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I need some advice can someone tell me how to get rid of these bushes
they just seem to come back apart from using a flame thrower and it's moving up the list, is there something less dangerous? |
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wrote in message ... I need some advice can someone tell me how to get rid of these bushes they just seem to come back apart from using a flame thrower and it's moving up the list, is there something less dangerous? A goat. |
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On 11 Oct, 14:22, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
wrote in message ... I need some advice can someone tell me how to get rid of these bushes they just seem to come back apart from using a flame thrower and it's moving up the list, is there something less dangerous? A goat. Sensible suggestions please |
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In article ,
wrote: On 11 Oct, 14:22, "Mary Fisher" wrote: wrote in message ... I need some advice can someone tell me how to get rid of these bushes they just seem to come back apart from using a flame thrower and it's moving up the list, is there something less dangerous? A goat. Sensible suggestions please It was. Blackberries are dead easy to dig up, and most subspecies don't regrow from their roots. One swipe with a grub-axe or spade is all that is needed, but is tedious if there are a lot of them. Cutting off their tops or using a flame-thrower won't help. But the easiest way to remove a large area is to cut it down to the ground, and pasture goats there. They will make short work of the new shoots, and the blackberries will die within a year or so. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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wrote in message ... On 11 Oct, 14:22, "Mary Fisher" wrote: wrote in message ... I need some advice can someone tell me how to get rid of these bushes they just seem to come back apart from using a flame thrower and it's moving up the list, is there something less dangerous? A goat. Sensible suggestions please It was the answer to a huge overgrown jungle of a daughter's. It was a very sensible answer. Mary |
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On 11 Oct, 17:41, Sacha wrote:
On 11/10/08 14:37, in article , " wrote: On 11 Oct, 14:22, "Mary Fisher" wrote: wrote in message .... I need some advice can someone tell me how to get rid of these bushes they just seem to come back apart from using a flame thrower and it's moving up the list, is there something less dangerous? A goat. Sensible suggestions please If you can borrow one from somewhere, it really is a sensible answer. *It might be possible to find someone who would be happy to tether a goat in your garden for a while but make sure it can't get near anything you don't want eaten. -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. |
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On 11/10/08 17:47, in article
, " wrote: On 11 Oct, 17:41, Sacha wrote: On 11/10/08 14:37, in article , " wrote: On 11 Oct, 14:22, "Mary Fisher" wrote: wrote in message ... I need some advice can someone tell me how to get rid of these bushes they just seem to come back apart from using a flame thrower and it's moving up the list, is there something less dangerous? A goat. Sensible suggestions please If you can borrow one from somewhere, it really is a sensible answer. *It might be possible to find someone who would be happy to tether a goat in your garden for a while but make sure it can't get near anything you don't want eaten. -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. LoL. The last thing we'd welcome on a Nursery is a goat - or not a free range one! Dig, dig and dig again is your answer or use a really tough spray which will kill everything within range over and over again. Really, cut them back as best you can and dig out as much as you can and keep doing it. They root where the tips bend over into the ground, which is why they're such a pain to deal with and so prolific. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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wrote in message news:d7ed352f-6851-4580-abe6- .... As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. If you're not into gardening why are you worried about brambles? Mary |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
wrote in message news:d7ed352f-6851-4580-abe6- ... As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. If you're not into gardening why are you worried about brambles? Mary And blackberries are just about the most delicious things you can grow in a garden |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: wrote in message news:d7ed352f-6851-4580-abe6- .... As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. If you're not into gardening why are you worried about brambles? Perhaps the back door is becoming difficult to open? -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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On 11/10/08 19:22, in article
, "Mary Fisher" wrote: wrote in message news:d7ed352f-6851-4580-abe6- ... As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. If you're not into gardening why are you worried about brambles? Mary I suppose there's a difference between not being into gardening and not wanting yourself or your children torn to shreds when they go to the washing line/sandpit/trampoline. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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"stuart noble" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: wrote in message news:d7ed352f-6851-4580-abe6- ... As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. If you're not into gardening why are you worried about brambles? Mary And blackberries are just about the most delicious things you can grow in a garden Wonderful berries, wonderful jam and jelly, wonderful wine, pretty flowers full of nectar for the bees and the canes are perfect for binding straw in lipwork. Mary |
