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Kate Morgan 17-09-2008 12:50 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many many
years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg but is thinking that
he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying creatures into his poly
tunnels, there seems to be a shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over there
too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the best
seeds to send.

kate


Sacha[_3_] 17-09-2008 01:23 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
On 17/9/08 12:50, in article
net, "Kate Morgan"
wrote:

An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many many
years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg but is thinking that
he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying creatures into his poly
tunnels, there seems to be a shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over there
too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the best
seeds to send.

kate


Eupatorium, Cimicifuga, Lavender, Bergenia. There was a discussion here
about bee-attracting plants the other day and I posted a link to a helpful
site but it does say European so I don't know how helpful that will be to
him or to you.
http://www.bumblebee.org/flowerlist.htm
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Mary Fisher 17-09-2008 03:59 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 

"Kate Morgan" wrote in message
et...
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many many
years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg but is thinking
that he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying creatures into his
poly tunnels, there seems to be a shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over
there too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the best
seeds to send.

kate


That surprises me, New Zealand has a huge number of beekeepers (and thus
bees) per capita.

Butterflies don't pollinate vegetables as far as I know - but I could be
wrong!

Mary



Stewart Robert Hinsley 17-09-2008 05:07 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
In message , Kate
Morgan writes
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many
many years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg but is
thinking that he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying
creatures into his poly tunnels, there seems to be a shortage of bees
butterfly's etc..over there too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the
best seeds to send.

kate


You want to check New Zealand's phytosanitary regulations. They're
probably not as draconian as Australia's, but I suspect that they're
fairly rigorous.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

~misfit~ 18-09-2008 12:39 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Stewart Robert Hinsley" typed:
In message , Kate
Morgan writes
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many
many years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg but is
thinking that he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying
creatures into his poly tunnels, there seems to be a shortage of bees
butterfly's etc..over there too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the
best seeds to send.


You want to check New Zealand's phytosanitary regulations. They're
probably not as draconian as Australia's, but I suspect that they're
fairly rigorous.


I'm in New Zealand waves and the biosecurity is *very* strict. There are
extremely harsh penalties handed out for anyone attempting to import seeds
or plant material illegally. If I were you Kate I'd make free with
suggestions rather than actual seeds. Or, you could buy some from he

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living...0375-2359-.htm

and have them delivered to his address. I've bought quite a few seeds from
there myself.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)



~misfit~ 18-09-2008 01:07 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
Somewhere on teh intarweb "~misfit~" typed:
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Stewart Robert Hinsley" typed:
In message , Kate
Morgan writes
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many
many years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg
but is thinking that he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying
creatures into his poly tunnels, there seems to be a
shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over there too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the
best seeds to send.


You want to check New Zealand's phytosanitary regulations. They're
probably not as draconian as Australia's, but I suspect that they're
fairly rigorous.


I'm in New Zealand waves and the biosecurity is *very* strict.
There are extremely harsh penalties handed out for anyone attempting
to import seeds or plant material illegally. If I were you Kate I'd
make free with suggestions rather than actual seeds. Or, you could
buy some from he
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living...0375-2359-.htm

and have them delivered to his address. I've bought quite a few seeds
from there myself.


I've just realised that it's probably a pain to register etc. Sooooo...

If there's a couple varieties listed on Trademe of seeds you'd like to send
him and they don't cost and arm and a leg I'll buy them for you and have
them delivered to his address. (We can say they're from you... which they
will be, just via me. :-])

Maybe someone here could browse what's available there and advise you?

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)



Kate Morgan 18-09-2008 09:27 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many
many years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg
but is thinking that he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying
creatures into his poly tunnels, there seems to be a
shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over there too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the
best seeds to send.

You want to check New Zealand's phytosanitary regulations. They're
probably not as draconian as Australia's, but I suspect that they're
fairly rigorous.


