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Dave Hill 15-08-2009 03:48 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week www.horticultureweek.co.uk 14th August

Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
Hubbard introduced commercial biological control in the 1960’s
building on his own experiments and with the help ob Lee Valley
horticultural station.
His correspondence with Russian botanists led MI5 to briefly suspect
him of spying after they mistook the use of horticultural terms for
code
Growing up on his family nursery in Essex, he entered the industry in
1948 at the age of 16 as a grower of salad crops.
Today he owns Hill House Nursery in Landscove, Devon which he runs
jointly with his son.
The firm crops more than 2000 varieties os nursery stock and Hubbard
has wone acclaim as a breeder and plant finder. Notable achievements
include Plectranthus cilatus ‘Sasha’, Phormium ‘Lord Jersey’,
Crocosmia ‘Krakatoa’, Dianthus ‘Old mother Hubbard’ and Nemesia
‘Bluebird’, which has sold more than 11 million plants, bred under
licence worldwide.
During his 60 year career he has only been away from horticulture to
complete his National service, during which he built an English
country garden for the officers mess in Egyptian Saraha Desert.

Jack Sidders Horticulture Week
14th August 2009

'Mike'[_4_] 15-08-2009 03:55 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

.................................................. .............................................

Well done

It's wonderful when a person's achievements are recognised. Had a wonderful
write up years back in the Hotel and Caterer magazine about my father. Makes
very good reading and proud to be related :-))

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



Ophelia[_4_] 15-08-2009 04:51 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
Dave Hill wrote:
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
Hubbard introduced commercial biological control in the 1960’s
building on his own experiments and with the help ob Lee Valley
horticultural station.
His correspondence with Russian botanists led MI5 to briefly suspect
him of spying after they mistook the use of horticultural terms for
code
Growing up on his family nursery in Essex, he entered the industry in
1948 at the age of 16 as a grower of salad crops.
Today he owns Hill House Nursery in Landscove, Devon which he runs
jointly with his son.
The firm crops more than 2000 varieties os nursery stock and Hubbard
has wone acclaim as a breeder and plant finder. Notable achievements
include Plectranthus cilatus ‘Sasha’, Phormium ‘Lord Jersey’,
Crocosmia ‘Krakatoa’, Dianthus ‘Old mother Hubbard’ and Nemesia
‘Bluebird’, which has sold more than 11 million plants, bred under
licence worldwide.
During his 60 year career he has only been away from horticulture to
complete his National service, during which he built an English
country garden for the officers mess in Egyptian Saraha Desert.

Jack Sidders Horticulture Week
14th August 2009


*APPLAUSE*



'Mike'[_4_] 15-08-2009 04:57 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

*APPLAUSE*


Yes I agree That's JUST how I felt when I read the article about my father
in the Hotel and Caterer Magazine :-)))

Superb to be recognised, as my father was :-))

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



graham 15-08-2009 05:08 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 

"Dave Hill" wrote in message During his 60
year career he has only been away from horticulture to
complete his National service, during which he built an English
country garden for the officers mess in Egyptian Saraha Desert.

---------------------------------------------------
I missed out on National Service but one of my uni lecturers told me that a
few days before demob, he was ordered to plant tulip bulbs in a display at
the barracks. As there were two colours, he planted them to spell "Balls to
the C.O".
Graham



'Mike'[_4_] 15-08-2009 05:13 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk
"graham" wrote in message
...

"Dave Hill" wrote in message During his 60
year career he has only been away from horticulture to
complete his National service, during which he built an English
country garden for the officers mess in Egyptian Saraha Desert.