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wrote in message ... On 11 Oct, 19:22, "Mary Fisher" wrote: wrote in message news:d7ed352f-6851-4580-abe6- ... As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. If you're not into gardening why are you worried about brambles? Mary Well where I have moved to the garden is covered with them, I am one of those sort of gardeners as and when once I've sorted out the garden I will keep it like it. All other gardens I've had I have been lucky the previous tenant looked after the garden where I am now lovely location shame about the garden, perhaps if you are free have some time on your hands call round and do it for me. The idea of a gardener with time on his/her hands is an oxymoron. Mary |
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On 11 Oct, 19:22, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
wrote in message news:d7ed352f-6851-4580-abe6- ... As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. If you're not into gardening why are you worried about brambles? Mary Well where I have moved to the garden is covered with them, I am one of those sort of gardeners as and when once I've sorted out the garden I will keep it like it. All other gardens I've had I have been lucky the previous tenant looked after the garden where I am now lovely location shame about the garden, perhaps if you are free have some time on your hands call round and do it for me. |
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On 12 Oct, 11:21, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
wrote in message ... On 11 Oct, 19:22, "Mary Fisher" wrote: wrote in message news:d7ed352f-6851-4580-abe6- ... As you are aware from my post I'm not really into gardening hince why I said what I did, I have cut them but want to flatten them into the ground I'm too far away for borrowing the goat though would love to take up your offer. If you're not into gardening why are you worried about brambles? Mary Well where I have moved to the garden is covered with them, I am one of those sort of gardeners as and when once I've sorted out the garden I will keep it like it. All other gardens I've had I have been lucky the previous tenant looked after the garden where I am now lovely location shame about the garden, perhaps if you are free have some time on your hands call round and do it for me. The idea of a gardener with time on his/her hands is an oxymoron. Mary- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well if you can read I said the sort of gardener I am never did say I was a gardener. |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Wonderful berries, wonderful jam and jelly, wonderful wine, pretty flowers full of nectar for the bees and the canes are perfect for binding straw in lipwork. Trust Mary to know about lipwork... D&RFC -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: The idea of a gardener with time on his/her hands is an oxymoron. Thyme, maybe. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
I think you mean brambles, rather than blackberries. The former are a sign of a neglected garden, the latter, usually with few thorns, are the domestic varieties, which aren't a patch on the wild ones. As with most unwanted plants, there is no substitute for hard labour. Most things can be dug out and will eventually give up the ghost if you are persistent. If you cut the top growth back to near ground level and then dig out the roots, any re-growth is quite easy to deal with.
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from Janet Conroy contains these words: I think you mean brambles, rather than blackberries. Same difference. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
There IS a difference - brambles don't fruit, blackberries do, plus brambles pop up all over the place if not dug out, whereas blackberries seem to grow from a single main stem and can be trained and contained.
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On 17/10/08 22:21, in article ,
"Janet Conroy" wrote: There IS a difference - brambles don't fruit, blackberries do, plus brambles pop up all over the place if not dug out, whereas blackberries seem to grow from a single main stem and can be trained and contained.Rusty Hinge 2;819023 Wrote: The message from Janet Conroy contains these words: - I think you mean brambles, rather than blackberries. - Same difference. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig How does this account for bramble jelly?! My mother used to make that every year. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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In article ,
says... On 17/10/08 22:21, in article , "Janet Conroy" wrote: There IS a difference - brambles don't fruit, blackberries do, plus brambles pop up all over the place if not dug out, whereas blackberries seem to grow from a single main stem and can be trained and contained.Rusty Hinge 2;819023 Wrote: The message from Janet Conroy contains these words: - I think you mean brambles, rather than blackberries. - Same difference. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig How does this account for bramble jelly?! My mother used to make that every year. I think not for the first time the english language is causing confussion. Brambles, Blackberries, Brimbles are all different names for the same plant (there are many more, often regional) but in common speach one would perhaps refer to a tangle of the stems as "Brambles" while a bowl of fruit "Blackberries" but as far as I know its all quite interchangable! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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On 18/10/08 12:59, in article
