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Question for taxonomists
We've heard that Aristea major is now Aristea capitata. Can anyone who
knows about these things confirm that with any certainty? TIA -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
Question for taxonomists
In message , Sacha
writes We've heard that Aristea major is now Aristea capitata. Can anyone who knows about these things confirm that with any certainty? TIA Google is your friend. (Though in this case it helps to know that much of Novon is available at Botanicus.) http://www.botanicus.org/page/642768 http://www.aluka.org/action/showComp...5555/AL.AP.COM PILATION.PLANT-NAME-SPECIES.ARISTEA.CAPITATA&cookieSet=1 http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/aristeamajor.htm http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pb...ex.php/Aristea http://books.google.com/books?id=m4U...99-IA3&lpg=RA1 -PA599-IA3&dq=Aristea+major+capitata&source=web&ots=Rxnwr V3_Ay&sig=6rvG13 4ty7Pebg8H29Gw6cYkSzY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&re snum=13&ct=result#PRA1- PA599-IA3,M1 It appears that it has long been suspected that Aristea major was a junior synonym of Aristea capitata, but that there was some uncertainty over the true identity of the latter. The Novon paper cuts the Gordian knot by a restatement of the identity of Aristea capitata. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Question for taxonomists
In message , Sacha
writes On 11/10/08 15:42, in article lid, "Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote: In message , Sacha writes We've heard that Aristea major is now Aristea capitata. Can anyone who knows about these things confirm that with any certainty? TIA Google is your friend. (Though in this case it helps to know that much of Novon is available at Botanicus.) http://www.botanicus.org/page/642768 http://www.aluka.org/action/showComp...5555/AL.AP.COM PILATION.PLANT-NAME-SPECIES.ARISTEA.CAPITATA&cookieSet=1 http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/aristeamajor.htm http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pb...ex.php/Aristea http://books.google.com/books?id=m4U...99-IA3&lpg=RA1 -PA599-IA3&dq=Aristea+major+capitata&source=web&ots=Rxnwr V3_Ay&sig=6rvG13 4ty7Pebg8H29Gw6cYkSzY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&re snum=13&ct=result#PRA1- PA599-IA3,M1 It appears that it has long been suspected that Aristea major was a junior synonym of Aristea capitata, but that there was some uncertainty over the true identity of the latter. The Novon paper cuts the Gordian knot by a restatement of the identity of Aristea capitata. Thanks for this - I did Google on it but just got stockists of the bulbs or the few who have it as actual plants - two of us in the Plant Finder in which A. capitata doesn't figure! It's quite hard for us to know how to list this. Using Aristea capitata major as the search string hits the spot. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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On 11/10/08 20:43, in article lid, "Stewart
Robert Hinsley" wrote: In message , Sacha writes On 11/10/08 15:42, in article lid, "Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote: In message , Sacha writes We've heard that Aristea major is now Aristea capitata. Can anyone who knows about these things confirm that with any certainty? TIA Google is your friend. (Though in this case it helps to know that much of Novon is available at Botanicus.) http://www.botanicus.org/page/642768 http://www.aluka.org/action/showComp...5555/AL.AP.COM PILATION.PLANT-NAME-SPECIES.ARISTEA.CAPITATA&cookieSet=1 http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/aristeamajor.htm http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pb...ex.php/Aristea http://books.google.com/books?id=m4U...99-IA3&lpg=RA1 -PA599-IA3&dq=Aristea+major+capitata&source=web&ots=Rxnwr V3_Ay&sig=6rvG13 4ty7Pebg8H29Gw6cYkSzY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&re snum=13&ct=result#PRA1- PA599-IA3,M1 It appears that it has long been suspected that Aristea major was a junior synonym of Aristea capitata, but that there was some uncertainty over the true identity of the latter. The Novon paper cuts the Gordian knot by a restatement of the identity of Aristea capitata. Thanks for this - I did Google on it but just got stockists of the bulbs or the few who have it as actual plants - two of us in the Plant Finder in which A. capitata doesn't figure! It's quite hard for us to know how to list this. Using Aristea capitata major as the search string hits the spot. But queries we've had don't do that. We'll ponder on it. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
Question for taxonomists
Kew provides a check list of valid plant names and clearly shows A.
