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Rebecca[_2_] 24-06-2009 07:53 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 
Im so dissapointed. Being a relatively new, and very (very!) nervous
gardener I have been thrilled with my Lavatera which was the first
shrub I bought and has been a superstar in the garden the past 3
years.

This year..nothing. Absolutely zilch. Its completely dead.

Admittedly I didnt prune it last year but surely this won't have
killed it?

Trying to do online research I read somewhere that they only live for
about 3 years. Is this right? I thought they lasted forever?(!)

So, is it time to dig it up and start again?
Your thoughts wd be much appreciated.

Thanks!
Becky

Bertie Doe 24-06-2009 08:23 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 
It happened to us. Two weeks ago our L.Barnsley was pronounced dead. We
bought a L.Rosea. I was about to dig up the old corpse and noticed new leaf
stems coming from the base. Out came the pruners and all the old upper
branches have been removed, seems to be doing fine. Yours may be a gonner,
have you given it a good soaking?

Bertie


wafflycat 24-06-2009 09:09 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 

"Rebecca" wrote in message
...


Trying to do online research I read somewhere that they only live for
about 3 years. Is this right? I thought they lasted forever?(!)


Lavatera are a relatively short-lived shrub.


David in Normandy[_8_] 24-06-2009 09:15 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 
Rebecca wrote:
Im so dissapointed. Being a relatively new, and very (very!) nervous
gardener I have been thrilled with my Lavatera which was the first
shrub I bought and has been a superstar in the garden the past 3
years.

This year..nothing. Absolutely zilch. Its completely dead.

Admittedly I didnt prune it last year but surely this won't have
killed it?

Trying to do online research I read somewhere that they only live for
about 3 years. Is this right? I thought they lasted forever?(!)

So, is it time to dig it up and start again?
Your thoughts wd be much appreciated.

Thanks!
Becky


Best to take cuttings; you can keep one indefinitely like that.

--
David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.

Stewart Robert Hinsley 24-06-2009 09:19 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 
In message
,
Rebecca writes
Im so dissapointed. Being a relatively new, and very (very!) nervous
gardener I have been thrilled with my Lavatera which was the first
shrub I bought and has been a superstar in the garden the past 3
years.

This year..nothing. Absolutely zilch. Its completely dead.

Admittedly I didnt prune it last year but surely this won't have
killed it?

Trying to do online research I read somewhere that they only live for
about 3 years. Is this right? I thought they lasted forever?(!)


They can last a long time (there's one down the road that's been around
for 10 years or more), but they do tend to be short lived. They don't
like standing water around their roots (I've had plants killed by
flooding in the summer before), and they're not the hardiest of plants
(some shelter helps).

With regards to pruning, some people (not me) prune Lavatera's back hard
to a framework. In Autumn I cut off the flowered stems to where new
shoots are breaking, and in spring cut out any dead wood. Some normally
shrubby varieties can behave as herbaceous perennials in some climates,
dying back to the ground, and shooting from the base. 'Barnsley' is
known for doing this, and I've found 'Lisanne' to produce new shoots
from suckers, rather than the base of the stem.

Lavateras, especially 'Rosea' and 'Barnsley', are easily propagated from
cuttings, so you can always have replacement plants available if you
have somewhere to overwinter them.

So, is it time to dig it up and start again?
Your thoughts wd be much appreciated.

Thanks!
Becky


--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 24-06-2009 09:25 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 
In article 61bcd661-7f79-443f-b861-
,
says...
Im so dissapointed. Being a relatively new, and very (very!) nervous
gardener I have been thrilled with my Lavatera which was the first
shrub I bought and has been a superstar in the garden the past 3
years.

This year..nothing. Absolutely zilch. Its completely dead.

Admittedly I didnt prune it last year but surely this won't have
killed it?

Trying to do online research I read somewhere that they only live for
about 3 years. Is this right? I thought they lasted forever?(!)

So, is it time to dig it up and start again?
Your thoughts wd be much appreciated.

Thanks!
Becky

They are short lived and it is a good idea to prune them as it prevents
winter wind rock and keeps the growth younger and less woody but the
reason yours died is almost certainly damaged caused by cold this winter,
they are not fully hardy
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Rebecca[_2_] 24-06-2009 10:31 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 
Thanks for the info guys.
Being a heavy clay soil garden (which is why for easiness most of my
plants are in containers!) I can see that the wet and cold of the
winter have sadly seen the end my my Lavatera.

Well, I have learnt not to get too excited by a great growing shrub!
Can I plant new shrubs, such as Lavetera, at this time? I loved the
speed of its growth! Or wd anyone recommend anything similar for great
speedy growth and colour.
Im in Surrey, UK.