, "Charlie Pridham" wrote: In article , says... On 17/10/08 22:21, in article , "Janet Conroy" wrote: There IS a difference - brambles don't fruit, blackberries do, plus brambles pop up all over the place if not dug out, whereas blackberries seem to grow from a single main stem and can be trained and contained.Rusty Hinge 2;819023 Wrote: The message from Janet Conroy contains these words: - I think you mean brambles, rather than blackberries. - Same difference. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig How does this account for bramble jelly?! My mother used to make that every year. I think not for the first time the english language is causing confussion. Brambles, Blackberries, Brimbles are all different names for the same plant (there are many more, often regional) but in common speach one would perhaps refer to a tangle of the stems as "Brambles" while a bowl of fruit "Blackberries" but as far as I know its all quite interchangable! Thank you - and Martin - this is what I'd always thought but wondered if mother had been acting under an illusion all these years. ;-) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:37:07 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On 11 Oct, 14:22, "Mary Fisher" wrote: wrote in message ... I need some advice can someone tell me how to get rid of these bushes they just seem to come back apart from using a flame thrower and it's moving up the list, is there something less dangerous? A goat. Sensible suggestions please Borrow a goat? -- http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk |
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The message
from Janet Conroy contains these words: There IS a difference - brambles don't fruit, blackberries do, plus brambles pop up all over the place if not dug out, whereas blackberries seem to grow from a single main stem and can be trained and contained.Rusty Hinge 2;819023 Wrote: The message Please don't top-post. Brambles and blackberries are synonymous. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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from Martin contains these words: On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:06:09 +0100, Sacha wrote: How does this account for bramble jelly?! My mother used to make that every year. I'm glad you asked. Blackberries are the fruit of the bramble http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A7209623 brambles are the fruit of the bramble or the blackberry, just as sloes are the fruit of the sloe or the blackthorn - and probably many other local names thereof. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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The message
from Charlie Pridham contains these words: I think not for the first time the english language is causing confussion. Brambles, Blackberries, Brimbles are all different names for the same plant (there are many more, often regional) but in common speach one would perhaps refer to a tangle of the stems as "Brambles" while a bowl of fruit "Blackberries" but as far as I know its all quite interchangable! Since ye olden dayes when I was an anklebiter and before, the terms have been completely interchangeable for the fruit and for the bushes, however, while I'm not aware of any in this case, linguistic tradition can vary from area to area. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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Rusty Hinge 2 wrote: The message from Charlie Pridham contains these words: I think not for the first time the english language is causing confussion. Brambles, Blackberries, Brimbles are all different names for the same plant (there are many more, often regional) but in common speach one would perhaps refer to a tangle of the stems as "Brambles" while a bowl of fruit "Blackberries" but as far as I know its all quite interchangable! Since ye olden dayes when I was an anklebiter and before, the terms have been completely interchangeable for the fruit and for the bushes, however, while I'm not aware of any in this case, linguistic tradition can vary from area to area. This is such a case, but it tends to be that people use one term more than the other. I can't remember which areas follow Charlie's usage, but it is one of the more common. Few people misunderstand or care if someone else uses another convention. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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from mogga contains these words: Sensible suggestions please Borrow a goat? Please keep up at the back, there! -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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On 18 Oct, 18:07, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote: The message from mogga contains these words: Sensible suggestions please Borrow a goat? Please keep up at the back, there! -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig I would like to thank you all, I think the problem may be due to living near a nuclear plant I can see them in the dark and re the goat well there is one really full goat. Digging commences today. |
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In article ,
says... Order corrected. Please don't top-post. Rusty Hinge 2;819023 Wrote: The message from Janet Conroy contains these words: - I think you mean brambles, rather than blackberries. - Same difference. There IS a difference - brambles don't fruit, blackberries do, plus brambles pop up all over the place if not dug out, whereas blackberries seem to grow from a single main stem and can be trained and contained. You seem to be alone in believing this distinction, Janet. OED: Bramble 1. A rough prickly shrub; spec. the blackberry-bush (Rubus fruticosus). Blackberry 1. The fruit of the bramble (Rubus fruticosus) and its varieties. 2. The trailing shrub which bears this fruit; the bramble. -- Posting at the top of an article because that is where your cursor happened to be is like crapping in your pants because that is where your arse happened to be. |
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I wasn't trying to be pedantic. When I was an anklebiter I would go blackberrying and my mum would make bramble jelly with the fruit.