---------------------------------------------------
I missed out on National Service but one of my uni lecturers told me that
a few days before demob, he was ordered to plant tulip bulbs in a display
at the barracks. As there were two colours, he planted them to spell
"Balls to the C.O".
Graham


Terribly old story which comes from the time when there were German
Prisoners of War seconded to such as Gardening. The story there is of course
the Bulbs being planted to read "Heil Hitler"

Somewhat similar to the story of someone who has a friend whose neighbour's
milkman used to deliver to someone who was ripped off by a supermarket
pushing the prices of his supplier down and down and down until he went
bust!! But nobody ever actually 'knows' who it happened to.

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?



'Mike'[_4_] 15-08-2009 07:48 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-15 15:48:31 +0100, Dave Hill
said:

This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
snip


That was very sweet of you, Dave! Ray's had a good 60 years and been
lucky to work at something he loves every day of his working life - except
maybe National Service. ;-))
--

Sacha


My father had a wonderful write up, but he missed Military Service because
he was doing vital war work.

National Service was a wonderful experience and should be brought back

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



Fuschia[_3_] 15-08-2009 09:01 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:48:31 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
wrote:

This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
Hubbard introduced commercial biological control in the 1960’s
building on his own experiments and with the help ob Lee Valley
horticultural station.
His correspondence with Russian botanists led MI5 to briefly suspect
him of spying after they mistook the use of horticultural terms for
code
Growing up on his family nursery in Essex, he entered the industry in
1948 at the age of 16 as a grower of salad crops.
Today he owns Hill House Nursery in Landscove, Devon which he runs
jointly with his son.
The firm crops more than 2000 varieties os nursery stock and Hubbard
has wone acclaim as a breeder and plant finder. Notable achievements
include Plectranthus cilatus ‘Sasha’, Phormium ‘Lord Jersey’,
Crocosmia ‘Krakatoa’, Dianthus ‘Old mother Hubbard’ and Nemesia
‘Bluebird’, which has sold more than 11 million plants, bred under
licence worldwide.
During his 60 year career he has only been away from horticulture to
complete his National service, during which he built an English
country garden for the officers mess in Egyptian Saraha Desert.

Jack Sidders Horticulture Week
14th August 2009


What a wonderful story that is. A long, successful career and still
quietly and modestly enjoying it.
Such a refresshing change for sad old men living on stories of lies,
imagination and other peoples' achievements.

'Mike'[_4_] 15-08-2009 09:04 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Fuschia" wrote in message
...

What a wonderful story that is. A long, successful career and still
quietly and modestly enjoying it.
Such a refresshing change for sad old men living on stories of lies,
imagination and other peoples' achievements.



Quite agree, but sad old women as well. They live off what bed they have
climbed into!!

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



mark 15-08-2009 09:40 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

.................................................. ............................................

Well done

It's wonderful when a person's achievements are recognised. Had a
wonderful write up years back in the Hotel and Caterer magazine about my
father. Makes very good reading and proud to be related :-))

--



I'm sure he was wonderful but I must respectfully point out that this thread
isn't about your father.
It's about a gardener in a gardening newsgroup. Do you see the connection?

mark



Dave Hill 15-08-2009 10:25 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On 15 Aug, 21:40, "mark" wrote:
"'Mike'" wrote in message

...

"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August


.................................................. ..........................*...................


Well done


It's wonderful when a person's achievements are recognised. Had a
wonderful write up years back in the Hotel and Caterer magazine about my
father. Makes very good reading and proud to be related :-))


--


I'm sure he was wonderful but I must respectfully point out that this thread
isn't about your father.
It's about a gardener in a gardening newsgroup. Do you see the connection?

mark


Mike, I'm sure you're very proud of your father but he is not the
topic of this thread despite your repeated posting, why dont you post
your item with relivent article under your own heading.
Many of us are proud of our fathers achievments, my father was in the
RFA and was in 2nd world war had 2 tankers he was captain off sunk
under him in less than 1 year in the north sea, was in the Korean war
on tankers, was on amunition ship for Suez and was also involved in
Christmas Island Tests.
But this thread is about Raymond Hubbard, lets keep it that way.

David Hill

'Mike'[_4_] 16-08-2009 06:51 AM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...

