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Malcolm 21-10-2008 04:49 PM

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Could some kind person identify this plant for me, please?

It is growing outside on the island of Islay.

www.indaal.demon.co.uk/pictures/plant.html

A bit broke off a couple of months ago and we stuck it in a large pot
and it rooted and grew immediately.

--
Malcolm

Rusty Hinge 2 21-10-2008 06:01 PM

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from Malcolm contains these words:

Could some kind person identify this plant for me, please?


It is growing outside on the island of Islay.


www.indaal.demon.co.uk/pictures/plant.html


A bit broke off a couple of months ago and we stuck it in a large pot
and it rooted and grew immediately.


It would. It's a succulent of some sort, but not, I believe, native.

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Rusty
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Bob Hobden 21-10-2008 06:06 PM

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"Malcolm" wrote

Could some kind person identify this plant for me, please?

It is growing outside on the island of Islay.

www.indaal.demon.co.uk/pictures/plant.html

A bit broke off a couple of months ago and we stuck it in a large pot and
it rooted and grew immediately.


Looks like an Aonium to me. Yellow flowers?

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Regards
Bob Hobden




Sacha[_3_] 21-10-2008 06:12 PM

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On 21/10/08 16:49, in article , "Malcolm"
wrote:


Could some kind person identify this plant for me, please?

It is growing outside on the island of Islay.

www.indaal.demon.co.uk/pictures/plant.html

A bit broke off a couple of months ago and we stuck it in a large pot
and it rooted and grew immediately.


It's an Aeonium. They do root quite easily but are tender in much of UK so
keep yours indoors for the winter unless you live in one of those places! In
Scilly they seem to seed themselves all over the place and grow wild.
There are some interesting varieties, one being an almost black one called
'Zwartkop' but usually called 'Schwarzkopf'.
(My Godson and his wife had a holiday with their twins on Islay this summer
and are lyrical about it.)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Tom Withycombe 21-10-2008 06:30 PM

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In message , Sacha
writes
On 21/10/08 16:49, in article , "Malcolm"
wrote:


Could some kind person identify this plant for me, please?

It is growing outside on the island of Islay.

www.indaal.demon.co.uk/pictures/plant.html

A bit broke off a couple of months ago and we stuck it in a large pot
and it rooted and grew immediately.


It's an Aeonium. They do root quite easily but are tender in much of UK so
keep yours indoors for the winter unless you live in one of those places! In
Scilly they seem to seed themselves all over the place and grow wild.
There are some interesting varieties, one being an almost black one called
'Zwartkop' but usually called 'Schwarzkopf'.
(My Godson and his wife had a holiday with their twins on Islay this summer
and are lyrical about it.)


Glad you settled that. We also have a black/very dark one and I could
not recall its name. It saved me calling my wife who is visiting
relatives.

Also glad your Godson enjoyed Islay. I used often to spend school
holidays there when my home was in Argyll some decades ago. Also enjoyed
a wonderful week in May this year. Malcolm runs the Islay Wildlife
Centre in Port Charlotte .... and superbly comprehensive facility
appealing to all ages.

Thanks again!
--
Tom W.
Deepest Dorset

Rusty Hinge 2 21-10-2008 06:41 PM

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from Sacha contains these words:

It's an Aeonium. They do root quite easily but are tender in much of UK so
keep yours indoors for the winter unless you live in one of those places!


He does. Washed by the Gulf Stream, and not a million miles from Poolewe...

In
Scilly they seem to seed themselves all over the place and grow wild.
There are some interesting varieties, one being an almost black one called
'Zwartkop' but usually called 'Schwarzkopf'.
(My Godson and his wife had a holiday with their twins on Islay this summer
and are lyrical about it.)


I think 'Zwartkop' would be Dutch...

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Rusty
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Sacha[_3_] 21-10-2008 07:35 PM

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On 21/10/08 18:41, in article
, "Rusty Hinge 2"
wrote:

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

It's an Aeonium. They do root quite easily but are tender in much of UK so
keep yours indoors for the winter unless you live in one of those places!


