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Pathogens in Horse dung? Please advise what and any scientific papers that
back it up. I know it is a big carrier of Tetanus but not heard about
anything else of concern.


Try anthrax.


And the Hendra Virus which is extremely virulent.

But I use lots of horse manure and I don't bother composting it at all.


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And the Hendra Virus which is extremely virulent.


Grin :-)

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/m...ages/nipah.htm

"The natural reservoir for Hendra virus is thought to be flying foxes"

"Only three human cases of Hendra virus disease have been recognized."


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And the Hendra Virus which is extremely virulent.


Grin :-)


Yep

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/m...ages/nipah.htm

"The natural reservoir for Hendra virus is thought to be flying foxes"


Hmmmm CDC. An American site.

I wonder who it was that wrote:
"A lot of such rubbish is written by Merkins, who manage to make
Little Englanders look intelligent. You need to be able to judge
which authors have Clue and which don't." ;-P

But since you quote the CDC, their article also says "humans became ill
after exposure to body fluids and excretions of horses infected with Hendra
virus"

"Only three human cases of Hendra virus disease have been recognized."


At last count, three people have died of Hendra Virus.







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Hmmmm CDC. An American site.

I wonder who it was that wrote:
"A lot of such rubbish is written by Merkins, who manage to make
Little Englanders look intelligent. You need to be able to judge
which authors have Clue and which don't." ;-P


I did. The CDC is a respected organisation, which doesn't mean that
its pronouncements are gospel. The Merkins I was referring to are
a different class of Web-making pest, as undesirable as RSM.

At last count, three people have died of Hendra Virus.


Let's all start panicking now :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Do many people in the UK show signs of "Mad Cow Disease"?



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Some certainly have queer ways. :-((

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Wild Billy wrote:

Do many people in the UK show signs of "Mad Cow Disease"?


No, and they never did, although it was a tragedy for those families who
lost loved ones.

It was just one of those hyped-up extraordinarily rare diseases which
"professors" who should know better (but obviously didn't) pontificated
about in a purely self-publicising manner. The main pathogenic effect of
MCD was to sell newspapers.

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Jeff Layman wrote:
Wild Billy wrote:

Do many people in the UK show signs of "Mad Cow Disease"?


No, and they never did, although it was a tragedy for those families who
lost loved ones.

It was just one of those hyped-up extraordinarily rare diseases which
"professors" who should know better (but obviously didn't) pontificated
about in a purely self-publicising manner. The main pathogenic effect of
MCD was to sell newspapers.


That's utter tripe - to make an awful pun!

The government had covered it up for so long, and its properties were
such, that the 'worst plausible' scenario was that it would become
the dominating cause of death in the UK and reduce the national life
expectancy by a decade or more. Yes, THAT bad.

And, precisely because of its properties, it wasn't possible to
refine the estimates of its seriousness for several years. Nobody
knew whether it would be negligible (as it seems to be) or approach
the 'worst plausible' scenario. Even now, we aren't quite certain
that it won't become a hundred times more serious than it is at
present, though it is unlikely.

Furthermore, such a disease had been predicted by the government's
scientific advisors, who repeatedly refused to support relaxing
the animal feed processing regulations. The Whitehall mandarins
then replaced them by a more docile (and possibly more ignorant)
set, relaxed the regulations and created a new disease.


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At last count, three people have died of Hendra Virus.


Let's all start panicking now :-)


Edwina Curry was right all the time :-)

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At last count, three people have died of Hendra Virus.


Let's all start panicking now :-)


Edwina Curry was right all the time :-)



About John Major?

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
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At last count, three people have died of Hendra Virus.


Let's all start panicking now :-)


Edwina Curry was right all the time :-)


What she said was very probably technically correct at the time, hard to
get the evidence and the farming lobby really didn't like it.

They did clean up their act after egg sales plummeted.

Worse things happened in Belgium in 1999 when their government
deliberately hid massive national contamination of chicken feed with
dioxins and PCBS from waste transformer oil. Dodgy feed merchants
cutting corners and a quality control system that was "industry
friendly" and corrupt at the highest levels.

http://www.ping.be/chlorophiles/en/com/en_di_egg.html

The whistleblower who worked for an insurance company dealing with
mysterious chicken deaths was punished for doing his job correctly.
Shoot the messenger!

Luckily our chickens lived on grain and whatever they could scratch out
of the ground. But eggs and chicken disappeared from supermarkets
overnight when the story finally broke. I can't recall if any of the
culprits were forced to resign but in Belgium it is highly unlikely.

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Hmmmm CDC. An American site.

I wonder who it was that wrote:
"A lot of such rubbish is written by Merkins, who manage to make
Little Englanders look intelligent. You need to be able to judge
which authors have Clue and which don't." ;-P


I did. The CDC is a respected organisation, which doesn't mean that
its pronouncements are gospel.


Indeed. And I thought the CDC was a very strange choice of site given that
the disease has not ever been in the US.

The Merkins I was referring to are
a different class of Web-making pest, as undesirable as RSM.


Some American can be very severe pains in the posterior but then so are some
of every nationality.

At last count, three people have died of Hendra Virus.


Let's all start panicking now :-)


That is 100% death rate if you believe your cite of the CDC. Even Ebola is
not that lethal.


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In article ,
FarmI ask@itshall be given wrote:

At last count, three people have died of Hendra Virus.


Let's all start panicking now :-)


That is 100% death rate if you believe your cite of the CDC. Even Ebola is
not that lethal.


As I said, the appropriate analysis is game theory. The cost of getting
the Hendra Virus is death, but the probability of doing so is almost
zero.


Regards,
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In article ,
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And the Hendra Virus which is extremely virulent.


Grin :-)

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/m...ages/nipah.htm

"The natural reservoir for Hendra virus is thought to be flying foxes"

"Only three human cases of Hendra virus disease have been recognized."


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Hendra virus (formerly called equine morbillivirus) is a member of the
family Paramyxoviridae.
Nipah virus, also a member of the family Paramyxoviridae, is related but
not identical to Hendra virus.

Funny, when I read this page, it says,"Two of the three human patients
infected with Hendra virus died (Australia). During the Nipah virus
disease outbreak in 1998-99 (Malaysia and Singapore), 257 patients were
infected with the virus. About 40% of those patients who entered
hospitals with serious nervous disease died from the illness."
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now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of
conception until death." - Rachel Carson

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