Many of us are proud of our fathers achievments, my father was in the
RFA and was in 2nd world war had 2 tankers he was captain off sunk
under him in less than 1 year in the north sea, was in the Korean war
on tankers, was on amunition ship for Suez and was also involved in
Christmas Island Tests.

.................................................. .....................................

Some achievement. Were the RFA Ships crewed by the Chinese at that time as
well?

Ammunition ships didn't stand much of a chance if they were hit :-((

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



Fuschia[_3_] 16-08-2009 10:54 AM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:30:08 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-08-15 21:01:11 +0100, Fuschia said:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:48:31 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
wrote:

This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
Hubbard introduced commercial biological control in the 1960’s
building on his own experiments and with the help ob Lee Valley
horticultural station.
His correspondence with Russian botanists led MI5 to briefly suspect
him of spying after they mistook the use of horticultural terms for
code
Growing up on his family nursery in Essex, he entered the industry in
1948 at the age of 16 as a grower of salad crops.
Today he owns Hill House Nursery in Landscove, Devon which he runs
jointly with his son.
The firm crops more than 2000 varieties os nursery stock and Hubbard
has wone acclaim as a breeder and plant finder. Notable achievements
include Plectranthus cilatus ‘Sasha’, Phormium ‘Lord Jersey’,
Crocosmia ‘Krakatoa’, Dianthus ‘Old mother Hubbard’ and Nemesia
‘Bluebird’, which has sold more than 11 million plants, bred under
licence worldwide.
During his 60 year career he has only been away from horticulture to
complete his National service, during which he built an English
country garden for the officers mess in Egyptian Saraha Desert.

Jack Sidders Horticulture Week
14th August 2009


What a wonderful story that is. A long, successful career and still
quietly and modestly enjoying it.


Thanks for those kind remarks. He's worked hard and non-stop all his
life and still does, every day, at 76, rarely taking a day off. I know
that e.g. Charlie, Dave Hill and Dave Poole, other nurserymen here, do
or did the same. We've met them all at various times and it's a
fascination to me - the novice and newcomer - to hear the stories!
It's a hard life, physically, but for those that love it, it seems
there's no choice!

Such a refresshing change for sad old men living on stories of lies,
imagination and other peoples' achievements.


It's a source of great pride to me to be married to such a man who is
admired in his own profession, liked and admired by many and makes no
fanfare about it and is never boastful.


In spite of all we hear in the news, there are still many really good
people around. They just keep their heads down and get on with useful,
productive lives. They have no need to make a fuss.

"Empty vessels make the most sound"

Des Higgins 16-08-2009 11:58 AM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Aug 15, 4:57*pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
"Ophelia" wrote in message

...



*APPLAUSE*


Yes I agree That's JUST how I felt when I read the article about my father
in the Hotel and Caterer Magazine :-)))

Superb to be recognised, as my father was :-))

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Associationwww.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk


Mike: this thread was about the person named in the subject line. I
never knew any of this and I do not really know Sacha or her husband
but it was interesting to know this. You really do come across as a
sad old git sometimes.

With kindest possible regards
Des



Sapper73 16-08-2009 03:02 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:48:33 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-15 15:48:31 +0100, Dave Hill
said:

This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
snip


That was very sweet of you, Dave! Ray's had a good 60 years and been
lucky to work at something he loves every day of his working life - except
maybe National Service. ;-))
--

Sacha


My father had a wonderful write up, but he missed Military Service because
he was doing vital war work.


If your father could see how you behave here he would be ashamed of
you.

National Service was a wonderful experience and should be brought back


It doesnt seem to have done much good for you. Grow up man.

Sapper73 16-08-2009 03:04 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:04:46 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

"Fuschia" wrote in message
.. .

What a wonderful story that is. A long, successful career and still
quietly and modestly enjoying it.
Such a refresshing change for sad old men living on stories of lies,
imagination and other peoples' achievements.



