eubie Blake, a chain-smoking jazz musician who reputedly drank nothing but whisky, and who said on his 100th birthday, "If I'd known I was going to live so long, I'd have looked after myself better, dad." But statistically, he is an unusual case.
O.K., thanks for the amusing exchange, although I do feel it rather missed
the point I was making, ie- What is a natural diet.
It's like the ads for dog food that include carrot, sweetcorn and apple.
Said to be 'Better by nature', but I cannot recall ever seeing a pack of wolves stalking a carrot field, or African hunting dogs chasing a corn on the cob.
Yes, I love all fruit and most veg, but that was not my point.

This thread has probably gone on long enough, and I think we will have to agree to differ, but there is a danger in blindly accepting as gospel everything the latest trendy 'expert' says. Please, don't abandon your own common sense.
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O.K., thanks for the amusing exchange, although I do feel it rather
missed
the point I was making, ie- What is a natural diet.
It's like the ads for dog food that include carrot, sweetcorn and
apple.
Said to be 'Better by nature', but I cannot recall ever seeing a pack
of wolves stalking a carrot field, or African hunting dogs chasing a
corn on the cob.
Yes, I love all fruit and most veg, but that was not my point.


Our dog (of many moons ago) used to go out into the garden and eat
apples amd pears. If there were any leftovers on people's plates (and
that was seldom) she would wolf the lot, veg -carrots - and all.

I don't ever remember any sweetcorn being left, but I know which way it
would have gone, and how fast...

This thread has probably gone on long enough, and I think we will have
to agree to differ, but there is a danger in blindly accepting as
gospel everything the latest trendy 'expert' says. Please, don't
abandon your own common sense.


Oh yes. It isn't as if they all sing from the same songsheet, and they
keep changing the words every few years.

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or African hunting dogs chasing a
corn on the cob.


Actually corn on the cob is quite dangerous for dogs as the core can get
stuck in the digestive system. I knew at least 2 dogs who have had to
have surgery for a blockage due to cobs!

I do know that some 'experts' (I use the word advisedly) argue that dogs
go for the stomachs of animals first where there will be half digested
plant material but then my dogs eat raw meat anyway.

Wouldn't give up my bacon sandwiches for anything. Come the revolution
and money means nothing perhaps we WILL be able to grow our own
cows/pigs by bartering our 'better than shop bought' vegetables

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We are bombarded with advice from self-appointed experts on the subject of what we should eat.
Disregarding the fact that our eyes both face forwards, indicating a predator,
or the fact that we have a carnivores dentition and digestive system, or the fact that we behave like predators (how many wars have there been?), we are told we must eat veg.
O.K., I confess I like mash with my bangers.
Ah, but we are supposed to eat 5 veg a day.
O.K., so I'll mash 5 spuds.
But they now say the veg have to be different colours !!.
I got that sorted too, food colouring, 1 mashed spud coloured red, 1 green, 1 yellow, 1 blue, and 1 black.

Everybody happy now?? Can I eat my dinner in peace?.
My philosophy is eat what the hell you like just don't do it to excess
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:43:03 +0100, Tim Perry wrote:


We are bombarded with advice from self-appointed experts on the subject
of what we should eat.
Disregarding the fact that our eyes both face forwards, indicating a
predator,


Yep - cursive hunter if I remember correctly. More predator than prey, in
most cases. However even all out predators are prey at times - hunted by
other predators. Just on balance they hunt more than they are hunted.

or the fact that we have a carnivores dentition and digestive

system,

Nope - we have an omnivore's dentition and digestive tract.
That means we have grinding teeth for vegetables as well as incisors and
canines for the meat course.
We don't have the elaborate digestive tract that herbivores such as
ruminants have, to allow them to get the maximum food value out of grass,
but we do have a long enough gut to allow us to process some goodness out
of vegetables.
One of the reasons that we have been so successful as a species is that
we can eat almost anything and are therefore not tied to a specific
habitat.
The classic 'predator/prey relationship' shows how a predator is very much
tied to the prey population.
We eat predators, their prey, and most of the prey's foodstuffs as well.
We also eat each other, although that is not always considered polite
these days.
So go for a truly balanced diet - a bit of everything!

I seem to think that dogs and cats are a good example - dogs will eat
anything, and can survive quite happily on a vegetarian diet. Cats, on the
other hand, need a diet which is mainly protein (although they sometimes
go and catch it themselves). Dogs are still, however, considered a
predator species.

or the fact that we behave like predators (how many wars

have there
been?),


Behave like predators?
Well, the life of a lion seems pretty good - laze around all day while the
wives go out hunting. :-)

we are told we must eat veg.
O.K., I confess I like mash with my bangers. Ah, but we are supposed to
eat 5 veg a day. O.K., so I'll mash 5 spuds. But they now say the veg
have to be different colours !!. I got that sorted too, food colouring,
1 mashed spud coloured red, 1 green, 1 yellow, 1 blue, and 1 black.

Everybody happy now?? Can I eat my dinner in peace?.


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We also eat each other, although that is not always considered polite
these days.
So go for a truly balanced diet - a bit of everything!


I'll pass on the plate of fellow gardener thank you David


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We also eat each other, although that is not always considered polite
these days.
So go for a truly balanced diet - a bit of everything!


I'll pass on the plate of fellow gardener thank you David


What will you pass on it?

D&RFC

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I'll pass on the plate of fellow gardener thank you David


What will you pass on it?

D&RFC



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