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bob wrote in message ... http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg I think this is a Euphorbia which I only know as '4 by 4'. Does it have a white sap if you snapped a piece off? mark http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-2.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-3.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-4.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-5.jpg ?? |
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"mark" wrote in message o.uk... bob wrote in message ... http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg I think this is a Euphorbia which I only know as '4 by 4'. Does it have a white sap if you snapped a piece off? mark I'll go with Euphorbia lathyris mark |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:04:20 +0100, "mark"
wrote: bob wrote in message ... http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg I think this is a Euphorbia which I only know as '4 by 4'. Does it have a white sap if you snapped a piece off? mark that's the one - yes. Thanks! http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-2.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-3.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-4.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-5.jpg ?? |
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bob wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:04:20 +0100, "mark" wrote: bob wrote in message ... http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg I think this is a Euphorbia which I only know as '4 by 4'. Does it have a white sap if you snapped a piece off? mark that's the one - yes. Thanks! http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-2.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-3.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-4.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-5.jpg ?? 24-8-4 This looks very much to me like Japanese Knotwwed. If this is the case you had better dispose of it quick!!!! |
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bob wrote in message ... http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-2.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-3.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-4.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-5.jpg ?? These are only guesses, but here goes: 24-8-1 - Euphorbia lathyrus (Mole plant) 24-8-2 - Brunnera (not sure which one, maybe macrophylla) 24-8-3 - unknown, need to see flower 24-8-4 - Japanese knotweed has been suggested, but could also be Pokeberry (Phytolacca styraciflua) 24-8-5 - some Begonia or other someone |
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JonC writes
bob wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:04:20 +0100, "mark" wrote: bob wrote in message ... http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg I think this is a Euphorbia which I only know as '4 by 4'. Does it have a white sap if you snapped a piece off? mark Yes, definitely Euphorbia lathyrus (caper spurge - but don't try using the fruits instead of capers, they're poisonous) http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-2.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-3.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-4.jpg http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-5.jpg ?? 24-8-4 This looks very much to me like Japanese Knotwwed. If this is the case you had better dispose of it quick!!!! No, definitely not Japanese knotweed, which has spade-shaped leaves - the leaf bases are not rounded like this. It could be the related Persicaria wallichii, Himalayan knotweed. -- Kay |
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On 2009-08-25 18:55:17 +0100, bob said:
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg Euphorbia - the one often known as the mole plant because it's said to keep moles away. It doesn't! Seeds itself all over the place. aka caper spurge. http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-2.jpg Don't know but it's a wild flower or weed (depending on your pov) ;-) http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-3.jpg Don't know but it made me think of an Aralia of some sort. http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-4.jpg A balsam? http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-5.jpg Begonia foliosa, perhaps? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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thanks to all for input. I'll be taking a look at some pics on line
to see how these compare... I've previous experience of Euphorbia and I remember it became rampant. I think it might have to go. |
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On 2009-08-26 12:07:17 +0100, bob said:
thanks to all for input. I'll be taking a look at some pics on line to see how these compare... I've previous experience of Euphorbia and I remember it became rampant. I think it might have to go. There are other *much* more beautiful and interesting forms such as E.mellifera, which has a lovely scent and E. polychroma just to name two and depending a bit on where your garden is as to warmth, frost, shelter, etc. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:02:57 +0100, Sacha wrote:
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg Euphorbia - the one often known as the mole plant because it's said to keep moles away. It doesn't! Seeds itself all over the place. aka caper spurge. I may be wrong but if so, so is Bob Flowerdew. He said that the sap was used to rub on moles on the skin. Don't know if that works either. Pam in Bristol |
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#2 Brunnera [probably the basic form, macrophylla, which has forget-me-not like flowers in spring, and is a self-seeding thug] #3 Possibly the native avens, usually a weed. A flower would help to identify it properly, Also what the plant looks like at soil level. #4 Certainly a form of knotweed, and since the flowers are white, probably the notorious Japanese form. #5 A begonia, but which will take a lot of searching. There are hundreds. |