He does. Washed by the Gulf Stream, and not a million miles from Poolewe...

In
Scilly they seem to seed themselves all over the place and grow wild.
There are some interesting varieties, one being an almost black one called
'Zwartkop' but usually called 'Schwarzkopf'.
(My Godson and his wife had a holiday with their twins on Islay this summer
and are lyrical about it.)


I think 'Zwartkop' would be Dutch...


It means the same thing - black head - but 'Zwartkop' is what is given in
the Plant Finder and I wondered if it could be Afrikaans. I have always
known it as 'Schwarzkopf', though.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Rusty Hinge 2 21-10-2008 10:10 PM

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The message
from Sacha contains these words:

It means the same thing - black head - but 'Zwartkop' is what is given in
the Plant Finder and I wondered if it could be Afrikaans. I have always
known it as 'Schwarzkopf', though.


Schwarzkopf is German.

Zwartkop is similar: kop is certainly an Africaans word, but much
Africaans is derived from Dutch, and I'd guess 'Zwart' is either Dutch,
or Africaans, or both.

I'll ask Richard Bos...

--
Rusty
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Rusty Hinge 2 22-10-2008 12:47 PM

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The message
from Tom Withycombe contains these words:

Also glad your Godson enjoyed Islay. I used often to spend school
holidays there when my home was in Argyll some decades ago. Also enjoyed
a wonderful week in May this year. Malcolm runs the Islay Wildlife
Centre in Port Charlotte .... and superbly comprehensive facility
appealing to all ages.


I have title to a square foot of Islay...

When I wrote (tongue in cheek, as usual) to ask if I had shooting
rights, the (Laphroaig) distillery did not deign to reply.

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Rusty
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Sacha[_3_] 22-10-2008 02:32 PM

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On 22/10/08 12:47, in article
, "Rusty Hinge 2"
wrote:

The message
from Tom Withycombe contains these words:

Also glad your Godson enjoyed Islay. I used often to spend school
holidays there when my home was in Argyll some decades ago. Also enjoyed
a wonderful week in May this year. Malcolm runs the Islay Wildlife
Centre in Port Charlotte .... and superbly comprehensive facility
appealing to all ages.


I have title to a square foot of Islay...

When I wrote (tongue in cheek, as usual) to ask if I had shooting
rights, the (Laphroaig) distillery did not deign to reply.



Clearly not a GSOH from *those* dour Scots! ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Broadback 22-10-2008 04:57 PM

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Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
The message
from Sacha contains these words:

It means the same thing - black head - but 'Zwartkop' is what is given in
the Plant Finder and I wondered if it could be Afrikaans. I have always
known it as 'Schwarzkopf', though.


Schwarzkopf is German.

Zwartkop is similar: kop is certainly an Africaans word, but much
Africaans is derived from Dutch, and I'd guess 'Zwart' is either Dutch,
or Africaans, or both.

I'll ask Richard Bos...

An aside here, it always makes me smile when I see the adverts for
'Schwarzkopf' ladies cosmetics, fancy using something called blackhead!

Rusty Hinge 2 22-10-2008 08:04 PM

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The message
from Rusty Hinge 2 contains these words:
The message
from Sacha contains these words:


It means the same thing - black head - but 'Zwartkop' is what is given in
the Plant Finder and I wondered if it could be Afrikaans. I have always
known it as 'Schwarzkopf', though.


Schwarzkopf is German.


Zwartkop is similar: kop is certainly an Africaans word, but much
Africaans is derived from Dutch, and I'd guess 'Zwart' is either Dutch,
or Africaans, or both.


I'll ask Richard Bos...