Quite agree, but sad old women as well. They live off what bed they have
climbed into!!


You are a coward.

'Mike'[_4_] 16-08-2009 06:21 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Sacha" wrote in message
...

You are a coward.


Oh certainly. That's why the majority of his attacks are on women.
Inadequate men usually behave like that.

--
Sacha


Sascha you say the nicest things about me, ............. behind someone
else's postings :-))

Kindest possible regards

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



Sapper73 16-08-2009 07:08 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:21:36 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...

You are a coward.


Oh certainly. That's why the majority of his attacks are on women.
Inadequate men usually behave like that.

--
Sacha


Sascha you say the nicest things about me, ............. behind someone
else's postings :-))


If you had a shred of decency you would apologise to her for the
remark you made. You are not just a coward but a disgrace to our
generation.With your age and experience you are supposed to set an
example of manners and behaviour. If you had spoken like that in our
mess about a lady that we knew you would have been taken outside and
thrashed.

Ophelia[_4_] 16-08-2009 07:12 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
Sapper73 wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:21:36 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...

You are a coward.

Oh certainly. That's why the majority of his attacks are on women.
Inadequate men usually behave like that.

--
Sacha


Sascha you say the nicest things about me, ............. behind
someone else's postings :-))


If you had a shred of decency you would apologise to her for the
remark you made. You are not just a coward but a disgrace to our
generation.With your age and experience you are supposed to set an
example of manners and behaviour. If you had spoken like that in our
mess about a lady that we knew you would have been taken outside and
thrashed.


That one would never have been allowed in!



'Mike'[_4_] 16-08-2009 07:26 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Ophelia" wrote in message
...
Sapper73 wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:21:36 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...

You are a coward.

Oh certainly. That's why the majority of his attacks are on women.
Inadequate men usually behave like that.

--
Sacha

Sascha you say the nicest things about me, ............. behind
someone else's postings :-))


If you had a shred of decency you would apologise to her for the
remark you made. You are not just a coward but a disgrace to our
generation.With your age and experience you are supposed to set an
example of manners and behaviour. If you had spoken like that in our
mess about a lady that we knew you would have been taken outside and
thrashed.


That one would never have been allowed in!


This HERO worship of me is really appreciated.

Thank you ALL so much

Kindest possible regards to you all my friends

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



'Mike'[_4_] 17-08-2009 06:38 AM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
Unreserved apology

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk
"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-16 18:21:36 +0100, "'Mike'" said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...

You are a coward.

Oh certainly. That's why the majority of his attacks are on women.
Inadequate men usually behave like that.

--
Sacha


Sascha you say the nicest things about me, ............. behind someone
else's postings :-))

Kindest possible regards


Then I'll say it to your face. Get a grip on this Mike because I've had
enough of your filthy innuendo. I own a house of my own in which a member
of our family lives and I have an income of my own and live off nobody.
You need to watch your words. Closely.
My husband has made a success of his life by working hard and not
snivelling about Mrs Thatcher (your favourite blame layer) or anyone else.
He's never, ever, not once, expected anyone else to take the flak for his
actions or decisions. He's a real man. The only time I've seen him
genuinely angry is when someone was rude to me. My husband being over
6', an ex-Para and boxer, the other wimp took off pretty swiftly.
He's overcome considerable personal adversity in the shape of the deaths
of the people closest to him, both while he was very young and then later
in life and still, he has gone on, supporting his family, loved and
respected by everyone who knows him. As his wife, I don't just love him
for all the wonderful qualities he has, I admire and respect him
enormously.

We've been married for 9 years and have known each other for 10 - not once
in all those years have I *ever* heard the gentleman I married refer to
women as you do. He would rather die than stoop so low. Nothing would
persuade him to lower himself to your level.

He worked hard and deserves everything he has now. What he does not
deserve is to see you insinuate that a woman married him just to get a
meal ticket.