major to be a synonym of A. capitata despite the former name being the most frequently used. You might like to bookmark this: http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/home.do HTH |
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On 12/10/08 02:31, in article
, "Dave Poole" wrote: Kew provides a check list of valid plant names and clearly shows A. major to be a synonym of A. capitata despite the former name being the most frequently used. You might like to bookmark this: http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/home.do HTH Very useful and definitely bookmarked. I've forwarded it to the office computer, too! Many thanks. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
Question for taxonomists
On 12/10/08 18:29, in article ,
"Chris Hogg" wrote: On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:12:32 +0100, Sacha wrote: We've heard that Aristea major is now Aristea capitata. Not answering your question, but piggybacking it. My A. /capitata/major has rather washed-out dirty pink flowers, much to my disappointment. Can anyone suggest a reason? I blame the soil! Should be acid, but there are bonfire-sized pockets of all sorts of rubbish in this garden :-( Do they behave like hydrangeas (acid-blue, alkaline-pink)? Next year it's going to get a dose of sequestrine and/or iron sulphate to see if it makes any difference! Well, a bit like you not really answering my question, I'm not really answering yours! We have the blue Aristea but I've read of a pink one and found this link to it: http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/88749...eeds_Evergreen _Rhizomatous_Perennials_Sow_Autumn.html You could be sitting on a 'nice little earner'. ;-) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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On 13/10/08 18:10, in article ,
"Chris Hogg" wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:14:11 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 12/10/08 18:29, in article , "Chris Hogg" wrote: On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:12:32 +0100, Sacha wrote: We've heard that Aristea major is now Aristea capitata. Not answering your question, but piggybacking it. My A. /capitata/major has rather washed-out dirty pink flowers, much to my disappointment. Can anyone suggest a reason? I blame the soil! Should be acid, but there are bonfire-sized pockets of all sorts of rubbish in this garden :-( Do they behave like hydrangeas (acid-blue, alkaline-pink)? Next year it's going to get a dose of sequestrine and/or iron sulphate to see if it makes any difference! Well, a bit like you not really answering my question, I'm not really answering yours! We have the blue Aristea but I've read of a pink one and found this link to it: http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/88749...eeds_Evergreen _Rhizomatous_Perennials_Sow_Autumn.html You could be sitting on a 'nice little earner'. ;-) Thanks Sacha. I don't think mine's such a nice pink as the one pictured, but at least it confirms there are pink forms around. I got mine from Trevena X nursery, but I have two others grown from seed from elsewhere that haven't flowered yet. I'm hoping for a boy (IYSWIM!). I do indeed see what you mean! Trevena X have some really nice things - when did you get yours? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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On 14/10/08 18:16, in article ,
"Chris Hogg" wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:46:07 +0100, Sacha wrote: snip Well, a bit like you not really answering my question, I'm not really answering yours! We have the blue Aristea but I've read of a pink one and found this link to it: http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8874990/20_Aristea_major_pink_Seeds_Evergree n _Rhizomatous_Perennials_Sow_Autumn.html You could be sitting on a 'nice little earner'. ;-) Thanks Sacha. I don't think mine's such a nice pink as the one pictured, but at least it confirms there are pink forms around. I got mine from Trevena X nursery, but I have two others grown from seed from elsewhere that haven't flowered yet. I'm hoping for a boy (IYSWIM!). I do indeed see what you mean! Trevena X have some really nice things - when did you get yours? Can't really remember, but about four or five years ago. When it first showed pink, I hoped it was because it was its first flowering, but it's been pink ever since. We'll look out for that, thanks. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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