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Did I mis-hear this? It's being moved to 10.30 for the next 4 weeks.
Autumnwatch is moving to 8.30. This is NOT a good omen for GW, it seems to me. I think Toby & co. are doing their real best and all know their stuff. But something isn't right in the direction the programme is taking. Oh dear. It makes me feel that the linchpins of GW are struggling against the odds of the big splashy visits that the producers think will pull in viewers. None of their gardening feels real any more. It's such a shame but I do hope this move to 10.30 (10.30!!) doesn't mark the beginning of the end. I fear it does. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On 23 Oct, 23:11, Sacha wrote:
Did I mis-hear this? *It's being moved to 10.30 for the next 4 weeks. * Autumnwatch is moving to 8.30. *This is NOT a good omen for GW, it seems to me. *I think Toby & co. are doing their real best and all know their stuff. *But something isn't right in the direction the programme is taking. *Oh dear. It makes me feel that the linchpins of GW are struggling against the odds of the big splashy visits that the producers think will pull in viewers. *None of their gardening feels real any more. *It's such a shame but I do hope this move to 10.30 (10.30!!) doesn't mark the beginning of the end. *I fear it does. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon I think that this "Team" are the worst thing to happen to GW, the sooner they are dispersed and that farce of a garden is got rid off the better for the Prog. The way they have thrown monney at the garden has made it so detached from what the viewer can afford is a discrace David Hill. |
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"Dave Hill" wrote in message ... On 23 Oct, 23:11, Sacha wrote: Did I mis-hear this? It's being moved to 10.30 for the next 4 weeks. Autumnwatch is moving to 8.30. This is NOT a good omen for GW, it seems to me. I think Toby & co. are doing their real best and all know their stuff. But something isn't right in the direction the programme is taking. Oh dear. It makes me feel that the linchpins of GW are struggling against the odds of the big splashy visits that the producers think will pull in viewers. None of their gardening feels real any more. It's such a shame but I do hope this move to 10.30 (10.30!!) doesn't mark the beginning of the end. I fear it does. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon I think that this "Team" are the worst thing to happen to GW, the sooner they are dispersed and that farce of a garden is got rid off the better for the Prog. The way they have thrown monney at the garden has made it so detached from what the viewer can afford is a discrace David Hill. .................................................. ..................... as for Sascha's worry about it moving for four weeks, as I understand it they will only be repeats or highlights and as the programme/series was so bad, who cares if it is shifted to 3.30 in the morning? -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
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On 2009-10-24 10:03:54 +0100, Dave Hill said:
On 23 Oct, 23:11, Sacha wrote: Did I mis-hear this? *It's being moved to 10.30 for the next 4 weeks. * Autumnwatch is moving to 8.30. *This is NOT a good omen for GW, it seems to me. *I think Toby & co. are doing their real best and all know their stuff. *But something isn't right in the direction the programme is taking. *Oh dear. It makes me feel that the linchpins of GW are struggling against the odds of the big splashy visits that the producers think will pull in viewers. *None of their gardening feels real any more. *It's such a shame but I do hope this move to 10.30 (10.30!!) doesn't mark the beginning of the end. *I fear it does. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon I think that this "Team" are the worst thing to happen to GW, the sooner they are dispersed and that farce of a garden is got rid off the better for the Prog. The way they have thrown monney at the garden has made it so detached from what the viewer can afford is a discrace David Hill. The trouble is that we just don't really know whose fault all this is. The presenters are undoubtedly knowledgeable gardeners but having so many of them makes the whole thing rather 'choppy' - there's no concentration on anything for more than a minute, or so it feels. But is this a directive from on high at the BBC about making gardening 'trendy', or is it the director's idea - or what? Last night's wander off to two enormous gardens with several skilled gardeners made me think of the irritation of the Chelsea coverage. Instead of concentrating on the job in hand, they go all pc and take us off to see people growing chilis in old welly boots or something. If they want a programme on allotments or the great gardens of Britain, heaven knows there are enough of those to make an entire series, interviewing owners or Curators and Head Gardeners about their work and the development of the gardens. It could be fascinating. But shoving such things into a teaching programme like GW is just annoying, IMO. Those thousands of tulips made even me get horticultural indigestion and I love tulips. All I know is that just when we get hopeful about an improvement, it seems to take two steps back again. I agree about throwing money at the garden and feel this is part of the 'trendy' thing. Most people who garden, do so either alone, or as a pair and on a low budget, especially nowadays. If they're aiming the programme at those who *can* afford to spend big bucks, my guess is that those aren't the people who will watch GW anyway. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-10-24 10:03:54 +0100, Dave Hill said: On 23 Oct, 23:11, Sacha wrote: Did I mis-hear this? It's being moved to 10.30 for the next 4 weeks. Autumnwatch is moving to 8.30. This is NOT a good omen for GW, it seems to me. I think Toby & co. are doing their real best and all know their stuff. But something isn't right in the direction the programme is taking. Oh dear. It makes me feel that the linchpins of GW are struggling against the odds of the big splashy visits that the producers think will pull in viewers. None of their gardening feels real any more. It's such a shame but I do hope this move to 10.30 (10.30!!) doesn't mark the beginning of the end. I fear it does. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon I think that this "Team" are the worst thing to happen to GW, the sooner they are dispersed and that farce of a garden is got rid off the better for the Prog. The way they have thrown monney at the garden has made it so detached from what the viewer can afford is a discrace David Hill. The trouble is that we just don't really know whose fault all this is. The presenters are undoubtedly knowledgeable gardeners but having so many of them makes the whole thing rather 'choppy' - there's no concentration on anything for more than a minute, or so it feels. But is this a directive from on high at the BBC about making gardening 'trendy', or is it the director's idea - or what? Last night's wander off to two enormous gardens with several skilled gardeners made me think of the irritation of the Chelsea coverage. Instead of concentrating on the job in hand, they go all pc and take us off to see people growing chilis in old welly boots or something. If they want a programme on allotments or the great gardens of Britain, heaven knows there are enough of those to make an entire series, interviewing owners or Curators and Head Gardeners about their work and the development of the gardens. It could be fascinating. But shoving such things into a teaching programme like GW is just annoying, IMO. Those thousands of tulips made even me get horticultural indigestion and I love tulips. All I know is that just when we get hopeful about an improvement, it seems to take two steps back again. I agree about throwing money at the garden and feel this is part of the 'trendy' thing. Most people who garden, do so either alone, or as a pair and on a low budget, especially nowadays. If they're aiming the programme at those who *can* afford to spend big bucks, my guess is that those aren't the people who will watch GW anyway. -- Sacha Why watch it if it is so bad? I don't like football and think it is just 22 men kicking a bag of wind about, but I would NEVER dream of watching a game and then moan about it!!! -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
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The trouble is that we just don't really know whose fault all this is. The presenters are undoubtedly knowledgeable gardeners but having so many of them makes the whole thing rather 'choppy' - there's no concentration on anything for more than a minute, or so it feels. But is this a directive from on high at the BBC about making gardening 'trendy', or is it the director's idea - or what? Last night's wander off to two enormous gardens with several skilled gardeners made me think of the irritation of the Chelsea coverage. Instead of concentrating on the job in hand, they go all pc and take us off to see people growing chilis in old welly boots or something. If they want a programme on allotments or the great gardens of Britain, heaven knows there are enough of those to make an entire series, interviewing owners or Curators and Head Gardeners about their work and the development of the gardens. It could be fascinating. But shoving such things into a teaching programme like GW is just annoying, IMO. Those thousands of tulips made even me get horticultural indigestion and I love tulips. All I know is that just when we get hopeful about an improvement, it seems to take two steps back again. I agree about throwing money at the garden and feel this is part of the 'trendy' thing. Most people who garden, do so either alone, or as a pair and on a low budget, especially nowadays. If they're aiming the programme at those who *can* afford to spend big bucks, my guess is that those aren't the people who will watch GW anyway. -- Sacha Why watch it if it is so bad? I don't like football and think it is just 22 men kicking a bag of wind about, but I would NEVER dream of watching a game and then moan about it!!! -- Mike Again, you miss the point......... if you loved football, was passionate about it and looked forward to see your weekly first class match on TV, would you not feel aggrieved if it was presented in a second-rate disappointing way...... such as, say, frequent and lengthy close-ups of the crowd, or missed goals, or even mid-game interviews with cranky naval electricians who's only sporting knowledge might be underwater amp-volt-ohm juggling. Do you really not see the point raised by Sacha and the others who all want to see their hobby/interest shown.... but want it shown in a first-class interesting way. |
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On 2009-10-24 11:50:44 +0100, Jennifer Sparkes said:
The message from "'Mike'" contains these words: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-10-24 10:03:54 +0100, Dave Hill said: On 23 Oct, 23:11, Sacha wrote: Did I mis-hear this? It's being moved to 10.30 for the next 4 weeks. The trouble is that we just don't really know whose fault all this is. The presenters are undoubtedly knowledgeable gardeners ... Big snip Why watch it if it is so bad? I don't like football and think it is just 22 men kicking a bag of wind about, but I would NEVER dream of watching a game and then moan about it!!! Mike, I think that is a bit different, ie you don't like football but the people moaning about GW do like and are interested in gardening. Jennifer One can hardly compare watching a game one doesn't like, to making constructive cricisms about a teaching programme about something one does like! -- Sacha |