So, finally, Crowe, I challenge you. Come here to our home and speak to
my husband about me and him as you do here. I'll even pay your fare. I
want to see you here, in this place, our home, talking to my husband
about me as you do in this group and I will continue to challenge you to
do so until you lay off both of us once and for all. You will NOT
diminish my husband, his work or our marriage any further, believe me.
Two years ago I told you I'd send a letter to your family if this
continued and its draft is still on my desktop. Apologise for that
calumny upon my character or come here to do so or that letter goes. Time
runs out tomorrow night.

You talk a lot so let's drop the talk and see some action from you here in
front of me and my husband. Set a date. Now. Be here. OR apologise for
the implication that I married my husband for bed and board. Your choice
and it runs out tomorrow night. After that a letter goes to your family.
I've had enough of you.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon




'Mike'[_4_] 17-08-2009 09:27 AM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-17 06:38:00 +0100, "'Mike'" said:

Unreserved apology


Thank you. I would suggest that you now ignore my posts unless you have
relevant gardening information to add.
--
Sacha


and may I also respectfully suggest that your derogatory statements to the
group, directed about and towards me, also stop.

Kindest possible regards

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



'Mike'[_4_] 17-08-2009 09:53 AM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-17 09:27:09 +0100, "'Mike'" said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-17 06:38:00 +0100, "'Mike'"
said:

Unreserved apology

Thank you. I would suggest that you now ignore my posts unless you have
relevant gardening information to add.
--
Sacha


and may I also respectfully suggest that your derogatory statements to
the
group, directed about and towards me, also stop.

Kindest possible regards


If you continue to insult and belittle others, including me, you'll get an
appropriate response. If you try to drag the group into e.g.your holiday
plans, your daughter's cars/house/fishpond, your father's former career
etc. by boasting as you do, you'll get laughed at. This post of yours
should have been directed to the group as a whole because your trolling
here has made you a laughing stock and/or put you in dozens of kill files.
Your problems cause you to behave like that and are not mine.
--
Sacha



Thank you for your kind words

Kindest possible regards

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



Sapper73 17-08-2009 11:54 AM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:53:10 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-17 09:27:09 +0100, "'Mike'" said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-17 06:38:00 +0100, "'Mike'"
said:

Unreserved apology

Thank you. I would suggest that you now ignore my posts unless you have
relevant gardening information to add.
--
Sacha

and may I also respectfully suggest that your derogatory statements to
the
group, directed about and towards me, also stop.

Kindest possible regards


If you continue to insult and belittle others, including me, you'll get an
appropriate response. If you try to drag the group into e.g.your holiday
plans, your daughter's cars/house/fishpond, your father's former career
etc. by boasting as you do, you'll get laughed at. This post of yours
should have been directed to the group as a whole because your trolling
here has made you a laughing stock and/or put you in dozens of kill files.
Your problems cause you to behave like that and are not mine.
--
Sacha



Thank you for your kind words

Kindest possible regards


Well done for the apology old chap.
Now you both need to drop it before another one is needed.

BAC 17-08-2009 12:33 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 

"Sapper73" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:53:10 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-17 09:27:09 +0100, "'Mike'"
said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-17 06:38:00 +0100, "'Mike'"
said:

Unreserved apology

Thank you. I would suggest that you now ignore my posts unless you
have
relevant gardening information to add.
--
Sacha

and may I also respectfully suggest that your derogatory statements to
the
group, directed about and towards me, also stop.

Kindest possible regards

If you continue to insult and belittle others, including me, you'll get
an
appropriate response. If you try to drag the group into e.g.your
holiday
plans, your daughter's cars/house/fishpond, your father's former career
etc. by boasting as you do, you'll get laughed at. This post of yours
should have been directed to the group as a whole because your trolling
here has made you a laughing stock and/or put you in dozens of kill
files.
Your problems cause you to behave like that and are not mine.
--
Sacha



Thank you for your kind words

Kindest possible regards


Well done for the apology old chap.
Now you both need to drop it before another one is needed.