My point was that the wild brambles that come up in neglected gardens don't have fruit (or never in my experience). Perhaps someone will now reply about the bumper crop they've had! |
I really have nothing to add to this discussion except to say goats for the win. The king of our animals. There is a goat called bluebell at our local pub. Calling such a noble beast "bluebell" is a crime and I have often said so. Goats, i presume, do not care about names, another goat would merely be "goat who is this goat"
They have much more important issues to mull over. :D |
Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:35:39 +0100, iamthejohn
sirdieselREMOVEMETOMAIL@hotm***dotcom wrote: Hi all, I'm new here - guess my post count'll say 1.. lol :D So i'm from south yorkshire, and am just discovering some interest in gardening at age 26.. find it therapeutic, enjoy it, and can see a lot of practical uses. So i want to grow some basic veg like cherry tomatoes, peas, and spuds out in the garden, grew the first two in my youth, have figured out the spud technique. Grew some basil on the windowsill last year - my greenfingered family members say basil is a right mare to grow and that they never managed it.. So i planted half a pack of seeds and ended up with FORTY basil plants spread about the house LOL. There's some nice plants out in the garden like a huge poppy, a couple of teasels that grow nice, and something my mum called kiria *shrug* that have been in there since we moved in But there's nothing really nice or strong smelling out there.. I'd like to grow some nice smelling plants next season (nothing illegal, lol) - sometimes i walk past other people's gardens and have to stop and sniff for a few seconds.. so so nice. Some display plants, and some that produce crops i can use for stuff.. Does anyone have any suggestions? She who must be obeyed loves lavender so i'm going to try some of that.. Am a bit of a newb so nothing difficult to grow.. and suggestions of possible uses? May I suggest you get a sarcococca. It is commonly known as Christmas Box, because it looks a bit like box (buxux) and flowers just after Christmas. I have a well established one. It is not fast growing, makes a clump about 3 feet high and smells wonderful on a winter day. Put it somewhere you walk past, like the path to the front door. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening...05/ggrow05.xml Pam in Bristol |
Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
On 25/10/08 23:35, in article ,
"iamthejohn" sirdieselREMOVEMETOMAIL@hotm***dotcom wrote: Hi all, I'm new here - guess my post count'll say 1.. lol :D So i'm from south yorkshire, and am just discovering some interest in gardening at age 26.. find it therapeutic, enjoy it, and can see a lot of practical uses. So i want to grow some basic veg like cherry tomatoes, peas, and spuds out in the garden, grew the first two in my youth, have figured out the spud technique. Grew some basil on the windowsill last year - my greenfingered family members say basil is a right mare to grow and that they never managed it.. So i planted half a pack of seeds and ended up with FORTY basil plants spread about the house LOL. There's some nice plants out in the garden like a huge poppy, a couple of teasels that grow nice, and something my mum called kiria *shrug* that have been in there since we moved in But there's nothing really nice or strong smelling out there.. I'd like to grow some nice smelling plants next season (nothing illegal, lol) - sometimes i walk past other people's gardens and have to stop and sniff for a few seconds.. so so nice. Some display plants, and some that produce crops i can use for stuff.. Does anyone have any suggestions? She who must be obeyed loves lavender so i'm going to try some of that.. Am a bit of a newb so nothing difficult to grow.. and suggestions of possible uses? many thanks folks AJ Some of the strongest smelling plants seem to be winter flowering. As Pam says, Sarcococca is a gem from that pov, and so is Eleagnus ebbingei, which flowers in autumn but that doesn't like cold winds. Lonicera purpusii is a scented shrubby honeysuckle that flowers in winter and Lonicera Belgica is one of the climbing honeysuckles that has a wonderful scent in late spring/early summer. Plant that on supports outside a window and let the smell drift into the house. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
iamthejohn wrote:
But there's nothing really nice or strong smelling out there.. I'd like to grow some nice smelling plants next season (nothing illegal, lol) - sometimes i walk past other people's gardens and have to stop and sniff for a few seconds.. so so nice. Daphne Odora Aureamarginata for spring. Viburnum Fareri (fragrans) for now. -- CTC Right to Ride Rep. for Richmond upon Thames |
Newb, wants help picking some delightful smells
On 26/10/08 10:27, in article
, "Paul Luton" wrote: iamthejohn wrote: But there's nothing really nice or strong smelling out there.. I'd like to grow some nice smelling plants next season (nothing illegal, lol) - sometimes i walk past other people's gardens and have to stop and sniff for a few seconds.. so so nice. Daphne Odora Aureamarginata for spring. Viburnum Fareri (fragrans) for now. Hamamelis mollis is another good winter scent. IMO, the species has the best perfume but others may think otherwise. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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