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RogerT 09-04-2010 10:35 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
I dont have a germination problem, but I planted some in pots along wth
lettuce seeds.

Nothing is mentioned about transplaning the thinings from direct
sowings, so I am wondering if I can trasplant the pot sown seedlings?

No hardship if not, but I'd like to know whether to plant some direct or
transplant.

Thanks

Roger T

[email protected] 10-04-2010 09:19 AM

Rocket seeds again!
 
In article ,
RogerT wrote:
I dont have a germination problem, but I planted some in pots along wth
lettuce seeds.

Nothing is mentioned about transplaning the thinings from direct
sowings, so I am wondering if I can trasplant the pot sown seedlings?

No hardship if not, but I'd like to know whether to plant some direct or
transplant.


They're cruciferae, similar to brassica, so almost certainly.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Compo in Caithness 11-04-2010 10:37 AM

Rocket seeds again!
 
On 9 Apr, 22:35, RogerT wrote:
I dont have a germination problem, but I planted some in pots along wth
lettuce seeds.

Nothing is mentioned about transplaning the thinings from direct
sowings, so I am wondering if I can trasplant the pot sown seedlings?

No hardship if not, but I'd like to know whether to plant some direct or
transplant.

Thanks

Roger T


Yes, I have done it myself occasionally. They will wilt so water well
and keep moist until they recover.

Rusty Hinge[_2_] 18-04-2010 05:09 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
wrote:
In article ,
RogerT wrote:
I dont have a germination problem, but I planted some in pots along wth
lettuce seeds.

Nothing is mentioned about transplaning the thinings from direct
sowings, so I am wondering if I can trasplant the pot sown seedlings?

No hardship if not, but I'd like to know whether to plant some direct or
transplant.


They're cruciferae, similar to brassica, so almost certainly.


Glad you said 'almost' - you shouldn't transplant cauliflowers or you'll
only get tiny curds.

But rocket, I've never heard anything against transplanting that.

--
Rusty

Gopher 18-04-2010 10:22 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
In message , Rusty Hinge
writes
wrote:
In article ,
RogerT wrote:
I dont have a germination problem, but I planted some in pots along wth
lettuce seeds.

Nothing is mentioned about transplaning the thinings from direct
sowings, so I am wondering if I can trasplant the pot sown seedlings?

No hardship if not, but I'd like to know whether to plant some direct or
transplant.

They're cruciferae, similar to brassica, so almost certainly.


Glad you said 'almost' - you shouldn't transplant cauliflowers or
you'll only get tiny curds.

But rocket, I've never heard anything against transplanting that.

Re-talking of rocket - I wonder how Tina's seeds are (or are not)
progressing.......
--
Gopher .... I know my place!

No Name 18-04-2010 11:57 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
Rusty Hinge wrote:
Glad you said 'almost' - you shouldn't transplant cauliflowers or you'll
only get tiny curds.


That may explain a lot. Are you meant to plant seeds in their final growing
spot, then? That sounds ... tricky. I have a tray of caulis waiting to go
out from the greenhouse as soon as I get the chance, but they decided to
coat themselves in greenfly. :-(

Rusty Hinge[_2_] 19-04-2010 11:48 AM

Rocket seeds again!
 
wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:
Glad you said 'almost' - you shouldn't transplant cauliflowers or you'll
only get tiny curds.


That may explain a lot. Are you meant to plant seeds in their final growing
spot, then? That sounds ... tricky. I have a tray of caulis waiting to go
out from the greenhouse as soon as I get the chance, but they decided to
coat themselves in greenfly. :-(


A) Yes, that is the preferred method.

B) you can plant them into pots and when large enough, knock them out
and plant the lot, rooted compost...

Digging them out of a tray 'checks' them, and that's it. Very pleasant
gobbets of cauli result innit.

I could be tempted to use (Shhhh! EC spies might be listening!) the
juice from boiled rhubarb leaves to spray the aphids with.

--
Rusty

No Name 19-04-2010 12:24 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
Rusty Hinge wrote:
A) Yes, that is the preferred method.


I have real trouble getting /anything/ to germinate in our allotment soil!
They just dry up too quickly.

B) you can plant them into pots and when large enough, knock them out
and plant the lot, rooted compost...


Ok. We've mostly been using root trainers, which are good for looooong
roots, but this time the caulis are in a plain flat seed tray. I'll put
them out one day then keep an eye on them and let you know how they go.

I guess individually in paper pots might work, then plant the whole thing.
I tried that with beans last year, but I suffer from my pots going mouldy
before the plants go out, which is ... slimey.