But they've been carrying on like Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd for absolute
ages, so they must enjoy it. Why spoil their fun?



Judith in France 17-08-2009 02:44 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Aug 15, 3:48*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
Hubbard introduced commercial biological control in the 1960’s
building on his own experiments and with the help ob Lee Valley
horticultural station.
His correspondence with Russian botanists led MI5 to briefly suspect
him of spying after they mistook the use of horticultural terms for
code
Growing up on his family nursery in Essex, he entered the industry in
1948 at the age of 16 as a grower of salad crops.
Today he owns Hill House Nursery in Landscove, Devon which he runs
jointly with his son.
The firm crops more than 2000 varieties os nursery stock and Hubbard
has wone acclaim as a breeder and plant finder. Notable achievements
include Plectranthus cilatus ‘Sasha’, Phormium ‘Lord Jersey’,
Crocosmia ‘Krakatoa’, Dianthus ‘Old mother Hubbard’ and Nemesia
‘Bluebird’, which has sold more than 11 million plants, bred under
licence worldwide.
During his 60 year career he has only been away from horticulture to
complete his National service, during which he built an English
country garden for the officers mess in Egyptian Saraha Desert.

Jack Sidders *Horticulture Week
14th August 2009


I've come a bit late to this so belated warm congratulations to Ray
and also to Sacha, although the business is managed by Ray and his
son, Matthew; Sacha is, I know, a huge support to them. I had the
pleasure of meeting Ray's sister, sadly now deceased; she spoke so
warmly and lovingly of her brother and how happy she was that he found
happiness with Sacha. Well done to Ray, no wonder Sacha is so proud
of him.

Judith

alan.holmes 17-08-2009 02:44 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2009-08-15 15:48:31 +0100, Dave Hill
said:

This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
snip


That was very sweet of you, Dave! Ray's had a good 60 years and been
lucky to work at something he loves every day of his working life - except
maybe National Service. ;-))



National service changed my life completely and forever, not that I enjoyed
it particularly, but there I met a fellow who introduced me to electronics,
and if it wasn't for him, I would not be able to annoy you all in these
newsgroups!(:-)

Alan



alan.holmes 17-08-2009 02:46 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 

"Sapper73" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:04:46 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

"Fuschia" wrote in message
. ..

What a wonderful story that is. A long, successful career and still
quietly and modestly enjoying it.
Such a refresshing change for sad old men living on stories of lies,
imagination and other peoples' achievements.



Quite agree, but sad old women as well. They live off what bed they have
climbed into!!


You are a coward.


And you should go back to the asylum!




'Mike'[_4_] 17-08-2009 02:50 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"alan.holmes" wrote in message
...


That was very sweet of you, Dave! Ray's had a good 60 years and been
lucky to work at something he loves every day of his working life -
except maybe National Service. ;-))



National service changed my life completely and forever, not that I
enjoyed it particularly, but there I met a fellow who introduced me to
electronics, and if it wasn't for him, I would not be able to annoy you
all in these newsgroups!(:-)

Alan



National Service did a hell of a lot of people a hell of a lot of good and
it should be brought back

--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk



mark 17-08-2009 04:36 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
"alan.holmes" wrote in message
...


That was very sweet of you, Dave! Ray's had a good 60 years and been
lucky to work at something he loves every day of his working life -
except maybe National Service. ;-))



National service changed my life completely and forever, not that I
enjoyed it particularly, but there I met a fellow who introduced me to
electronics, and if it wasn't for him, I would not be able to annoy you
all in these newsgroups!(:-)

Alan



National Service did a hell of a lot of people a hell of a lot of good and
it should be brought back

Why?

mark



Cat(h) 17-08-2009 05:19 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Aug 15, 7:49*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-08-15 16:51:54 +0100, "Ophelia" said:

Dave Hill wrote:
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August


Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
snip

*APPLAUSE*


Thank you! *I'll pass that on!
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


I *love* the story about being suspected of spying because botanical
jargon was mistaken for code by MI5 - it makes for a supremely cool
dinnertime conversation piece today, but I wonder how traumatic the
whole thing was at the time?
Anyway, well done to your husband - nice write up.

