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mogga 29-01-2009 01:20 PM

Charge for compost bin
 
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...

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Bob Hobden 29-01-2009 01:43 PM

Charge for compost bin
 

"mogga" wrote...
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...

My initial reaction is "absurd, must be a hoax" but with this lot I can't
discount anything.
:-(

--
Regards
Bob Hobden





Stewart Robert Hinsley 29-01-2009 02:04 PM

Charge for compost bin
 
In message , Bob Hobden
writes

"mogga" wrote...
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...

My initial reaction is "absurd, must be a hoax" but with this lot I can't
discount anything.
:-(

More likely to be charging people for *not* having compost bins (i.e.
using council supplied garden waste bin collection services).
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

OG 29-01-2009 02:36 PM

Charge for compost bin
 

"mogga" wrote in message
...
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...


Possibly related to the proposed charges for large scale composters -
previously exempted for 1000 tonnes per year, but DEFRA are proposing a
reduction of the limit to 40 tonnes per year and with a £50 charge for an
exemption certificate.

Sounds more like a cock up in trying to implement environmental controls
rather than a new 'stealth tax' threat.
http://www.letsrecycle.com/do/ecco.p...stitemid=10955

DEFRA
http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/co...mption-review/

All this I know from doing a search for 'compost' on the google news site.



Robert \(Plymouth\)[_272_] 29-01-2009 05:48 PM

Charge for compost bin
 


"mogga" wrote in message
...
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...

--
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk


He probably reads the Daily Mail so I shouldn't worry


Christina Websell 29-01-2009 09:58 PM

Charge for compost bin
 

"mogga" wrote in message
...
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...


Seems unlikely, surely they cannot have it both ways? Either they get rid
of our waste which costs them or we are encouraged to compost which saves
them money.




James R 29-01-2009 10:16 PM

Charge for compost bin
 

"mogga" wrote in message
...
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...

--


Check whether he has recently started to smoke anything he grows.
That might explain his slight confusion and lack of reality. The best
thing to do with idiots like that who start and spread rumours is to
say they are telling lies unless they can back up what they claim
with written proof. They soon shut up and get a life.



Bigal 29-01-2009 11:08 PM

Don't knock it, I like it. Ignore half of it and there may be some credence in half of what's left.

Bigal

Mel[_11_] 29-01-2009 11:15 PM

Charge for compost bin
 
"mogga" wrote...
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...


I reckon this article might be what you're talking about:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...charities.html



OG 30-01-2009 08:55 AM

Charge for compost bin
 

"Bigal" wrote in message
...

'Robert \(Plymouth\)[_272_ Wrote:
;828540']"mogga" wrote in message
...-
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...

--
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk-

He probably reads the Daily Mail so I shouldn't worry


Don't knock it, I like it. Ignore half of it and there may be some
credence in half of what's left.


When it comes up with alarmist rubbish like this ?
"How green gardening is encouraging an explosion in rat population"

Article starts by claiming that 'research suggests' that the trend for
compost heaps and eco gardens is fuelling an explosion in rat numbers

Shock horror figures on the numbers of people seeing rats and whether they
keep chickens, have compost bins or use bird feeders.

Fair dues to the actual journalist involved, he does point out that the
survey was conducted for a Pest Control company, he also points out that
some of the 'non composting' people don't even have gardens, and makes the
good point that people who have chickens or make compost are more likely to
be IN the garden in the first place.

I suspect that the shock horror parts were added later by a sub editor, so
in my view, 'yes' you should knock the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...opulation.html



mogga 30-01-2009 09:52 AM

Charge for compost bin
 
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:48:25 -0000, "Robert \(Plymouth\)"
wrote:



"mogga" wrote in message
.. .
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...

--
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk


He probably reads the Daily Mail so I shouldn't worry


I think it was the allotment society that have told him
--
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

Steve Harris 30-01-2009 07:49 PM

Charge for compost bin
 
In article ,
(mogga) wrote:

looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.


Could it be this proposal (or similar) in Cheltenham?

"Replacing the existing fortnightly collection service for garden waste
with a charged-for weekly service, also from September 2009, collected at
the same time and in the same vehicles as the kitchen waste. Households
who wish to participate in the weekly garden waste collection service will
be provided with a special wheeled bin for this service at the cost of
£30.00 per bin per annum or £15.00 for those households in receipt of
council tax benefit.."

From:
http://tinyurl.com/bz4pqg

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/

Daddy Tadpole 30-01-2009 10:03 PM

Charge for compost bin
 

"Martin" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:55:37 -0000, "OG" wrote:


"Bigal" wrote in message
...