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On 26 Aug, 14:31, Pam Moore wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:02:57 +0100, Sacha wrote: http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg Euphorbia - the one often known as the mole plant because it's said to keep moles away. *It doesn't! *Seeds itself all over the place. aka caper spurge. I may be wrong but if so, so is Bob Flowerdew. *He said that the sap was used to rub on moles on the skin. Don't know if that works either. Pam in Bristol http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-4.jpg It's Poke berry, http://earthcaretaker.com/nativeplan...pokeberry.html it's nothing like Jap. knotweed http://www.dgsgardening.btinternet.co.uk/japknot.htm David Hill |
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On 2009-08-26 14:31:57 +0100, Pam Moore said:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:02:57 +0100, Sacha wrote: http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-1.jpg Euphorbia - the one often known as the mole plant because it's said to keep moles away. It doesn't! Seeds itself all over the place. aka caper spurge. I may be wrong but if so, so is Bob Flowerdew. He said that the sap was used to rub on moles on the skin. Don't know if that works either. Pam in Bristol Really? The sap irritates the skin in a lot of people. But then that could be the point - it irritates warts and moles out of business ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On 2009-08-26 12:07:17 +0100, bob said: thanks to all for input. I'll be taking a look at some pics on line to see how these compare... I've previous experience of Euphorbia and I remember it became rampant. I think it might have to go. Caper spurge is a biennial (or at least it is in Yorkshire). Once it flowers, it dies. There are other *much* more beautiful and interesting forms such as E.mellifera, which has a lovely scent but if you think the others are 'rampant' ....!!! And it self-seeds everywhere. -- Kay |
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On 2009-08-26 21:36:39 +0100, echinosum
said: 'Charlie Pridham[_2_ Wrote: ;http://tinyurl.com/md282s [/i][/color] Looks like Campsis radicans [/i][/color] Well spotted. It didn't occur to me, but now you've said it , I can see it looks precisely like it.[/i][/color] Same here. I must try lateral thinking. Of course now Charlie has said it and looking more closely at the top growth, I can see it. snip -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On 2009-08-26 17:51:16 +0100, K said:
Sacha writes On 2009-08-26 12:07:17 +0100, bob said: thanks to all for input. I'll be taking a look at some pics on line to see how these compare... I've previous experience of Euphorbia and I remember it became rampant. I think it might have to go. Caper spurge is a biennial (or at least it is in Yorkshire). Once it flowers, it dies. There are other *much* more beautiful and interesting forms such as E.mellifera, which has a lovely scent but if you think the others are 'rampant' ....!!! And it self-seeds everywhere. Well now that's v. interesting because while ours has certainly self-seeded, we only have about 4 plants as a result of that. And we do have one quite large stand of E. mellifera which gives plenty of opportunity! Perhaps it has something to do with soil or position. OTOH, I'm forever pulling out caper spurge. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:15:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-08-26 12:07:17 +0100, bob said: thanks to all for input. I'll be taking a look at some pics on line to see how these compare... I've previous experience of Euphorbia and I remember it became rampant. I think it might have to go. There are other *much* more beautiful and interesting forms such as E.mellifera, which has a lovely scent and E. polychroma just to name two and depending a bit on where your garden is as to warmth, frost, shelter, etc. I'll definitely check those out - thanks for the tip! |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:56:43 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote: http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-3.jpg Looks like Campsis radicans http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-5.jpg Looks like a begonia, possibly grandis Good - thanks for those. Re the Campsis - I've only just twigged, there's a mature one of these flowering in my garden right now a few feet away but this tiny thing, only just come to my notice this year, hasn't flowered so far. I didn't recognise it. Is this a safe time to move it to another spot in the garden? |
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bob wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:56:43 +0100, Charlie Pridham wrote: http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-3.jpg Looks like Campsis radicans http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/v...ser/24-8-5.jpg Looks like a begonia, possibly grandis Good - thanks for those. Re the Campsis - I've only just twigged, there's a mature one of these flowering in my garden right now a few feet away but this tiny thing, only just come to my notice this year, hasn't flowered so far. I didn't recognise it. Is this a safe time to move it to another spot in the garden? They seem to sulk a bit whenever you move them, but eventually recover. It's a good plant to pot up for charity plant sales. But the fact that this one has appeared a few feet from the parent should start the warning flags flying. It is invasive, and spreads many feet from the main plant, even pushing up in the gaps between paving stones. -- Jeff |
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:36:34 +0100, "Jeff Layman"
wrote: Re the Campsis - I've only just twigged, there's a mature one of these flowering in my garden right now a few feet away but this tiny thing, only just come to my notice this year, hasn't flowered so far. I didn't recognise it. Is this a safe time to move it to another spot in the garden? They seem to sulk a bit whenever you move them, but eventually recover. It's a good plant to pot up for charity plant sales. But the fact that this one has appeared a few feet from the parent should start the warning flags flying. It is invasive, and spreads many feet from the main plant, even pushing up in the gaps between paving stones. Cripes, I hadn't thought of that! But maybe I understated the "few". I'd say (guessing because I'm in the uk - garden in France) there's 6 feet of concrete followed by another 6 feet of earth between the two. Could it have such a wide root system? |
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In article , bob says...