Caít()

Cat(h) 17-08-2009 05:31 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Aug 17, 5:28*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-08-17 17:19:52 +0100, "Cat(h)" said:





On Aug 15, 7:49*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-08-15 16:51:54 +0100, "Ophelia" said:


Dave Hill wrote:
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August


Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
snip
*APPLAUSE*


Thank you! *I'll pass that on!
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


I *love* the story about being suspected of spying because botanical
jargon was mistaken for code by MI5 - it makes for a supremely cool
dinnertime conversation piece today, but I wonder how traumatic the
whole thing was at the time?
Anyway, well done to your husband - nice write up.


Caít()


Thanks, Cat, I'll pass that on. *The spying thing was very funny and I
don't think it worried him too much at the time - he's a bit too
laidback for that. *;-)) * He was exchanging telegrams with
horticultural experts on the use of e.g. encarsia and several telegrams
sometimes came and went in a day. *The local postmistress in their
small Essex village was so excited about receiving telegrams from
Russia that she used to deliver each one herself. *I think it was quite
a brief episode and of course, he knew nothing about it until it was
over. *But I do love the idea of my husband as a kind of horticultural
007. *;-))


Fighting his arch rival Gold Tuber....


:-)
Caít()

Rod[_1_] 19-08-2009 06:26 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 


"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August

Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
Hubbard introduced commercial biological control in the 1960’s
building on his own experiments and with the help ob Lee Valley
horticultural station.
His correspondence with Russian botanists led MI5 to briefly suspect
him of spying after they mistook the use of horticultural terms for
code
Growing up on his family nursery in Essex, he entered the industry in
1948 at the age of 16 as a grower of salad crops.
Today he owns Hill House Nursery in Landscove, Devon which he runs
jointly with his son.
The firm crops more than 2000 varieties os nursery stock and Hubbard
has wone acclaim as a breeder and plant finder. Notable achievements
include Plectranthus cilatus ‘Sasha’, Phormium ‘Lord Jersey’,
Crocosmia ‘Krakatoa’, Dianthus ‘Old mother Hubbard’ and Nemesia
‘Bluebird’, which has sold more than 11 million plants, bred under
licence worldwide.
During his 60 year career he has only been away from horticulture to
complete his National service, during which he built an English
country garden for the officers mess in Egyptian Saraha Desert.

Jack Sidders Horticulture Week
14th August 2009

I'm a bit late in on this, but my warmest congrats to Ray. It's great
in these times when 'talking the talk' is all that seems to matter to
see recognition of someone who 'walks the walk'

--
Rod

My real address is



Judith in France 19-08-2009 10:42 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Aug 19, 9:46*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-08-19 18:26:11 +0100, "Rod" said:



"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August


Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
snip
I'm a bit late in on this, but my warmest congrats to Ray. It's great
in these times when 'talking the talk' is all that seems to matter to
see recognition of someone who 'walks the walk'


That's really kind of you, Rod. *He's very touched to have heard of
congrats from people he's never met but who love gardening, too. *;-) *
Actually, he's done a very few, small telly bits and on one local show
he wore a rather distinctive jersey. *A few days later, he was mildly
flattered when a woman came up to him in a local shop and said "Oh, I
saw you on tv the other night". *Before he could be seriously overcome
with this evidence of fame, she continued "I didn't recognise you but I
knew the sweater". *;-))
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


Just tuning in tonight, I'm off to bed in a few minutes and I will be
moving to the North side of the house. Phew, we have had 40 plus here
for days, I am sure the well will run dry, I am watering twice a day,
well I'm not as I am bit under the weather, but Edward is and
friends. Welcome home Sacha, I hope the garden you and Ray looked
at; is a work in progress? Your Ray is needed here, Chez Moi, when
are you both coming? Lets take it to email?