'Robert \(Plymouth\)[_272_ Wrote:
;828540']"mogga"
wrote in message
...-
Secrertary of the allotments says he's just heard today the govt is
looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.
Have had a quick look on the news online but can't see anything about
it...

--
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk-

He probably reads the Daily Mail so I shouldn't worry

Don't knock it, I like it. Ignore half of it and there may be some
credence in half of what's left.


When it comes up with alarmist rubbish like this ?
"How green gardening is encouraging an explosion in rat population"

Article starts by claiming that 'research suggests' that the trend for
compost heaps and eco gardens is fuelling an explosion in rat numbers

Shock horror figures on the numbers of people seeing rats and whether they
keep chickens, have compost bins or use bird feeders.

Fair dues to the actual journalist involved, he does point out that the
survey was conducted for a Pest Control company, he also points out that
some of the 'non composting' people don't even have gardens, and makes the
good point that people who have chickens or make compost are more likely
to
be IN the garden in the first place.

I suspect that the shock horror parts were added later by a sub editor, so
in my view, 'yes' you should knock the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...opulation.html


You do get the stunning revelation that Kaplinsky's waist line has shrunk
since
she had her baby. Whatever next?


Who's Kaplinsky?


--

Martin




chris French 02-02-2009 11:45 PM

Charge for compost bin
 
In message , Jennifer Sparkes
writes
The message
from (Steve Harris) contains these words:

In article ,
(mogga) wrote:

looking at charging people for every compost bin they have.


Could it be this proposal (or similar) in Cheltenham?


"Replacing the existing fortnightly collection service for garden waste
with a charged-for weekly service, also from September 2009, collected at
the same time and in the same vehicles as the kitchen waste. Households
who wish to participate in the weekly garden waste collection service will
be provided with a special wheeled bin for this service at the cost of
£30.00 per bin per annum or £15.00 for those households in receipt of
council tax benefit.."


From:
http://tinyurl.com/bz4pqg

That sounds similar to Bristol. I had to buy my 'green wheelie bin'
which I can use for garden waste and cardboard. I also have to pay
an annual charge of, IIRC, £29.00 for the service - but it does save
me going to the tip.

This arrangement started about 2 years ago. The green bin is
collected, as is the food waste which goes in a separate bin
provided by the Council, weekly. Works well and if you don't want
a 'Green Wheelie bin' you can buy sacks for garden rubbish.


Seems somewhat of a cheek to expect people to buy the bin and/or be
charged annually for this sort of thing, given that the LA would
(presumably) rather people did this so as not to have to landfill it.

Our garden waste is also collected here, in the same wheelie bin that
takes kitchen food waste, but they don't have the cheek to charge for it
(not that we really use the facility, except for getting rid of say
things like brambles or weeds I don't want to compost)
--
Chris French


Kathy 03-02-2009 11:20 AM

Charge for compost bin
 


"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message , Jennifer Sparkes
writes
The message
from (Steve Harris) contains these words:

In article ,
(mogga) wrote:



Snip of posts on councils charging for compost bins.


Seems somewhat of a cheek to expect people to buy the bin and/or be
charged annually for this sort of thing, given that the LA would
(presumably) rather people did this so as not to have to landfill it.

Our garden waste is also collected here, in the same wheelie bin that
takes kitchen food waste, but they don't have the cheek to charge for it
(not that we really use the facility, except for getting rid of say things
like brambles or weeds I don't want to compost)


We have the same service here. Free, and they give you the bin. You can
purchase a second bin if you need it, and I think they may make a yearly
charge for emptying that. I now have three bins in my garden - grey for
general rubbish, blue for recycling and brown for compostable waste. All
free.

--
Kathy

It's pointless to try and discuss ethics with a spider.




Kathy 03-02-2009 01:07 PM

Charge for compost bin
 

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:20:50 -0000, "Kathy" wrote:



"chris French" wrote in message
. uk...
In message , Jennifer Sparkes
writes
The message
from (Steve Harris) contains these words:

In article ,
(mogga) wrote:



Snip of posts on councils charging for compost bins.


Seems somewhat of a cheek to expect people to buy the bin and/or be
charged annually for this sort of thing, given that the LA would
(presumably) rather people did this so as not to have to landfill it.

Our garden waste is also collected here, in the same wheelie bin that
takes kitchen food waste, but they don't have the cheek to charge for it
(not that we really use the facility, except for getting rid of say
things
like brambles or weeds I don't want to compost)


We have the same service here. Free, and they give you the bin. You can
purchase a second bin if you need it, and I think they may make a yearly
charge for emptying that. I now have three bins in my garden - grey for
general rubbish, blue for recycling and brown for compostable waste. All
free.


