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Rob 22-07-2009 10:31 AM

Pruning a young tree
 
I bought a cherry tree (not the fruit kind) in a supermarket a few
months ago, and plonked it in my small yard against a fence by lifting a
couple of the block paving stones. It's not exactly shaded, but only
gets about three hours of direct sun a day.

It seems to have taken fine, with lots of leaves on the two 'side'
branches. The problem is the central branch which seems to have gone out
of control. It's just keeps reaching for the sky, and has probably grown
4 inches in the past week. There's lots of little branch and leaf
activity, but it's all hanging off a very spindly centre branch. I've
supported this centre branch by tying it to a bamboo cane, but now it's
gone beyond the 5 foot cane on its spindly ascent, and is lops over to
one side. The other branches are about 2 feet below the the tip, on a
tree that's about 6 feet high.

I looked on the RHS web site, and they seem to say 'don't prune the
centre branch'.

Any ideas please? I am so obviously not a gardener, but i've quite taken
to this creation of mine.

Thanks, Rob

K 22-07-2009 04:31 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
Rob writes
I bought a cherry tree (not the fruit kind) in a supermarket a few
months ago, and plonked it in my small yard against a fence by lifting
a couple of the block paving stones. It's not exactly shaded, but only
gets about three hours of direct sun a day.

It seems to have taken fine, with lots of leaves on the two 'side'
branches. The problem is the central branch which seems to have gone
out of control. It's just keeps reaching for the sky, and has probably
grown 4 inches in the past week. There's lots of little branch and leaf
activity, but it's all hanging off a very spindly centre branch. I've
supported this centre branch by tying it to a bamboo cane, but now it's
gone beyond the 5 foot cane on its spindly ascent, and is lops over to
one side. The other branches are about 2 feet below the the tip, on a
tree that's about 6 feet high.

I looked on the RHS web site, and they seem to say 'don't prune the
centre branch'.

Pruning cherries is a bit dodgy as they are susceptible to disease
entering through the cut ends.

I'd be inclined to leave it to its own devices. It will slowly thicken
up, and straighten as it thickens, so you will always have a floppy bit
at the top, but the floppy bit will start higher and higher up each
year.

--
Kay

Sacha[_4_] 22-07-2009 05:24 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
On 2009-07-22 10:31:45 +0100, Rob said:

I bought a cherry tree (not the fruit kind) in a supermarket a few
months ago, and plonked it in my small yard against a fence by lifting
a couple of the block paving stones. It's not exactly shaded, but only
gets about three hours of direct sun a day.

It seems to have taken fine, with lots of leaves on the two 'side'
branches. The problem is the central branch which seems to have gone
out of control. It's just keeps reaching for the sky, and has probably
grown 4 inches in the past week. There's lots of little branch and leaf
activity, but it's all hanging off a very spindly centre branch. I've
supported this centre branch by tying it to a bamboo cane, but now it's
gone beyond the 5 foot cane on its spindly ascent, and is lops over to
one side. The other branches are about 2 feet below the the tip, on a
tree that's about 6 feet high.

I looked on the RHS web site, and they seem to say 'don't prune the
centre branch'.

Any ideas please? I am so obviously not a gardener, but i've quite
taken to this creation of mine.

Thanks, Rob


Is it a weeping cherry? What name is on the label? If there isn't
one, ask the gc you bought it from if they know. If you do have the
name, someone here may be able to give you some help.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


Emrys Davies 22-07-2009 05:24 PM

Pruning a young tree
 

"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I bought a cherry tree (not the fruit kind) in a supermarket a few
months ago, and plonked it in my small yard against a fence by lifting

a
couple of the block paving stones. It's not exactly shaded, but only
gets about three hours of direct sun a day.

It seems to have taken fine, with lots of leaves on the two 'side'
branches. The problem is the central branch which seems to have gone

out
of control. It's just keeps reaching for the sky, and has probably

grown
4 inches in the past week. There's lots of little branch and leaf
activity, but it's all hanging off a very spindly centre branch. I've
supported this centre branch by tying it to a bamboo cane, but now

it's
gone beyond the 5 foot cane on its spindly ascent, and is lops over to
one side. The other branches are about 2 feet below the the tip, on a
tree that's about 6 feet high.

I looked on the RHS web site, and they seem to say 'don't prune the
centre branch'.

Any ideas please? I am so obviously not a gardener, but i've quite

taken
to this creation of mine.