Jxx

FarmI 20-08-2009 04:47 AM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
"Judith in France" wrote in message

we have had 40 plus here
for days, I am sure the well will run dry, I am watering twice a day,


It's OK to water pot plants twice a day but make sure that the same area
isn't watered twice a day because all you are doing is encouraging shallow
rooting.

In temps like that, you need to water infrequently, deeply and mulch, mulch
and mulch.



Judith in France 20-08-2009 12:58 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Aug 19, 11:24*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-08-19 22:42:48 +0100, Judith in France
said:



On Aug 19, 9:46*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-08-19 18:26:11 +0100, "Rod" said:


"Dave Hill" wrote in message
....
This is a transcription of an item in Horticulture Week 14th August


Plant breeder, horticultural pioneer, one time MI5 suspect and owner
of Hill House Nursery Raymond Hubbard is celebrating 60 years in
horticulture this year.
snip
I'm a bit late in on this, but my warmest congrats to Ray. It's great
in these times when 'talking the talk' is all that seems to matter to
see recognition of someone who 'walks the walk'


That's really kind of you, Rod. *He's very touched to have heard of
congrats from people he's never met but who love gardening, too. *;-)

*
Actually, he's done a very few, small telly bits and on one local show
he wore a rather distinctive jersey. *A few days later, he was mildly
flattered when a woman came up to him in a local shop and said "Oh, I
saw you on tv the other night". *Before he could be seriously overcome
with this evidence of fame, she continued "I didn't recognise you but I
knew the sweater". *;-))
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


Just tuning in tonight, I'm off to bed in a few minutes and I will be
moving to the North side of the house. *Phew, we have had 40 plus here
for days, I am sure the well will run dry, I am watering twice a day,
well I'm not as I am bit under the weather, but Edward is and
friends. *Welcome home Sacha, I hope the garden you and Ray looked
at; *is a work in progress?


Too early to tell yet but it will be lovely to do if it's decided upon.
*It's a lovely old garden that needs some renovation and it would be a
joy to bring it back up to full strength.
It was very sunny and hot in Jersey, especially today when we were told
26C was expected. *I never did look to see if it actually happened but
Derek might be able to tell us. *Sitting out on a terrace before lunch
today my arms started to tan much more, though years ago I was told by
a doctor friend that the hole in Appleton's layer accounts for some of
that. *Derek might know about that, too. *I've never worried too much
about it having been born and grown up in the CIs, I just took what was
coming. * Landing back in Exeter tonight we have sticky and hot - the
sea breezes of the CIs have a lot to recommend them, IMO!

*Your Ray is needed here, Chez Moi, when
are you both coming? *Lets take it to email?


Jxx


Not this year, I fear - we seem to be getting increasingly booked up
until Christmas, though in a very nice way!
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon


I haven't been to the CI for some time but loved Guernsey and Sark, I
wonder if it has changed? I look forward to a few pics of the garden
in due course?

Judith

Hugh Jampton 20-08-2009 09:38 PM

Raymond |Hubbard
 
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:05:10 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Guernsey has changed a bit over the years but not half as much as
Jersey. Sark has changed very little, really.


Went to the CI in the late 70's - sailing with my friend in his yacht.
Didn't like Jersey much. Alderney and Guernsey were fine. Sark was
*wonderful*. One of those great moments in my life - I could have stayed
there forever :-)

Also found a little island called Iles Chausey. Fine but the pub closed
when the last ferry left for Granville :-( Anchored off there for the night
and left the next morning for the sail back to Ramsgate.

Memories :-)
--
Regards,

Hugh Jampton


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