I'm in New Zealand waves and the biosecurity is *very* strict.
There are extremely harsh penalties handed out for anyone attempting
to import seeds or plant material illegally. If I were you Kate I'd
make free with suggestions rather than actual seeds. Or, you could
buy some from he
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living...0375-2359-.htm

and have them delivered to his address. I've bought quite a few seeds
from there myself.


I've just realised that it's probably a pain to register etc. Sooooo...

If there's a couple varieties listed on Trademe of seeds you'd like to
send him and they don't cost and arm and a leg I'll buy them for you and
have them delivered to his address. (We can say they're from you... which
they will be, just via me. :-])

Maybe someone here could browse what's available there and advise you?

Cheers,
--
Shaun.


hello Shaun - waves back - that is very kind of you. I will certainly do
some thinking about what to send him and contact you as and when :-)

kate


~misfit~ 18-09-2008 11:48 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Kate Morgan" typed:
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island )
many many years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg
but is thinking that he needs to grow some flowers to attract
flying creatures into his poly tunnels, there seems to be a
shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over there too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to
the best seeds to send.

You want to check New Zealand's phytosanitary regulations. They're
probably not as draconian as Australia's, but I suspect that
they're fairly rigorous.

I'm in New Zealand waves and the biosecurity is *very* strict.
There are extremely harsh penalties handed out for anyone attempting
to import seeds or plant material illegally. If I were you Kate I'd
make free with suggestions rather than actual seeds. Or, you could
buy some from he
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living...0375-2359-.htm

and have them delivered to his address. I've bought quite a few
seeds from there myself.


I've just realised that it's probably a pain to register etc.
Sooooo... If there's a couple varieties listed on Trademe of seeds you'd
like
to send him and they don't cost and arm and a leg I'll buy them for
you and have them delivered to his address. (We can say they're from
you... which they will be, just via me. :-])

Maybe someone here could browse what's available there and advise
you?


hello Shaun - waves back - that is very kind of you. I will certainly
do some thinking about what to send him and contact you as and when
:-)


Hello Kate.

You're welcome. I can be reached on misfitnz at gmail dot com (mention URG
in the subject please and ping me here, stuff gets put in the spam folder
now and then...) if you see some seeds that you'd like sent to him. Just
give me the auction numbers and his address and (as long as it doesn't break
the bank) consider it done.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)



Christina Websell 19-09-2008 10:57 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 

"~misfit~" wrote in message
...
Somewhere on teh intarweb "~misfit~" typed:
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Stewart Robert Hinsley" typed:
In message , Kate
Morgan writes
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many
many years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg
but is thinking that he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying
creatures into his poly tunnels, there seems to be a
shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over there too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the
best seeds to send.

You want to check New Zealand's phytosanitary regulations. They're
probably not as draconian as Australia's, but I suspect that they're
fairly rigorous.


I'm in New Zealand waves and the biosecurity is *very* strict.
There are extremely harsh penalties handed out for anyone attempting
to import seeds or plant material illegally.


Some years ago now I sent some nigella seeds to my friend in Australia, as a
friendly gesture so she could have love-in-a-mist in her garden.
She blasted me about how it was not allowed. I had no idea it wasn't. She
never planted them.
What would be the possibility of these seeds I sent being a danger in
Australia? What the **** would happen? It's an annual. It's not
likely to threaten Australia, is it?







~misfit~ 20-09-2008 02:54 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
Somewhere on teh intarwebs "Christina Websell" typed:
"~misfit~" wrote in message
...
Somewhere on teh intarweb "~misfit~" typed:
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Stewart Robert Hinsley" typed:
In message , Kate
Morgan writes
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island )
many many years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg
but is thinking that he needs to grow some flowers to attract
flying creatures into his poly tunnels, there seems to be a
shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over there too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to
the best seeds to send.

You want to check New Zealand's phytosanitary regulations. They're
probably not as draconian as Australia's, but I suspect that
they're fairly rigorous.