When we reported a bin missing, a new one was delivered free the next day.
The
missing one found it's own way home.
We have
2 grey
1 green
1 red for chemical waste


Chmical? What comes under that heading?

Glass is disposed of elsewhere.

Same here.

Heavy rubbish is collected on request.

Same here, with a £10 charge.

Paper is collected once a week by a local sports club who have been paid
to do
it by the local authority ever since there has been a world used paper
surplus.

Goes in the recycling if whole, in the compost if shredded.

--
Kathy

It's pointless to try and discuss ethics with a spider.




Bigal 03-02-2009 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin[_2_] (Post 828576)

Check the date. Half the day is bound to be right - the last three letters that is. Bigal

Christina Websell 05-02-2009 10:34 PM

Charge for compost bin
 

"Kathy" wrote in message
...


"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message , Jennifer Sparkes
writes
The message
from (Steve Harris) contains these words:

In article ,
(mogga) wrote:



Snip of posts on councils charging for compost bins.


Seems somewhat of a cheek to expect people to buy the bin and/or be
charged annually for this sort of thing, given that the LA would
(presumably) rather people did this so as not to have to landfill it.

Our garden waste is also collected here, in the same wheelie bin that
takes kitchen food waste, but they don't have the cheek to charge for it
(not that we really use the facility, except for getting rid of say
things like brambles or weeds I don't want to compost)


We have the same service here. Free, and they give you the bin. You can
purchase a second bin if you need it, and I think they may make a yearly
charge for emptying that. I now have three bins in my garden - grey for
general rubbish, blue for recycling and brown for compostable waste. All
free.


Red bag for paper and cardboard, green bag for tins and plastic, a box for
glass and a black bin for "nothing you can do with this"
We are expected do our own composting. That's OK for me as I have a large
garden and a compost heap but how those who live in apartments manage this I
don't know.




Judith in France 06-02-2009 03:51 PM

Charge for compost bin
 
On Feb 5, 11:06*pm, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:34:14 -0000, "Christina Websell"



wrote:

"Kathy" wrote in message
...


"chris French" wrote in message
. uk...
In message , Jennifer Sparkes
writes
The message
from (Steve Harris) contains these words:


In article ,
(mogga) wrote:


Snip of posts on councils charging for compost bins.


Seems somewhat of a cheek to expect people to buy the bin and/or be
charged annually for this sort of thing, given that the LA would
(presumably) rather people did this so as not to have to landfill it.


Our garden waste is also collected here, in the same wheelie bin that
takes kitchen food waste, but they don't have the cheek to charge for it
(not that we really use the facility, except for getting rid of say
things like brambles or weeds I don't want to compost)


We have the same service here. *Free, and they give you the bin. *You can
purchase a second bin if you need it, and I think they may make a yearly
charge for emptying that. *I now have three bins in my garden - grey for
general rubbish, blue for recycling and brown for compostable waste. All
free.


Red bag for paper and cardboard, *green bag for tins and plastic, a box for
glass and *a black bin for "nothing you can do with this"
We are expected do our own composting. *That's OK for me as I have a large
garden and a compost heap but how those who live in apartments manage this I
don't know.


We were given a compost bin each.
--

Martin


Here in France we don't get them free Martin, can you send me one of
yours? :-)

Judith

Judith in France 06-02-2009 10:43 PM

Charge for compost bin
 
On Feb 6, 4:22*pm, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:51:52 -0800 (PST), Judith in France



wrote:
On Feb 5, 11:06*pm, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:34:14 -0000, "Christina Websell"


wrote:


"Kathy" wrote in message
...


"chris French" wrote in message
. uk...
In message , Jennifer Sparkes
writes
The message
from (Steve Harris) contains these words:


In article ,
(mogga) wrote:


Snip of posts on councils charging for compost bins.


Seems somewhat of a cheek to expect people to buy the bin and/or be
charged annually for this sort of thing, given that the LA would
(presumably) rather people did this so as not to have to landfill it.


Our garden waste is also collected here, in the same wheelie bin that
takes kitchen food waste, but they don't have the cheek to charge for it
(not that we really use the facility, except for getting rid of say
things like brambles or weeds I don't want to compost)


We have the same service here. *Free, and they give you the bin. *You can
purchase a second bin if you need it, and I think they may make a yearly
charge for emptying that. *I now have three bins in my garden - grey for
general rubbish, blue for recycling and brown for compostable waste.. All
free.


Red bag for paper and cardboard, *green bag for tins and plastic, a box for
glass and *a black bin for "nothing you can do with this"
We are expected do our own composting. *That's OK for me as I have a large
garden and a compost heap but how those who live in apartments manage this I
don't know.


