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Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used
to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. |
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On Jan 17, 9:57*pm, "Christina Websell"
wrote: Down in the village, a mile and a half away. * It's 1640 sq yards and I used to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) *I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. *Or is it? *There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. *It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. *Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. Tina, you have so many possibilities. If it were me I would go along the line of letting it with crop sharing, how exciting. However, if you went along the Council route, you could ensure that you had a plot marked out for your own use without charge. I'd love to hear how it goes. Judith |
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On 17 Jan, 21:57, "Christina Websell"
wrote: Down in the village, a mile and a half away. * It's 1640 sq yards and I used to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) *I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. *Or is it? *There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. *It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. *Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not guaranteed to stay totally organic if you let them out individually. |
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:57:25 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote: Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. Sounds great, but one caution if you let it out yourself. Insurance! Get that sorted. If you let the council let it, you might lose control of the land. Consult a solicitor! Pam in Bristol |
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"Tommy" wrote in message ... On 17 Jan, 21:57, "Christina Websell" wrote: Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not guaranteed to stay totally organic if you let them out individually. ------ Oh yes, it would be. It would be a condition of tenancy. |
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"countymayo.j" wrote in message ... On Jan 17, 9:57 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. Tina, you have so many possibilities. If it were me I would go along the line of letting it with crop sharing, how exciting. There would be a rent too. As my one lettuce/cauliflower/cabbage/leek a week wouldn't seem enough. I bought this land when my rented land I had my goats on was going to be built on and it cost me half as much as my house at that time. It's time I got something back from it. I had two mortgages. 10 years on the land and 25 years on the house. That was fun. Not. Tina However, if you went along the Council route, you could ensure that you had a plot marked out for your own use without charge. I'd love to hear how it goes. Judith |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. Tina, Have a gander at http://www.nsalg.org.uk/ Quite useful |
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I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There was a thread not so long ago from someone who wanted to let out a large greenhouse as allotments. Although a lot of it is irrelevant, some of the points made in that thread are relevant to your situation. -- Kay |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. There is the 'landshare' initiative where people with land allow people who do not have allotments to use the spare land for growing stuff. This does not generate revenue but it does keep the land in production and should allow you to set your own time limit on the use. Any commercial arrangement is likely to cause you hassle - probably out of proportion to the monetary (real money or 'goods to the value of'') return. Even if you put an 'organic only' clause in an agreement, how are you going to enforce it? How will you detect the use of chemicals? What penalties do you think you can apply? Do you have the free time to pursue such issues? If you have a definite date when you need the land back then tell the council very firmly that this is what you want. They can then decide if the demand for allotments justifies a shorter lease. Cheers Dave R |
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"echinosum" wrote in message ... 'Christina Websell[_2_ Wrote: ;874969']Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not guaranteed to stay totally organic if you let them out individually. ------ Oh yes, it would be. It would be a condition of tenancy. Your difficulty would be in enforcing the condition. Not really. The plotholders who embraced the organic philosophy would grass ;-) Given the difficulty of finding land to grow stuff organically around here, it would not be in anyone's best interest to start spraying chemicals around - they would lose their plot. |
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:57:25 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. Sounds great, but one caution if you let it out yourself. Insurance! Get that sorted. Good idea If you let the council let it, you might lose control of the land. Consult a solicitor! I have no intention of letting the council anywhere near it. As my grandmother used to say "do you see any green in my eye?" Pam in Bristol |
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Christina Websell wrote: I have no intention of letting the council anywhere near it. As my grandmother used to say "do you see any green in my eye?" And what's wrong with green eyes? When I had contact lens overwearing, I discovered that (underneath the brown), my eyes are grass green. It's not exceptional in someone of largely Celtic stock .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-01-17 23:43:34 +0000, "Christina Websell" said: "Tommy" wrote in message ... On 17 Jan, 21:57, "Christina Websell" wrote: Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age. My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is getting away from me. I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with 6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock. Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort! Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has? What does the team think? Tina P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years ago, so it would be totally organic. Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not guaranteed to stay totally organic if you let them out individually. ------ Oh yes, it would be. It would be a condition of tenancy. I suspect the council might refuse permission if they have their beady eyes on it. ;-) Ah, as it happens where I live is a small council, which is overseen by the bigger county one - which I happen to work for, so they could not pull rank on me ;-) It would be unethical for them do so, anyway, and they would know this. Is there nothing you can grow there yourself that won't require constant attention and weeding etc. - mini-Christmas trees?! Aw, no. I fancy the idea of letting others cultivate it and getting a crop share. I just don't have the time, I work 5/7 and the rest is taken up with what I have here. Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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wrote in message ... In article , Christina Websell wrote: I have no intention of letting the council anywhere near it. As my grandmother used to say "do you see any green in my eye?" And what's wrong with green eyes? When I had contact lens overwearing, I discovered that (underneath the brown), my eyes are grass green. It's not exceptional in someone of largely Celtic stock .... I assume she meant green = naive. She also used to say in similar cirumstances "I'm not so green as cabbage-looking." |
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