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Rusty Hinge 2 18-10-2008 06:07 PM

Blackberry bushes
 
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Sensible suggestions please



Borrow a goat?


Please keep up at the back, there!

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[email protected] 19-10-2008 11:50 AM

Blackberry bushes
 
On 18 Oct, 18:07, Rusty Hinge 2
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Sensible suggestions please

Borrow a goat?


Please keep up at the back, there!

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I would like to thank you all, I think the problem may be due to
living near a nuclear plant I can see them in the dark and re the goat
well there is one really full goat. Digging commences today.

Amethyst Deceiver 21-10-2008 09:40 AM

Blackberry bushes
 
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Order corrected. Please don't top-post.

Rusty Hinge 2;819023 Wrote:
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I think you mean brambles, rather than blackberries. -

Same difference.


There IS a difference - brambles don't fruit, blackberries do, plus
brambles pop up all over the place if not dug out, whereas blackberries
seem to grow from a single main stem and can be trained and contained.


You seem to be alone in believing this distinction, Janet.

OED:
Bramble 1. A rough prickly shrub; spec. the blackberry-bush (Rubus
fruticosus).

Blackberry 1. The fruit of the bramble (Rubus fruticosus) and its
varieties.
2. The trailing shrub which bears this fruit; the bramble.
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Jim Ford 21-10-2008 08:46 PM

Blackberry bushes
 
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Posting at the top of an article because that is where your cursor
happened to be is like crapping in your pants because that is
where your arse happened to be.


Very droll!

I say it more politely:

A thread should read like a story. Stories don't read:

And they all lived happily ever after.
..
..
..
Once apon a time.


Jim

Janet Conroy 24-10-2008 07:47 PM

I wasn't trying to be pedantic. When I was an anklebiter I would go blackberrying and my mum would make bramble jelly with the fruit.
My point was that the wild brambles that come up in neglected gardens don't have fruit (or never in my experience). Perhaps someone will now reply about the bumper crop they've had!

iamthejohn 26-10-2008 12:59 AM

I really have nothing to add to this discussion except to say goats for the win. The king of our animals. There is a goat called bluebell at our local pub. Calling such a noble beast "bluebell" is a crime and I have often said so. Goats, i presume, do not care about names, another goat would merely be "goat who is this goat"

They have much more important issues to mull over. :D

Pam Moore 26-10-2008 08:55 AM

Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
 
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:35:39 +0100, iamthejohn
sirdieselREMOVEMETOMAIL@hotm***dotcom wrote:


Hi all, I'm new here - guess my post count'll say 1.. lol :D

So i'm from south yorkshire, and am just discovering some interest in
gardening at age 26.. find it therapeutic, enjoy it, and can see a lot
of practical uses.

So i want to grow some basic veg like cherry tomatoes, peas, and spuds
out in the garden, grew the first two in my youth, have figured out the
spud technique. Grew some basil on the windowsill last year - my
greenfingered family members say basil is a right mare to grow and that
they never managed it.. So i planted half a pack of seeds and ended up
with FORTY basil plants spread about the house LOL.

There's some nice plants out in the garden like a huge poppy, a couple
of teasels that grow nice, and something my mum called kiria *shrug*
that have been in there since we moved in

But there's nothing really nice or strong smelling out there.. I'd like
to grow some nice smelling plants next season (nothing illegal, lol) -
sometimes i walk past other people's gardens and have to stop and sniff
for a few seconds.. so so nice. Some display plants, and some that
produce crops i can use for stuff..

Does anyone have any suggestions? She who must be obeyed loves lavender
so i'm going to try some of that.. Am a bit of a newb so nothing
difficult to grow.. and suggestions of possible uses?


May I suggest you get a sarcococca.
It is commonly known as Christmas Box, because it looks a bit like box
(buxux) and flowers just after Christmas. I have a well established
one. It is not fast growing, makes a clump about 3 feet high and
smells wonderful on a winter day. Put it somewhere you walk past,
like the path to the front door.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening...05/ggrow05.xml

Pam in Bristol

Sacha[_3_] 26-10-2008 10:08 AM

Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
 
On 25/10/08 23:35, in article ,
"iamthejohn" sirdieselREMOVEMETOMAIL@hotm***dotcom wrote:


Hi all, I'm new here - guess my post count'll say 1.. lol :D

So i'm from south yorkshire, and am just discovering some interest in
gardening at age 26.. find it therapeutic, enjoy it, and can see a lot
of practical uses.

So i want to grow some basic veg like cherry tomatoes, peas, and spuds
out in the garden, grew the first two in my youth, have figured out the
spud technique. Grew some basil on the windowsill last year - my
greenfingered family members say basil is a right mare to grow and that
they never managed it.. So i planted half a pack of seeds and ended up
with FORTY basil plants spread about the house LOL.

There's some nice plants out in the garden like a huge poppy, a couple
of teasels that grow nice, and something my mum called kiria *shrug*
that have been in there since we moved in

But there's nothing really nice or strong smelling out there.. I'd like
to grow some nice smelling plants next season (nothing illegal, lol) -
sometimes i walk past other people's gardens and have to stop and sniff
for a few seconds.. so so nice. Some display plants, and some that
produce crops i can use for stuff..

