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Hi everyone, I too am a newbie to the Forum and also I have a question. I hope someone can help me with. I have always had a Lawn to look after that was moderate in size, however last year I moved house to a very large garden of an acre with a large lawn. The garden has been neglected for many years and I am in the process of reclaiming it back a little from mother nature, wrestling with Bind weed and Ground elder on a large scale as well as other weeds.
My question is ; In the large lawn is Ground elder, bind weed, in places, but I also have problems with Clover, purple and white on a large scale. Money is very tight and I try to garden without the use of pesticides as much as possible except Glyposate for the ground elder. The garden backs onto the Village meadow and is surrounded by wonderful full size trees. Can anyone give me advice on what I could do to Improve the Lawn and try to erradicate some of these problems? I suppose I am a little frightened of ploughing in, incase I ruin such a large area and can't afford to replace it. Help!!

Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the bindweed.

I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you, is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing animals.)

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echinosum writes

Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's
only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the
bindweed.

Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too.

I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other
things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you,
is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept
dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you
have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing
animals.)

We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all
logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of
plant pests as well as of animal ones.



--
echinosum

--
Kay

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"drtj1960" wrote in message
...

Hi everyone, I too am a newbie to the Forum and also I have a
question.
I hope someone can help me with. I have always had a Lawn to
look after
that was moderate in size, however last year I moved house to a
very
large garden of an acre with a large lawn. The garden has been
neglected for many years and I am in the process of reclaiming
it back
a little from mother nature, wrestling with Bind weed and
Ground elder
on a large scale as well as other weeds.
My question is ; In the large lawn is Ground elder, bind weed,
in
places, but I also have problems with Clover, purple and white
on a
large scale. Money is very tight and I try to garden without
the use of
pesticides as much as possible except Glyposate for the ground
elder.
The garden backs onto the Village meadow and is surrounded by
wonderful
full size trees. Can anyone give me advice on what I could do
to Improve
the Lawn and try to erradicate some of these problems? I
suppose I am a
little frightened of ploughing in, incase I ruin such a large
area and
can't afford to replace it. Help!!

My last home had over half an acre of lawn, or over half an acre
of weeds when we bought it. Apart from a little levelling here
and there and adding a little grass seed to the bare patches, all
I did was mow regularly. Not too low, but sometimes twice a week.
By the second year most of the weeds had gone. Persistent ones
were then spot treated with some liquid lawn "feed and weed".
Having a 42 inch ride on mower made the mowing quick and easy so
I didn't mind the twice weekly periods. I also made a heavy
roller to tow behind the mower (a simple shaft through two old
gas cylinders filled with concrete with an "A" frame towbar
knocked up from some second-hand dexion angle) which helped a lot
in the first couple of years. Just don't expect instant results.

Mike

Green Green Grass
 

"K" wrote in message
...
echinosum writes

Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's
only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the
bindweed.

Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too.

I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other
things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you,
is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept
dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you
have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing
animals.)

We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all
logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of
plant pests as well as of animal ones.

--
Kay


I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and
'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of
course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a
gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that?

Spider

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On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:04:16 +0100, "Spider"
wrote:



I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and
'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of
course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a
gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that?


The term "gastropodicide" already exists so why try to improve it?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com

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On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:04:16 +0100, "Spider"
wrote:


"K" wrote in message
...
echinosum writes

Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's
only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the
bindweed.

Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too.

I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other
things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you,
is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept
dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you
have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing
animals.)

We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all
logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of
plant pests as well as of animal ones.

--
Kay


I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and
'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of
course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a
gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that?


Thrush?

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On 2009-07-08 13:04:16 +0100, "Spider" said:


"K" wrote in message
...
echinosum writes

Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's
only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the
bindweed.

Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too.

I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other
things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you,
is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept
dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you
have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing
animals.)

We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all
logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of
plant pests as well as of animal ones.

--
Kay


I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and
'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of
course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a
gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that?

Spider

Boot. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

You have given me lots of hope and encouragement Mike I hope my Grass looks as good as yours sounds in a couple of Years. I myself have a 36" tractor mower I will certainly give it some thought about useing a roller behind!
Debs

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"drtj1960" wrote in message
...

Muddymike;855104 Wrote:
"drtj1960" wrote in
message
...-

Hi everyone, I too am a newbie to the Forum and also I have a
question.
I hope someone can help me with. I have always had a Lawn to
look after
that was moderate in size, however last year I moved house to
a
very
large garden of an acre with a large lawn. The garden has been
neglected for many years and I am in the process of reclaiming
it back
a little from mother nature, wrestling with Bind weed and
Ground elder
on a large scale as well as other weeds.
My question is ; In the large lawn is Ground elder, bind weed,
in
places, but I also have problems with Clover, purple and white
on a
large scale. Money is very tight and I try to garden without
the use of
pesticides as much as possible except Glyposate for the ground
elder.
The garden backs onto the Village meadow and is surrounded by
wonderful
full size trees. Can anyone give me advice on what I could do
to Improve
the Lawn and try to erradicate some of these problems? I
suppose I am a
little frightened of ploughing in, incase I ruin such a large
area and
can't afford to replace it. Help!!-

My last home had over half an acre of lawn, or over half an
acre
of weeds when we bought it. Apart from a little levelling here
and there and adding a little grass seed to the bare patches,
all
I did was mow regularly. Not too low, but sometimes twice a
week.
By the second year most of the weeds had gone. Persistent ones
were then spot treated with some liquid lawn "feed and weed".
Having a 42 inch ride on mower made the mowing quick and easy
so
I didn't mind the twice weekly periods. I also made a heavy
roller to tow behind the mower (a simple shaft through two old
gas cylinders filled with concrete with an "A" frame towbar
knocked up from some second-hand dexion angle) which helped a
lot
in the first couple of years. Just don't expect instant
results.

Mike

You have given me lots of hope and encouragement Mike I hope my
Grass
looks as good as yours sounds in a couple of Years. I myself
have a 36"
tractor mower I will certainly give it some thought about
useing a
roller behind!
Debs


I might have a picture of it somewhere. If I find it I will pop
it on my photo site to give you a little help in making one.

Mike

Green Green Grass
 

In message , Spider
writes

"K" wrote in message
...
echinosum writes

Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's
only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the
bindweed.

Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too.

I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other
things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you,
is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept
dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you
have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing
animals.)

We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all
logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of
plant pests as well as of animal ones.

--
Kay


I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and
'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of
course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a
gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that?

Molluscicide is the normal usage (200:1 over gastropodicide according to
Google, but I'm not convinced that Google hit counts are reliable any
more)

Spider



--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

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In article , echinosum
writes

I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn.

Have to disagree here echinsoum as clover in my lawn makes it quite
slippery when wet or damp. You can get rid of some of it by raking it so
that it stands up just before you mow the grass.



--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk