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Janet 27-10-2008 10:55 PM

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Help, from all of us on Demon. Since september we have been unable to
get on to this newsgroup via Demon servers. They are continously
unavailable to us and 'apparently' in the porcess of being fixed. They
were ideally asccessed via Turtnike Demon's own software.

However someone has reported many ISPs are pulling their support of
groups, mainly becasue they take up too much bandwidth etc.

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use? Most will allow you to read but not
post.

What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL


Janet

Pat P[_2_] 27-10-2008 11:02 PM

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"Janet" wrote in message
...
Help, from all of us on Demon. Since september we have been unable to
get on to this newsgroup via Demon servers. They are continously
unavailable to us and 'apparently' in the porcess of being fixed. They
were ideally asccessed via Turtnike Demon's own software.

However someone has reported many ISPs are pulling their support of
groups, mainly becasue they take up too much bandwidth etc.

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use? Most will allow you to read but not
post.

What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL


Janet


We`re with Virgin - never had any trouble in all the years we`ve been with
them (touch wood!).

Pat



Sacha[_3_] 27-10-2008 11:04 PM

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On 27/10/08 23:02, in article , "Pat P"
wrote:


"Janet" wrote in message
...
Help, from all of us on Demon. Since september we have been unable to
get on to this newsgroup via Demon servers. They are continously
unavailable to us and 'apparently' in the porcess of being fixed. They
were ideally asccessed via Turtnike Demon's own software.

However someone has reported many ISPs are pulling their support of
groups, mainly becasue they take up too much bandwidth etc.

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use? Most will allow you to read but not
post.

What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL


Janet


We`re with Virgin - never had any trouble in all the years we`ve been with
them (touch wood!).

Pat


I'm very pleased with Zen. Their service and techie help is outstanding.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Tom Withycombe[_2_] 27-10-2008 11:44 PM

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In message
, Janet
writes
Help, from all of us on Demon. Since september we have been unable to
get on to this newsgroup via Demon servers. They are continously
unavailable to us and 'apparently' in the porcess of being fixed. They
were ideally asccessed via Turtnike Demon's own software.

However someone has reported many ISPs are pulling their support of
groups, mainly becasue they take up too much bandwidth etc.

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use? Most will allow you to read but not
post.

What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL


Janet


For what it's worth I changed from Demon after14 or so years. W.e.f 01
April this year I switched to Zen and retained Turnpike (TP6.05U) which
works perfectly. I have an infinitely superior service with all the
newsgroups I used to enjoy.
--
Tom W.
Deepest Dorset

OG 27-10-2008 11:44 PM

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"Janet" wrote in message
...
Help, from all of us on Demon. Since september we have been unable to
get on to this newsgroup via Demon servers. They are continously
unavailable to us and 'apparently' in the porcess of being fixed. They
were ideally asccessed via Turtnike Demon's own software.

However someone has reported many ISPs are pulling their support of
groups, mainly becasue they take up too much bandwidth etc.

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use? Most will allow you to read but not
post.

What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL


You can sign up for News.individual.net for 7 euros for a year. This gives
access to non-binary newsgroups

Or there is the abomination that is google 'groups'


FarmI 28-10-2008 03:53 AM

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"Janet" wrote in message

I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird


I would warn you to be very concerned about using Thunderbird. I have been
getting emails withattchments containing viruses and whenever I have done a
'properties' check on them, I notice that all come from Thunderbird users.
I have some doubts that the Thunderbird users know they are sending out
viruses but my killfile has hundreds of Thunderbird users in it now.



sleepalot 28-10-2008 06:56 AM

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Janet wrote:

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use?


My newsserver is nntp.aioe.org
It's a free, public newsserver, for text-only groups.

--
Sleepalot aa #1385


Cerumen[_3_] 28-10-2008 07:04 AM

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"Janet" wrote in message
...
Help, from all of us on Demon. Since september we have been unable to
get on to this newsgroup via Demon servers. They are continously
unavailable to us and 'apparently' in the porcess of being fixed. They
were ideally asccessed via Turtnike Demon's own software.

However someone has reported many ISPs are pulling their support of
groups, mainly becasue they take up too much bandwidth etc.

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use? Most will allow you to read but not
post.

What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL

I use NIN 10 Euro a year and/or Motzarella which is free.