Thanks again guys.
Becky

On 24 June, 21:19, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:
In message
,
Rebecca writes

Im so dissapointed. Being a relatively new, and very (very!) nervous
gardener I have been thrilled with my Lavatera which was the first
shrub I bought and has been a superstar in the garden the past 3
years.


This year..nothing. Absolutely zilch. Its completely dead.


Admittedly I didnt prune it last year but surely this won't have
killed it?


Trying to do online research I read somewhere that they only live for
about 3 years. Is this right? I thought they lasted forever?(!)


They can last a long time (there's one down the road that's been around
for 10 years or more), but they do tend to be short lived. They don't
like standing water around their roots (I've had plants killed by
flooding in the summer before), and they're not the hardiest of plants
(some shelter helps).

With regards to pruning, some people (not me) prune Lavatera's back hard
to a framework. In Autumn I cut off the flowered stems to where new
shoots are breaking, and in spring cut out any dead wood. Some normally
shrubby varieties can behave as herbaceous perennials in some climates,
dying back to the ground, and shooting from the base. 'Barnsley' is
known for doing this, and I've found 'Lisanne' to produce new shoots
from suckers, rather than the base of the stem.

Lavateras, especially 'Rosea' and 'Barnsley', are easily propagated from
cuttings, so you can always have replacement plants available if you
have somewhere to overwinter them.



So, is it time to dig it up and start again?
Your thoughts wd be much appreciated.


Thanks!
Becky


--
Stewart Robert Hinsley



Spider[_2_] 24-06-2009 11:00 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 

"Rebecca" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the info guys.
Being a heavy clay soil garden (which is why for easiness most of my
plants are in containers!) I can see that the wet and cold of the
winter have sadly seen the end my my Lavatera.

Well, I have learnt not to get too excited by a great growing shrub!
Can I plant new shrubs, such as Lavetera, at this time? I loved the
speed of its growth! Or wd anyone recommend anything similar for great
speedy growth and colour.
Im in Surrey, UK.

Thanks again guys.
Becky


Do try Lavatera again since you like it so much; you may be luckier next
time. I would also recommend Hebe 'Midsummer Beauty', which is a grand Hebe
with lavender flowers which attract bees and butterflies. Another quick
grower is Ceanothus, although these can also be short lived. Also try
Fuchsia 'Mrs Popple, a hardy shrub with red and purple flowers. I grow - or
have grown - all these plants on my heavy London clay with good results.

Spider








On 24 June, 21:19, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:
In message
,
Rebecca writes

Im so dissapointed. Being a relatively new, and very (very!) nervous
gardener I have been thrilled with my Lavatera which was the first
shrub I bought and has been a superstar in the garden the past 3
years.


This year..nothing. Absolutely zilch. Its completely dead.


Admittedly I didnt prune it last year but surely this won't have
killed it?


Trying to do online research I read somewhere that they only live for
about 3 years. Is this right? I thought they lasted forever?(!)


They can last a long time (there's one down the road that's been around
for 10 years or more), but they do tend to be short lived. They don't
like standing water around their roots (I've had plants killed by
flooding in the summer before), and they're not the hardiest of plants
(some shelter helps).

With regards to pruning, some people (not me) prune Lavatera's back hard
to a framework. In Autumn I cut off the flowered stems to where new
shoots are breaking, and in spring cut out any dead wood. Some normally
shrubby varieties can behave as herbaceous perennials in some climates,
dying back to the ground, and shooting from the base. 'Barnsley' is
known for doing this, and I've found 'Lisanne' to produce new shoots
from suckers, rather than the base of the stem.

Lavateras, especially 'Rosea' and 'Barnsley', are easily propagated from
cuttings, so you can always have replacement plants available if you
have somewhere to overwinter them.



So, is it time to dig it up and start again?
Your thoughts wd be much appreciated.


Thanks!
Becky


--
Stewart Robert Hinsley





Bertie Doe 25-06-2009 04:10 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
In message

snip
Lavateras, especially 'Rosea' and 'Barnsley', are easily propagated from
cuttings, so you can always have replacement plants available if you have
somewhere to overwinter them.


Stewart Robert Hinsley


When would be the best time of year to take cuttings, to plant in a
coldframe.
Thanks.
Bertie


wafflycat 25-06-2009 04:40 PM

Lavatera - stunning one year...dead the next. Any ideas?
 

"Bertie Doe" wrote in message
...

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
In message

snip
Lavateras, especially 'Rosea' and 'Barnsley', are easily propagated from
cuttings, so you can always have replacement plants available if you have
somewhere to overwinter them.


Stewart Robert Hinsley


When would be the best time of year to take cuttings, to plant in a
coldframe.
Thanks.
Bertie


With Lavertera, I've just cut growth off and stuck it in a pot and hey
presto, it grows. I've never had to do anything more than that as it seems
so keen to develop roots and grow on.



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