OT Ronnie Briggs
 

On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as to
whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk

OT Ronnie Briggs
 

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

--



By the way, for those who just LOVE to jump down my throat at every
opportunity, it's Off Topic on that forum as well :-)))

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk

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"'Mike'" wrote
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

Being as he was responsible for the death of a man whilst robbing I think he
should have been hanged (or whatever) long ago, which would have saved the
rest of us a lot of taxes keeping him in prison all these years.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

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"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?


My views are -

A. it's Biggs, not Briggs, and

B. He should have been left to rot in Brazil. I couldn't believe how the
gov't jumped the queue for him and got a passport at a moments notice, and a
private or chartered jet or whatever, at our expense of course. It was
blindingly obvious he only wanted to come back because he'd discovered what
health and pension conditions were like over there.

Steve

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"shazzbat" wrote in message
...

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?


My views are -

A. it's Biggs, not Briggs, and

B. He should have been left to rot in Brazil. I couldn't believe how the
gov't jumped the queue for him and got a passport at a moments notice, and
a private or chartered jet or whatever, at our expense of course. It was
blindingly obvious he only wanted to come back because he'd discovered
what health and pension conditions were like over there.


Nevertheless, he's back here now, and in the system, and IMO should be dealt
with, fairly, on similar terms to everyone else in the system, i.e. in
accordance with the parole board's recommendations. Can't help but think the
Government is using him to try to convince the public that they're 'tough on
crime', him being a much easier target than modern day active criminals.

OT Ronnie Briggs
 

"shazzbat" wrote in message
...

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?


My views are -

A. it's Biggs, not Briggs, and

B. He should have been left to rot in Brazil. I couldn't believe how the
gov't jumped the queue for him and got a passport at a moments notice, and
a private or chartered jet or whatever, at our expense of course. It was
blindingly obvious he only wanted to come back because he'd discovered
what health and pension conditions were like over there.

Steve

Interesting ....... Pension?

Would he be entitled to one? What has he paid in?

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk

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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"'Mike'" wrote
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

Being as he was responsible for the death of a man whilst robbing I think
he should have been hanged (or whatever) long ago, which would have saved
the rest of us a lot of taxes keeping him in prison all these years.

Here, here!

Alan

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"BAC" wrote in message
...

"shazzbat" wrote in message
...

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on
as to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?


My views are -

A. it's Biggs, not Briggs, and

B. He should have been left to rot in Brazil. I couldn't believe how the
gov't jumped the queue for him and got a passport at a moments notice,
and a private or chartered jet or whatever, at our expense of course. It
was blindingly obvious he only wanted to come back because he'd
discovered what health and pension conditions were like over there.


Nevertheless, he's back here now, and in the system, and IMO should be
dealt with, fairly, on similar terms to everyone else in the system, i.e.
in accordance with the parole board's recommendations. Can't help but
think the Government is using him to try to convince the public that
they're 'tough on crime', him being a much easier target than modern day
active criminals.

When he has finished his term in prision he can then be released.

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"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

--



By the way, for those who just LOVE to jump down my throat at every
opportunity, it's Off Topic on that forum as well :-)))


Seems like a legitimate subject for this NG. He's a vegetable these days is
he not?

OT Ronnie Briggs
 

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk



He is a waste of NHS resources.

Send him back to Brazil.

mark

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On Jul 13, 2:04*pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"'Mike'" *wrote On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

Being as he was responsible for the death of a man whilst robbing I think he
should have been hanged (or whatever) long ago, which would have saved the
rest of us a lot of taxes keeping him in prison all these years.

--
Regars
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

I thought his name was Biggs??? I'm too young, to remember :-)

Judith

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On Jul 13, 10:46*pm, "mark" wrote:
"'Mike'" wrote in message

...

On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk

He is a waste of NHS resources.

Send him back to Brazil.

mark

One of the Kray brothers was in my hospital; where I was employed. I
will keep my thoughts to myself. He died at Norwich, at an hotel
which formerly belonged to friends of mine. Again, I will keep my
thoughts to myself.

Judith

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'Mike' wrote:
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as to
whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.


Just out of interest, which forum?

Jeff

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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:49:37 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:

On Jul 13, 2:04*pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"'Mike'" *wrote On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

Being as he was responsible for the death of a man whilst robbing I think he
should have been hanged (or whatever) long ago, which would have saved the
rest of us a lot of taxes keeping him in prison all these years.

--
Regars
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

I thought his name was Biggs??? I'm too young, to remember :-)

Judith

It still is, and I remember the incident well.

Pam in Bristol

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"Jeff" wrote in message
...
'Mike' wrote:
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.


Just out of interest, which forum?

The only Forum I ever knew was a cinema in Ealing.


Jeff

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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"'Mike'" wrote
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

Being as he was responsible for the death of a man whilst robbing I think
he should have been hanged (or whatever) long ago, which would have saved
the rest of us a lot of taxes keeping him in prison all these years.


There's a flaw in that argument. I think by the time the man died several
years later of injuries he received in the robbery, hanging had been
abolished here in the UK.
My own opinion? Ronnie took part in a robbery for his own personal gain
and someone died because of his greed. He then escaped to South America and
lived the life of Riley there for years. He came back to take advantage of
the NHS when his health began to fail and has never shown any remorse for
what he did.
He still has quite a lot of sentence to serve if I remember rightly so let
him serve it. If it means he dies in prison, so be it.
Myra Hindley was not released when she was dying of cancer, so why should
Ronnie Biggs be?