--
Chris.
Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.



chris French 28-10-2008 09:49 AM

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In message , OG
writes

"Janet" wrote in message
...
Help, from all of us on Demon. Since september we have been unable to
get on to this newsgroup via Demon servers. They are continously
unavailable to us and 'apparently' in the porcess of being fixed. They
were ideally asccessed via Turtnike Demon's own software.

However someone has reported many ISPs are pulling their support of
groups, mainly becasue they take up too much bandwidth etc.

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use? Most will allow you to read but not
post.

What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL


You can sign up for News.individual.net for 7 euros for a year. This
gives access to non-binary newsgroups


Yup, been using them for years on and off.

An alternative, is to sign up to one of Usenet services aimed primarily
at those who use binary groups. Sign up to one of the not time limited,
set amount of bandwidth for a fixed fee tariffs.

Eg, Astraweb web will do you 25GB for US$10 - for text groups only that
would last for many years.


http://www.news.astraweb.com/


I'm surprised Demon still has customers really, they long, long ago
ceased to be a decent ISP.
--
Chris French


Sheila 28-10-2008 11:19 AM

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"Janet" wrote in message
...
Help, from all of us on Demon. Since september we have been unable to
get on to this newsgroup via Demon servers. They are continously
unavailable to us and 'apparently' in the porcess of being fixed. They
were ideally asccessed via Turtnike Demon's own software.

However someone has reported many ISPs are pulling their support of
groups, mainly becasue they take up too much bandwidth etc.

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use? Most will allow you to read but not
post.

What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL


Janet


Use Virgin, no problems, excellent tech help.



®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² 28-10-2008 12:06 PM

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On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:19:40 GMT, "Sheila"
wrote and included this (or some of
this):



What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL


Janet


Use Virgin, no problems,


What's the shelf life nowadays?

--
®óñ© © ²°¹°-°²

Rusty_Hinge 28-10-2008 01:29 PM

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The message
from Janet contains these words:

Help, from all of us on Demon. Since september we have been unable to
get on to this newsgroup via Demon servers. They are continously
unavailable to us and 'apparently' in the porcess of being fixed. They
were ideally asccessed via Turtnike Demon's own software.


However someone has reported many ISPs are pulling their support of
groups, mainly becasue they take up too much bandwidth etc.


Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use? Most will allow you to read but not
post.


What do others use ? (other than those bound up with OE or dreadful
things such as AOL


Well, I use ZIMACS and have access to Zetnet's servers. Unfortunately,
you couldn't access them unless you decamped to Zetnet.

But I would point out that the Zetservers are safe, because the Zetgods
(or at least, the Chief Zetgod), are/is a Usenet man.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

Ian Prideaux 28-10-2008 03:43 PM

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FarmI wrote:
"Janet" wrote in message

I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird


I would warn you to be very concerned about using Thunderbird. I have been
getting emails withattchments containing viruses and whenever I have done a
'properties' check on them, I notice that all come from Thunderbird users.
I have some doubts that the Thunderbird users know they are sending out
viruses but my killfile has hundreds of Thunderbird users in it now.


There's nothing wrong with TB, it's no more prone to viruses than any
other MUA/newsreader, and of course it's much better then Outlook, but
then everything is. Having said that, TB isn't the greatest newsreadin
in the world. You might be able to enhance it with addons, but I've
never bothered to look.

I'm not daft enough to run everything as
Administrator/super-user/unlimited-user, so I don't have much of a
problem with viruses. Even so, I do run the free version of Avast, just
in case.

Ian Prideaux 28-10-2008 03:46 PM

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Sleepalot wrote:
Janet wrote:

Question:
I can get a new email address/server etc but using Thunderbird what
usenet server should i use?


My newsserver is nntp.aioe.org
It's a free, public newsserver, for text-only groups.

Yep, me too. It works fine, although it can sometimes slow down a bit.
But then, it's free so you don't expect an SLA.

I notice a lot of people have replied "I use XXX isp, so I use their
newsserver". Usually, if you're not a customer of XXX isp, then you
won't be able to use their newsservers.


Rusty_Hinge 28-10-2008 05:14 PM

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The message
from Ian Prideaux contains these words:

I notice a lot of people have replied "I use XXX isp, so I use their
newsserver". Usually, if you're not a customer of XXX isp, then you
won't be able to use their newsservers.


True, but as the OP sounded somewhat dischuffed with Demon, suggestions
of more reliable and user-friendly ISPs were in order, IMO

I've been with Zetnet now for about six months short of the time it's
been going - first as sysadmin for a business, and then on my own
account.

Must be twelve or thirteen years.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig


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