We were given a compost bin each.
--


Martin


Here in France we don't get them free Martin, can you send me one of
yours? *:-)


You are 391st on the list.
--

Martin


You can put me straight to the top of the list, it was my birthday
yesterday, 21 again, and you forgot!!!

Judith

Sacha[_3_] 06-02-2009 11:12 PM

Charge for compost bin
 
On 6/2/09 22:43, in article
, "Judith in
France" wrote:

On Feb 6, 4:22*pm, Martin wrote:

snip

We were given a compost bin each.
--


Martin


Here in France we don't get them free Martin, can you send me one of
yours? *:-)


You are 391st on the list.
--

Martin


You can put me straight to the top of the list, it was my birthday
yesterday, 21 again, and you forgot!!!

Judith


Judith! You and my son - I had no idea. Happy yesterday and many, many
tomorrows.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Perennials & shrubs online


Judith in France 07-02-2009 11:58 AM

Charge for compost bin
 
On Feb 6, 11:06*pm, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:43:04 -0800 (PST), Judith in France



wrote:
On Feb 6, 4:22*pm, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:51:52 -0800 (PST), Judith in France


wrote:
On Feb 5, 11:06*pm, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:34:14 -0000, "Christina Websell"


wrote:


"Kathy" wrote in message
...


"chris French" wrote in message
. uk...
In message , Jennifer Sparkes
writes
The message
from (Steve Harris) contains these words:


In article ,
(mogga) wrote:


Snip of posts on councils charging for compost bins.


Seems somewhat of a cheek to expect people to buy the bin and/or be
charged annually for this sort of thing, given that the LA would
(presumably) rather people did this so as not to have to landfill it.


Our garden waste is also collected here, in the same wheelie bin that
takes kitchen food waste, but they don't have the cheek to charge for it
(not that we really use the facility, except for getting rid of say
things like brambles or weeds I don't want to compost)


We have the same service here. *Free, and they give you the bin. *You can
purchase a second bin if you need it, and I think they may make a yearly
charge for emptying that. *I now have three bins in my garden - grey for
general rubbish, blue for recycling and brown for compostable waste. All
free.


Red bag for paper and cardboard, *green bag for tins and plastic, a box for
glass and *a black bin for "nothing you can do with this"
We are expected do our own composting. *That's OK for me as I have a large
garden and a compost heap but how those who live in apartments manage this I
don't know.


We were given a compost bin each.
--


Martin


Here in France we don't get them free Martin, can you send me one of
yours? *:-)


You are 391st on the list.
--


Martin


You can put me straight to the top of the list, it was my birthday
yesterday, 21 again, and you forgot!!!


If I was 21, I would have remembered. Happy Birthday!
--

Martin


Thanks Martin. Just to keep on a gardening topic, when I was in the
UK I went into B&Q to buy some paint and saw individual bedding
plantlets, just one plug at 75p I couldn't believe it!!!!

Judith

Judith in France 07-02-2009 11:59 AM

Charge for compost bin
 
On Feb 6, 11:12*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 6/2/09 22:43, in article
, "Judith in





France" wrote:
On Feb 6, 4:22*pm, Martin wrote:

snip

We were given a compost bin each.
--


Martin


Here in France we don't get them free Martin, can you send me one of
yours? *:-)


You are 391st on the list.
--


Martin


You can put me straight to the top of the list, it was my birthday
yesterday, 21 again, and you forgot!!!


Judith


Judith! *You and my son - I had no idea. *Happy yesterday and many, many
tomorrows.

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Perennials & shrubs online


Thank you, I knew that your son and I shared a birthday, remember you
told me about 13 years ago!!!!!

Judith

Sacha[_3_] 07-02-2009 03:16 PM

Charge for compost bin
 
On 7/2/09 11:59, in article
, "Judith
in France" wrote:

On Feb 6, 11:12*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 6/2/09 22:43, in article
, "Judith in





France" wrote:
On Feb 6, 4:22*pm, Martin wrote:

snip

We were given a compost bin each.
--


Martin


Here in France we don't get them free Martin, can you send me one of
yours? *:-)


You are 391st on the list.
--


Martin


You can put me straight to the top of the list, it was my birthday
yesterday, 21 again, and you forgot!!!


Judith


Judith! *You and my son - I had no idea. *Happy yesterday and many, many
tomorrows.

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Perennials & shrubs online


Thank you, I knew that your son and I shared a birthday, remember you
told me about 13 years ago!!!!!

Judith


Well, I'm glad one of us has a good memory!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Perennials & shrubs online



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