Tina

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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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There's a flaw in that argument. I think by the time the man died several
years later of injuries he received in the robbery, hanging had been
abolished here in the UK.
My own opinion? Ronnie took part in a robbery for his own personal gain
and someone died because of his greed. He then escaped to South America
and lived the life of Riley there for years. He came back to take
advantage of the NHS when his health began to fail and has never shown any
remorse for what he did.
He still has quite a lot of sentence to serve if I remember rightly so let
him serve it. If it means he dies in prison, so be it.
Myra Hindley was not released when she was dying of cancer, so why should
Ronnie Biggs be?

Tina



Tina, I think you will be interested in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Biggs

I am 100% with you

(BTW, 28 years to serve :-))

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk

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On Jul 16, 5:11*pm, "Christina Websell"
wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message

...



"'Mike'" *wrote
On another forum I subscribe to, a very healthy discussion is going on as
to whether Ronnie Briggs should receive Parole and be released.

Could the same healthy discussion take place here?

What are the readers views?

Being as he was responsible for the death of a man whilst robbing I think
he should have been hanged (or whatever) long ago, which would have saved
the rest of us a lot of taxes keeping him in prison all these years.

There's a flaw in that argument. *I think by the time the man died several
years later of injuries he received in the robbery, hanging had been
abolished here in the UK.
My own opinion? * Ronnie took part in a robbery for his own personal gain
and someone died because of his greed. *He then escaped to South America and
lived the life of Riley there for years. *He came back to take advantage of
the NHS when his health began to fail and has never shown any remorse for
what he did.
He still has quite a lot of sentence to serve if I remember rightly so let
him serve it. If it means he dies in prison, so be it.
Myra Hindley was not released when she was dying of cancer, so why should
Ronnie Biggs be?

Tina

I am in agreement with you, my sentiments exactly.

Judith

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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

snip

My own opinion? Ronnie took part in a robbery for his own personal gain
and someone died because of his greed. He then escaped to South America
and lived the life of Riley there for years. He came back to take
advantage of the NHS when his health began to fail and has never shown any
remorse for what he did.
He still has quite a lot of sentence to serve if I remember rightly so let
him serve it. If it means he dies in prison, so be it.
Myra Hindley was not released when she was dying of cancer, so why should
Ronnie Biggs be?


Leaving aside the fact that Biggs's offence was by no means equivalent to
Hindley's, the main difference is that the parole board recommended Biggs
release.

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"BAC" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

snip

My own opinion? Ronnie took part in a robbery for his own personal gain
and someone died because of his greed. He then escaped to South America
and lived the life of Riley there for years. He came back to take
advantage of the NHS when his health began to fail and has never shown
any remorse for what he did.
He still has quite a lot of sentence to serve if I remember rightly so
let him serve it. If it means he dies in prison, so be it.
Myra Hindley was not released when she was dying of cancer, so why should
Ronnie Biggs be?


Leaving aside the fact that Biggs's offence was by no means equivalent to
Hindley's, the main difference is that the parole board recommended Biggs
release.

Killing someone is still killing!

Why is it that the government have for many years been pushing towards lighter sentences for criminals? Is it because all those caught fiddling their expenses expect to get off scott free? Ronald Biggs was nothing in comparison.

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"alan.holmes" wrote in message
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"BAC" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

snip

My own opinion? Ronnie took part in a robbery for his own personal
gain and someone died because of his greed. He then escaped to South
America and lived the life of Riley there for years. He came back to
take advantage of the NHS when his health began to fail and has never
shown any remorse for what he did.
He still has quite a lot of sentence to serve if I remember rightly so
let him serve it. If it means he dies in prison, so be it.
Myra Hindley was not released when she was dying of cancer, so why
should Ronnie Biggs be?


Leaving aside the fact that Biggs's offence was by no means equivalent to
Hindley's, the main difference is that the parole board recommended Biggs
release.

Killing someone is still killing!

Maybe so, but none of the Great Train Robbers were convicted and sentenced
for murder or manslaughter, but for robbery. Hindley was convicted and
sentenced for her part in the deliberate and premeditated abduction, torture
and murder of several children, which is hardly the same.

The parole board took the view that 'releasing' the very ill Biggs (to die
in a care home rather than a prison) would not have posed any significant
threat to the public. Since our justice system incorporates institutions
like courts and parole boards to take decisions on our behalf, it doesn't
make much sense to have politicians over-rule them, either for political
effect, or to 'punish' a person for a 'crime' with which he was never
charged.

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"Bigal" wrote in message
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BAC;856663 Wrote:
"Christina Websell" wrote in message

...-
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snip
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My own opinion? Ronnie took part in a robbery for his own personal
gain
and someone died because of his greed. He then escaped to South
America
and lived the life of Riley there for years. He came back to take
advantage of the NHS when his health began to fail and has never shown
any
remorse for what he did.
He still has quite a lot of sentence to serve if I remember rightly so
let
him serve it. If it means he dies in prison, so be it.
Myra Hindley was not released when she was dying of cancer, so why
should
Ronnie Biggs be?
-

Leaving aside the fact that Biggs's offence was by no means equivalent
to
Hindley's, the main difference is that the parole board recommended
Biggs
release.

Why is it that the government have for many years been pushing towards
lighter sentences for criminals? Is it because all those caught
fiddling their expenses expect to get off scott free? Ronald Biggs
was nothing in comparison.


Could it be that we're running out of space in our prisons?