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:36:34 +0100, "Jeff Layman" wrote: Re the Campsis - I've only just twigged, there's a mature one of these flowering in my garden right now a few feet away but this tiny thing, only just come to my notice this year, hasn't flowered so far. I didn't recognise it. Is this a safe time to move it to another spot in the garden? They seem to sulk a bit whenever you move them, but eventually recover. It's a good plant to pot up for charity plant sales. But the fact that this one has appeared a few feet from the parent should start the warning flags flying. It is invasive, and spreads many feet from the main plant, even pushing up in the gaps between paving stones. Cripes, I hadn't thought of that! But maybe I understated the "few". I'd say (guessing because I'm in the uk - garden in France) there's 6 feet of concrete followed by another 6 feet of earth between the two. Could it have such a wide root system? Yes! especially if the roots get damaged due to cold, digging or mice!! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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bob wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:36:34 +0100, "Jeff Layman" wrote: Re the Campsis - I've only just twigged, there's a mature one of these flowering in my garden right now a few feet away but this tiny thing, only just come to my notice this year, hasn't flowered so far. I didn't recognise it. Is this a safe time to move it to another spot in the garden? They seem to sulk a bit whenever you move them, but eventually recover. It's a good plant to pot up for charity plant sales. But the fact that this one has appeared a few feet from the parent should start the warning flags flying. It is invasive, and spreads many feet from the main plant, even pushing up in the gaps between paving stones. Cripes, I hadn't thought of that! But maybe I understated the "few". I'd say (guessing because I'm in the uk - garden in France) there's 6 feet of concrete followed by another 6 feet of earth between the two. Could it have such a wide root system? As Charlie has said, it can easily span that distance. I am surprised that this is not mentioned by gardening books, which are quick to point out that, eg, Rhus typhina spreads underground and is liable to pop up all over the place. In my limited experience, Campsis is not dissimilar. -- Jeff |
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:21:30 +0100, "Jeff Layman"
wrote: bob wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:36:34 +0100, "Jeff Layman" wrote: Re the Campsis - I've only just twigged, there's a mature one of these flowering in my garden right now a few feet away but this tiny thing, only just come to my notice this year, hasn't flowered so far. I didn't recognise it. Is this a safe time to move it to another spot in the garden? They seem to sulk a bit whenever you move them, but eventually recover. It's a good plant to pot up for charity plant sales. But the fact that this one has appeared a few feet from the parent should start the warning flags flying. It is invasive, and spreads many feet from the main plant, even pushing up in the gaps between paving stones. Cripes, I hadn't thought of that! But maybe I understated the "few". I'd say (guessing because I'm in the uk - garden in France) there's 6 feet of concrete followed by another 6 feet of earth between the two. Could it have such a wide root system? As Charlie has said, it can easily span that distance. I am surprised that this is not mentioned by gardening books, which are quick to point out that, eg, Rhus typhina spreads underground and is liable to pop up all over the place. In my limited experience, Campsis is not dissimilar. Ok, well, thanks for the cautionary note. I'll just have to keep vigilant and pull them up as needs be. If they break through the concrete I'll have to think again. |
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