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"vsop" wrote in message ... The trouble is that we just don't really know whose fault all this is. The presenters are undoubtedly knowledgeable gardeners but having so many of them makes the whole thing rather 'choppy' - there's no concentration on anything for more than a minute, or so it feels. But is this a directive from on high at the BBC about making gardening 'trendy', or is it the director's idea - or what? Last night's wander off to two enormous gardens with several skilled gardeners made me think of the irritation of the Chelsea coverage. Instead of concentrating on the job in hand, they go all pc and take us off to see people growing chilis in old welly boots or something. If they want a programme on allotments or the great gardens of Britain, heaven knows there are enough of those to make an entire series, interviewing owners or Curators and Head Gardeners about their work and the development of the gardens. It could be fascinating. But shoving such things into a teaching programme like GW is just annoying, IMO. Those thousands of tulips made even me get horticultural indigestion and I love tulips. All I know is that just when we get hopeful about an improvement, it seems to take two steps back again. I agree about throwing money at the garden and feel this is part of the 'trendy' thing. Most people who garden, do so either alone, or as a pair and on a low budget, especially nowadays. If they're aiming the programme at those who *can* afford to spend big bucks, my guess is that those aren't the people who will watch GW anyway. -- Sacha Why watch it if it is so bad? I don't like football and think it is just 22 men kicking a bag of wind about, but I would NEVER dream of watching a game and then moan about it!!! -- Mike Again, you miss the point......... if you loved football, was passionate about it and looked forward to see your weekly first class match on TV, would you not feel aggrieved if it was presented in a second-rate disappointing way...... such as, say, frequent and lengthy close-ups of the crowd, or missed goals, or even mid-game interviews with cranky naval electricians who's only sporting knowledge might be underwater amp-volt-ohm juggling. Do you really not see the point raised by Sacha and the others who all want to see their hobby/interest shown.... but want it shown in a first-class interesting way. Things in this world are for ever changing. Everything is changing all the time. Live with it and like the change or switch off. My father in his younger days was a Motor Mechanic involved with Brands Hatch racing before the War. I was interested in racing, until the races were won on tactics in the pits as to whether it was a one stop or a two stop race etc etc. I know where the off switch is on the TV If you don't like the change which someone else has made, do your own TV Gardening programme -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
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On 2009-10-24 11:59:33 +0100, "vsop" said:
The trouble is that we just don't really know whose fault all this is. The presenters are undoubtedly knowledgeable gardeners but having so many of them makes the whole thing rather 'choppy' - there's no concentration on anything for more than a minute, or so it feels. snip Sacha Why watch it if it is so bad? I don't like football and think it is just 22 men kicking a bag of wind about, but I would NEVER dream of watching a game and then moan about it!!! -- Mike Again, you miss the point......... if you loved football, was passionate about it and looked forward to see your weekly first class match on TV, would you not feel aggrieved if it was presented in a second-rate disappointing way...... such as, say, frequent and lengthy close-ups of the crowd, or missed goals, or even mid-game interviews with cranky naval electricians who's only sporting knowledge might be underwater amp-volt-ohm juggling. Do you really not see the point raised by Sacha and the others who all want to see their hobby/interest shown.... but want it shown in a first-class interesting way. Bingo! ;-) We're seeing more and more young families coming here to start on a garden or renovate one. They need really good, clear, straightforward information and help. We'll do all we can to help but we're not in their living rooms every Friday evening! -- Sacha |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-10-24 11:50:44 +0100, Jennifer Sparkes said: The message from "'Mike'" contains these words: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-10-24 10:03:54 +0100, Dave Hill said: On 23 Oct, 23:11, Sacha wrote: Did I mis-hear this? It's being moved to 10.30 for the next 4 weeks. The trouble is that we just don't really know whose fault all this is. The presenters are undoubtedly knowledgeable gardeners ... Big snip Why watch it if it is so bad? I don't like football and think it is just 22 men kicking a bag of wind about, but I would NEVER dream of watching a game and then moan about it!!! Mike, I think that is a bit different, ie you don't like football but the people moaning about GW do like and are interested in gardening. Jennifer One can hardly compare watching a game one doesn't like, to making constructive cricisms about a teaching programme about something one does like! -- Sacha Fair comment, so as you have the facilities and you know all the people, start a Gardening Programme to your liking. Chris Denham of Chris Denham Production who does the Rick Stein Programmes on TV is in your neck of the woods. Contact him. Give him my regards when you do. He has my father's 1936 Rover open tourer -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
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On Oct 24, 11:50*am, Jennifer Sparkes wrote:
Big snip Why watch it if it is so bad? I don't like football and think it is just 22 men kicking a bag of wind about, but I would NEVER dream of watching a game and then moan about it!!! Mike, I think that is a bit different, ie you don't like football but the people moaning about GW do like and are interested in gardening. Please don't kick Mike - he's only a bag of wind! |
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On 2009-10-24 11:34:27 +0100, Granity
said: 'Sacha[_4_ Wrote: ;867777']Did I mis-hear this? It's being moved to 10.30 for the next 4 weeks. Autumnwatch is moving to 8.30. This is NOT a good omen for GW, it seems to me. I think Toby & co. are doing their real best and all know their stuff. But something isn't right in the direction the programme is taking. Oh dear. It makes me feel that the linchpins of GW are struggling against the odds of the big splashy visits that the producers think will pull in viewers. None of their gardening feels real any more. It's such a shame but I do hope this move to 10.30 (10.30!!) doesn't mark the beginning of the end. I fear it does. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon It's apparently down to complaints from Autumn watch viewers that it's on too late, so if all the GW viewers complain about it being on too late............................. To be honest, I have much more sympathy with Autumnwatch viewers which are more likely to include children. -- Sacha |
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