I'm in New Zealand waves and the biosecurity is *very* strict.
There are extremely harsh penalties handed out for anyone attempting
to import seeds or plant material illegally.


Some years ago now I sent some nigella seeds to my friend in
Australia, as a friendly gesture so she could have love-in-a-mist in
her garden. She blasted me about how it was not allowed. I had no idea it
wasn't. She never planted them.
What would be the possibility of these seeds I sent being a danger in
Australia? What the **** would happen? It's an annual. It's not
likely to threaten Australia, is it?


Probably not, no. (Being an annual down't make much difference though. Some
plants are annuals in certian climates and perrenial in other climates.)

Then again, some species of plant in new environments can go crazy and
out-compete native plants. There are a lot of landowners here who spend a
lot of money trying to keep gorse, ragwort, thistle etc. under control. Even
buddleia is a noxious plant here as it grows like crazy.

I guess the folks at border control would just like a bit of a say in what
gets into the country. It's hard to undo mistakes, easier to ensure that no
more happen.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)



Rusty Hinge 2 25-09-2008 10:17 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
The message
from "Kate Morgan" contains these words:

An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many many
years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg but is thinking that
he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying creatures into his poly
tunnels, there seems to be a shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over there
too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the best
seeds to send.


Flowering currants start early. Bees like beans of all the sorts I've
observed. The fodder beans grown for cattle have a tremendous scent, and
you can sometimes smell a field of them from a mile. I would *GUESS*
that broad beans were similar, being very closely related.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

Rusty Hinge 2 25-09-2008 10:21 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 
The message
from "Christina Websell" contains
these words:

Some years ago now I sent some nigella seeds to my friend in
Australia, as a
friendly gesture so she could have love-in-a-mist in her garden.
She blasted me about how it was not allowed. I had no idea it wasn't. She
never planted them.
What would be the possibility of these seeds I sent being a danger in
Australia? What the **** would happen? It's an annual. It's not
likely to threaten Australia, is it?


Diseases might be introduced. Read up on cane toads and rabbits. They're
not plants, true, but were introduced with the best intentions...

Look at Japanese knotweed here, and Oxford ragwort...

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

Nick Maclaren 25-09-2008 11:22 PM

Ideas for a gift of seeds wanted
 

In article ,
Rusty Hinge 2 writes:
| The message
| from "Christina Websell" contains
| these words:
|
| Some years ago now I sent some nigella seeds to my friend in
| Australia, as a
| friendly gesture so she could have love-in-a-mist in her garden.
| She blasted me about how it was not allowed. I had no idea it wasn't. She
| never planted them.
| What would be the possibility of these seeds I sent being a danger in
| Australia? What the **** would happen? It's an annual. It's not
| likely to threaten Australia, is it?
|
| Diseases might be introduced. Read up on cane toads and rabbits. They're
| not plants, true, but were introduced with the best intentions...

Also annuals can cause ecological harm, just as much as perennials,
especially in arid ecologies. And Australia is well-known for those!

| Look at Japanese knotweed here, and Oxford ragwort...

There isn't a serious problem with Oxford ragwort in the UK, despite
the nonsense talked about it. It causes trouble only in mismanaged
pasture, even to notoriously dim and delicate horses. One of the most
common forms of that is, of course, having paddocks dedicated to horses
without managing the pasture by frequent mowing or otherwise.

But the UK has a MUCH more resilient ecology than Australia, because
almost all of its flora and fauna are recent.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

liketogarden 22-10-2008 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate Morgan (Post 816182)
An English friend who has lived in New Zealand ( south Island ) many many
years has just been to visit. He grows nothing but veg but is thinking that
he needs to grow some flowers to attract flying creatures into his poly
tunnels, there seems to be a shortage of bees butterfly's etc..over there
too,
I thought that I could send him some seed but need advice as to the best
seeds to send.

kate

Nasturtiums are really easy to grow, and the bees and hoverflies seem to love them.
Sweetpeas are nice in a sunny site.


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