His reply is as follows:

As a nonce-word meaning "blackhead", could be Dutch. As a name for a
bird, same meaning, /Albione/ Blackcap, it _is_ Dutch. As a name for a
succulent I've never seen it, but a quick websearch does seem to show it
to be of African origin. All the same, it's a normally formed Dutch
word, and would immediately be understood by any Dutchman if used to
refer to a black succulent.

--
Rusty
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Sacha[_3_] 22-10-2008 08:47 PM

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On 22/10/08 20:04, in article
, "Rusty Hinge 2"
wrote:

The message
from Rusty Hinge 2 contains these words:
The message
from Sacha contains these words:


It means the same thing - black head - but 'Zwartkop' is what is given in
the Plant Finder and I wondered if it could be Afrikaans. I have always
known it as 'Schwarzkopf', though.


Schwarzkopf is German.


Zwartkop is similar: kop is certainly an Africaans word, but much
Africaans is derived from Dutch, and I'd guess 'Zwart' is either Dutch,
or Africaans, or both.


I'll ask Richard Bos...


His reply is as follows:

As a nonce-word meaning "blackhead", could be Dutch. As a name for a
bird, same meaning, /Albione/ Blackcap, it _is_ Dutch. As a name for a
succulent I've never seen it, but a quick websearch does seem to show it
to be of African origin. All the same, it's a normally formed Dutch
word, and would immediately be understood by any Dutchman if used to
refer to a black succulent.


So, it's African with dual nationality...... ;-))
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Rusty Hinge 2 23-10-2008 04:33 PM

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The message
from Sacha contains these words:
On 22/10/08 20:04, in article
, "Rusty Hinge 2"
wrote:
The message
from Rusty Hinge 2 contains these words:
The message
from Sacha contains these words:


It means the same thing - black head - but 'Zwartkop' is what is
given in
the Plant Finder and I wondered if it could be Afrikaans. I have always
known it as 'Schwarzkopf', though.


Schwarzkopf is German.


Zwartkop is similar: kop is certainly an Africaans word, but much
Africaans is derived from Dutch, and I'd guess 'Zwart' is either Dutch,
or Africaans, or both.


I'll ask Richard Bos...


His reply is as follows:

As a nonce-word meaning "blackhead", could be Dutch. As a name for a
bird, same meaning, /Albione/ Blackcap, it _is_ Dutch. As a name for a
succulent I've never seen it, but a quick websearch does seem to show it
to be of African origin. All the same, it's a normally formed Dutch
word, and would immediately be understood by any Dutchman if used to
refer to a black succulent.


So, it's African with dual nationality...... ;-))


Good job it wasn't a crucifer, or it might have had a dual cabbageway.

--
Rusty
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Sacha[_3_] 23-10-2008 05:36 PM

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On 23/10/08 16:33, in article
, "Rusty Hinge 2"
wrote:

The message
from Sacha contains these words:
On 22/10/08 20:04, in article
, "Rusty Hinge 2"
wrote:
The message
from Rusty Hinge 2 contains these words:
The message
from Sacha contains these words:

It means the same thing - black head - but 'Zwartkop' is what is
given in
the Plant Finder and I wondered if it could be Afrikaans. I have always
known it as 'Schwarzkopf', though.

Schwarzkopf is German.

Zwartkop is similar: kop is certainly an Africaans word, but much
Africaans is derived from Dutch, and I'd guess 'Zwart' is either Dutch,
or Africaans, or both.

I'll ask Richard Bos...

His reply is as follows:

As a nonce-word meaning "blackhead", could be Dutch. As a name for a
bird, same meaning, /Albione/ Blackcap, it _is_ Dutch. As a name for a
succulent I've never seen it, but a quick websearch does seem to show it
to be of African origin. All the same, it's a normally formed Dutch
word, and would immediately be understood by any Dutchman if used to
refer to a black succulent.


So, it's African with dual nationality...... ;-))


Good job it wasn't a crucifer, or it might have had a dual cabbageway.


Listen you, you're already responsible for what may hold the record for the
longest punning thread in the history of urg!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)



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