Thanks, Rob


You need to think quite seriously about having such a tree in a small
yard because, if it is a Japanese cherry blossom tree, it will
eventually grow quite large and become a nuisance. Its rooting system
may also become very troublesome. Try and establish its species and
variety so that we can be more specific.



'Mike'[_4_] 22-07-2009 05:27 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-07-22 10:31:45 +0100, Rob said:

I bought a cherry tree (not the fruit kind) in a supermarket a few months
ago, and plonked it in my small yard against a fence by lifting a couple
of the block paving stones. It's not exactly shaded, but only gets about
three hours of direct sun a day.

It seems to have taken fine, with lots of leaves on the two 'side'
branches. The problem is the central branch which seems to have gone out
of control. It's just keeps reaching for the sky, and has probably grown
4 inches in the past week. There's lots of little branch and leaf
activity, but it's all hanging off a very spindly centre branch. I've
supported this centre branch by tying it to a bamboo cane, but now it's
gone beyond the 5 foot cane on its spindly ascent, and is lops over to
one side. The other branches are about 2 feet below the the tip, on a
tree that's about 6 feet high.

I looked on the RHS web site, and they seem to say 'don't prune the
centre branch'.

Any ideas please? I am so obviously not a gardener, but i've quite taken
to this creation of mine.

Thanks, Rob


Is it a weeping cherry? What name is on the label? If there isn't one,
ask the gc you bought it from if they know. If you do have the name,
someone here may be able to give you some help.
--
Sacha


If it is a Winter Flowering Cherry, mind how and WHEN you prune it.

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



Rob 22-07-2009 06:38 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
Rob wrote:
I bought a cherry tree (not the fruit kind) in a supermarket a few
months ago, and plonked it in my small yard against a fence by lifting a
couple of the block paving stones. It's not exactly shaded, but only
gets about three hours of direct sun a day.

It seems to have taken fine, with lots of leaves on the two 'side'
branches. The problem is the central branch which seems to have gone out
of control. It's just keeps reaching for the sky, and has probably grown
4 inches in the past week. There's lots of little branch and leaf
activity, but it's all hanging off a very spindly centre branch. I've
supported this centre branch by tying it to a bamboo cane, but now it's
gone beyond the 5 foot cane on its spindly ascent, and is lops over to
one side. The other branches are about 2 feet below the the tip, on a
tree that's about 6 feet high.

I looked on the RHS web site, and they seem to say 'don't prune the
centre branch'.

Any ideas please? I am so obviously not a gardener, but i've quite taken
to this creation of mine.

Thanks, Rob


Many thanks for the replies. Seems I hadn't thought this through ;-)

Tree type - I really don't know - it was from Aldi for a fiver, and I've
thrown the label away. I'm pretty sure it just said 'cherry tree' with a
picture of a tree with that pink blossom. It had a black tiny beetle
infestation early on, accompanied by ants. I saw that off with systemic
insecticide and greased paper around the trunk.

Placement - it gets worse. It's about a 2 feet from a substantial 10
foot wall/bank down the to the house below. My plan was to just keep it
at about 7/8 feet, with a misplaced notion that the roots wouldn't do
anything spectacular. Thing is, there are lots of trees along the
boundary line of other houses. Trees without substantial route systems I
suspect.

Looks like an uprooting is in order? Some pics:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tree

On this showing a good job I don't have children. Or pets. Or clothes
that need ironing. Etc.

Rob

K 22-07-2009 07:00 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
Rob writes
Tree type - I really don't know - it was from Aldi for a fiver, and
I've thrown the label away. I'm pretty sure it just said 'cherry tree'
with a picture of a tree with that pink blossom. It had a black tiny
beetle infestation early on, accompanied by ants. I saw that off with
systemic insecticide and greased paper around the trunk.

Placement - it gets worse. It's about a 2 feet from a substantial 10
foot wall/bank down the to the house below. My plan was to just keep it
at about 7/8 feet, with a misplaced notion that the roots wouldn't do
anything spectacular. Thing is, there are lots of trees along the
boundary line of other houses. Trees without substantial route systems
I suspect.

Looks like an uprooting is in order? Some pics:


Just because something will eventually get too big doesn't mean to say
you have to uproot it straight away. You can always enjoy it for a few
years then get rid of it.

But I would be a bit worried about that retaining wall, and I'd want to
make sure the roots couldn't start damaging that - hopefully others will
be able to advise you on creating a barrier, or replanting the whole
thing in a buried container.