Does anyone have any suggestions? She who must be obeyed loves lavender
so i'm going to try some of that.. Am a bit of a newb so nothing
difficult to grow.. and suggestions of possible uses?

many thanks folks
AJ

Some of the strongest smelling plants seem to be winter flowering. As Pam
says, Sarcococca is a gem from that pov, and so is Eleagnus ebbingei, which
flowers in autumn but that doesn't like cold winds. Lonicera purpusii is a
scented shrubby honeysuckle that flowers in winter and Lonicera Belgica is
one of the climbing honeysuckles that has a wonderful scent in late
spring/early summer. Plant that on supports outside a window and let the
smell drift into the house.

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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Paul Luton[_2_] 26-10-2008 10:27 AM

Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
 
iamthejohn wrote:


But there's nothing really nice or strong smelling out there.. I'd like
to grow some nice smelling plants next season (nothing illegal, lol) -
sometimes i walk past other people's gardens and have to stop and sniff
for a few seconds.. so so nice.

Daphne Odora Aureamarginata for spring. Viburnum Fareri (fragrans) for now.

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Sacha[_3_] 26-10-2008 10:33 AM

Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
 
On 26/10/08 10:27, in article
, "Paul Luton"
wrote:

iamthejohn wrote:


But there's nothing really nice or strong smelling out there.. I'd like
to grow some nice smelling plants next season (nothing illegal, lol) -
sometimes i walk past other people's gardens and have to stop and sniff
for a few seconds.. so so nice.

Daphne Odora Aureamarginata for spring. Viburnum Fareri (fragrans) for now.


Hamamelis mollis is another good winter scent. IMO, the species has the
best perfume but others may think otherwise.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Pam Moore 26-10-2008 11:28 AM

Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
 
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:55:20 +0000, Pam Moore
wrote:

It is commonly known as Christmas Box, because it looks a bit like box
(buxux) and flowers just after Christmas.


Have seen my spelling mistake; buxus, not buxux.

For a summer hanging basket the surfinia "blue vein" is scented and
many callers at my door have noticed it.

A late summer flowering bulb is what I still call Acidanthera but
which is now known as gladiolus calianthus. It is just finishing now
but the flowers have a lovely scent.

If you have plenty of room for a spreading climber, plant clematis
armandii. It also flowers in winter/spring and is scented.

How many acres of garden do you have?

Pam in Bristol

Pam Moore 26-10-2008 11:30 AM

Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
 
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:35:39 +0100, iamthejohn
sirdieselREMOVEMETOMAIL@hotm***dotcom wrote:

There's some nice plants out in the garden like a huge poppy, a couple
of teasels that grow nice, and something my mum called kiria *shrug*
that have been in there since we moved in


Could the keria be a shrub, not "shrug"?

Pam in Bristol

Sacha[_3_] 26-10-2008 12:51 PM

Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
 
On 26/10/08 11:28, in article ,
"Pam Moore" wrote:

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:55:20 +0000, Pam Moore
wrote:

It is commonly known as Christmas Box, because it looks a bit like box
(buxux) and flowers just after Christmas.


Have seen my spelling mistake; buxus, not buxux.

For a summer hanging basket the surfinia "blue vein" is scented and
many callers at my door have noticed it.

A late summer flowering bulb is what I still call Acidanthera but
which is now known as gladiolus calianthus. It is just finishing now
but the flowers have a lovely scent.


Isn't it a bit tender, though? Will it survive winter in south Yorkshire?
How do Camellias do 'up there'? I understand C. williamsii are the hardiest
varieties but am not sure if any of those are scented as some C. sasanquas
are.
And I meant to say to the OP that he should be sure to plant the lavender in
a sunny well-drained place. I made the big mistake of planting some in a
bed that held onto too much moisture and the lavender hated it. When I
transplanted it all into a low wall, it took off like a space rocket!
And I suggest that the kiria is a Kerria japonica - spreads like a weed and
once you've got it, you've got it for life!

If you have plenty of room for a spreading climber, plant clematis
armandii. It also flowers in winter/spring and is scented.

How many acres of garden do you have?

Pam in Bristol


However many it is, there won't be much room left soon. ;-)

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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Pam Moore 26-10-2008 01:53 PM

Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
 
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:51:33 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:55:20 +0000, Pam Moore
wrote:


A late summer flowering bulb is what I still call Acidanthera but
which is now known as gladiolus calianthus. It is just finishing now
but the flowers have a lovely scent.


Isn't it a bit tender, though? Will it survive winter in south Yorkshire?


I should have said that I grow Acidanthera in pots and protect them
overwinter.

Pam in Bristol

Rusty_Hinge 26-10-2008 06:37 PM

Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
 
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:35:39 +0100, iamthejohn
sirdieselREMOVEMETOMAIL@hotm***dotcom wrote:


There's some nice plants out in the garden like a huge poppy, a couple
of teasels that grow nice, and something my mum called kiria *shrug*
that have been in there since we moved in


Could the keria be a shrub, not "shrug"?


Probably bought en France, n'est ce pas?

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