--
Kay

Sacha[_4_] 22-07-2009 10:58 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
On 2009-07-22 19:00:31 +0100, K said:

Rob writes
Tree type - I really don't know - it was from Aldi for a fiver, and
I've thrown the label away. I'm pretty sure it just said 'cherry tree'
with a picture of a tree with that pink blossom. It had a black tiny
beetle infestation early on, accompanied by ants. I saw that off with
systemic insecticide and greased paper around the trunk.

Placement - it gets worse. It's about a 2 feet from a substantial 10
foot wall/bank down the to the house below. My plan was to just keep it
at about 7/8 feet, with a misplaced notion that the roots wouldn't do
anything spectacular. Thing is, there are lots of trees along the
boundary line of other houses. Trees without substantial route systems
I suspect.

Looks like an uprooting is in order? Some pics:


Just because something will eventually get too big doesn't mean to say
you have to uproot it straight away. You can always enjoy it for a few
years then get rid of it.

But I would be a bit worried about that retaining wall, and I'd want to
make sure the roots couldn't start damaging that - hopefully others
will be able to advise you on creating a barrier, or replanting the
whole thing in a buried container.


I hate the idea of a tree being in the wrong place, enjoyed for a few
years and then cut down. I'm afraid that one looks (to me) like one
that I'd pot up and give to someone as a present! In its place I'd
suggest a Sarcococca or Daphne for winter scent and not taking up root
room.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


K 23-07-2009 02:36 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
Sacha writes

I hate the idea of a tree being in the wrong place, enjoyed for a few
years and then cut down.


I can never see why its any worse than taking a whole row of trees and
keeping them permanently pruned to a uniform 6 ft ;-)

--
Kay

Sacha[_4_] 23-07-2009 02:54 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
On 2009-07-23 14:36:27 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes

I hate the idea of a tree being in the wrong place, enjoyed for a few
years and then cut down.


I can never see why its any worse than taking a whole row of trees and
keeping them permanently pruned to a uniform 6 ft ;-)


But those are still living! And don't get me onto leylandii... ;-))
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


K 23-07-2009 03:48 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
Sacha writes
On 2009-07-23 14:36:27 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes

I hate the idea of a tree being in the wrong place, enjoyed for a
few years and then cut down.

I can never see why its any worse than taking a whole row of trees
and keeping them permanently pruned to a uniform 6 ft ;-)


But those are still living! And don't get me onto leylandii... ;-))


But being tortured! ;-)
--
Kay

Sacha[_4_] 23-07-2009 04:41 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
On 2009-07-23 15:48:06 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes
On 2009-07-23 14:36:27 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes

I hate the idea of a tree being in the wrong place, enjoyed for a few
years and then cut down.
I can never see why its any worse than taking a whole row of trees
and keeping them permanently pruned to a uniform 6 ft ;-)


But those are still living! And don't get me onto leylandii... ;-))


But being tortured! ;-)


So it's death or torture, eh? Tough choice!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


'Mike'[_4_] 23-07-2009 04:43 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-07-23 15:48:06 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes
On 2009-07-23 14:36:27 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes

I hate the idea of a tree being in the wrong place, enjoyed for a few
years and then cut down.
I can never see why its any worse than taking a whole row of trees
and keeping them permanently pruned to a uniform 6 ft ;-)

But those are still living! And don't get me onto leylandii... ;-))


But being tortured! ;-)


So it's death or torture, eh? Tough choice!
--
Sacha



So you don't do any pruning don't you?

How odd!! Most people do!!!!

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



K 23-07-2009 05:13 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
Sacha writes
On 2009-07-23 15:48:06 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes
On 2009-07-23 14:36:27 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes

I hate the idea of a tree being in the wrong place, enjoyed for a
years and then cut down.
I can never see why its any worse than taking a whole row of
trees and keeping them permanently pruned to a uniform 6 ft ;-)
But those are still living! And don't get me onto leylandii...
;-))

But being tortured! ;-)


So it's death or torture, eh? Tough choice!


Well, I inflict both on my trees :-)
--
Kay

Sacha[_4_] 23-07-2009 06:32 PM

Pruning a young tree
 
On 2009-07-23 17:13:22 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes
On 2009-07-23 15:48:06 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes
On 2009-07-23 14:36:27 +0100, K said:

Sacha writes

I hate the idea of a tree being in the wrong place, enjoyed for a years
and then cut down.
I can never see why its any worse than taking a whole row of trees
and keeping them permanently pruned to a uniform 6 ft ;-)
But those are still living! And don't get me onto leylandii... ;-))
But being tortured! ;-)


So it's death or torture, eh? Tough choice!


Well, I inflict both on my trees :-)


But with torture there's always the chance they'll let you live! ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon



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