Digging them out of a tray 'checks' them, and that's it. Very pleasant
gobbets of cauli result innit.


Just have to remember to pick them when they're still small and not wait for
them to giant up!

I could be tempted to use (Shhhh! EC spies might be listening!) the
juice from boiled rhubarb leaves to spray the aphids with.


A-ha, I was discussing this with someone yesterday! We both had vague ideas
that there was /something/ I could do with the rhubarb leaves (other than
remembering not to feed it to the chickens!!)!

Mike Lyle 19-04-2010 02:32 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:

[...]

I could be tempted to use (Shhhh! EC spies might be listening!) the
juice from boiled rhubarb leaves to spray the aphids with.


A-ha, I was discussing this with someone yesterday! We both had
vague ideas that there was /something/ I could do with the rhubarb
leaves (other than remembering not to feed it to the chickens!!)!


While we're on the subject, note that EC regs now make it a criminal
offence to water garden plants if one's tap water tests between pH 3.57
and pH 7.92; the potential penalty is a fine of up to 7,000 euro or up
to eighteen months' imprisonment. House plants are exempt pending a
decision of the European Court of Human Rights. The collection of
rainwater is to be banned altogether from 1 July 2010.

--
Mike.



[email protected] 19-04-2010 02:35 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
In article ,
Mike Lyle wrote:
wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:

[...]

I could be tempted to use (Shhhh! EC spies might be listening!) the
juice from boiled rhubarb leaves to spray the aphids with.


A-ha, I was discussing this with someone yesterday! We both had
vague ideas that there was /something/ I could do with the rhubarb
leaves (other than remembering not to feed it to the chickens!!)!


While we're on the subject, note that EC regs now make it a criminal
offence to water garden plants if one's tap water tests between pH 3.57
and pH 7.92; the potential penalty is a fine of up to 7,000 euro or up
to eighteen months' imprisonment. House plants are exempt pending a
decision of the European Court of Human Rights. The collection of
rainwater is to be banned altogether from 1 July 2010.


You're 18 days late.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

No Name 19-04-2010 03:17 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
Mike Lyle wrote:
While we're on the subject, note that EC regs now make it a criminal
offence to water garden plants if one's tap water tests between pH 3.57
and pH 7.92; the potential penalty is a fine of up to 7,000 euro or up
to eighteen months' imprisonment. House plants are exempt pending a
decision of the European Court of Human Rights. The collection of
rainwater is to be banned altogether from 1 July 2010.


.... I beg your pardon?

Jim Jackson 19-04-2010 04:40 PM

Cauliflower planting. (was Rocket seeds again!)
 
Rusty Hinge wrote:
wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:
Glad you said 'almost' - you shouldn't transplant cauliflowers or you'll
only get tiny curds.


That may explain a lot. Are you meant to plant seeds in their final growing
spot, then? That sounds ... tricky. I have a tray of caulis waiting to go
out from the greenhouse as soon as I get the chance, but they decided to
coat themselves in greenfly. :-(


A) Yes, that is the preferred method.


B) you can plant them into pots and when large enough, knock them out
and plant the lot, rooted compost...


Digging them out of a tray 'checks' them, and that's it. Very pleasant
gobbets of cauli result innit.


Just curious how they plant fields of cauli seedlings round here and
produce decent caulis. Or is it different for spring cauli?


Christina Websell[_2_] 19-04-2010 08:40 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 

"Gopher" wrote in message

Re-talking of rocket - I wonder how Tina's seeds are (or are not)
progressing.......
--


Nah, failure. I still have some seeds left and will wait until it's warmer
to sow them again.
Tina
















































































Rusty Hinge[_2_] 19-04-2010 09:04 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
Mike Lyle wrote:
wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:

[...]
I could be tempted to use (Shhhh! EC spies might be listening!) the
juice from boiled rhubarb leaves to spray the aphids with.

A-ha, I was discussing this with someone yesterday! We both had
vague ideas that there was /something/ I could do with the rhubarb
leaves (other than remembering not to feed it to the chickens!!)!


While we're on the subject, note that EC regs now make it a criminal
offence to water garden plants if one's tap water tests between pH 3.57
and pH 7.92; the potential penalty is a fine of up to 7,000 euro or up
to eighteen months' imprisonment. House plants are exempt pending a
decision of the European Court of Human Rights. The collection of
rainwater is to be banned altogether from 1 July 2010.


This is April 1st in the Lylian calendar, yes?

--
Rusty

Rusty Hinge[_2_] 19-04-2010 09:06 PM

Cauliflower planting. (was Rocket seeds again!)
 
Jim Jackson wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:
wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:
Glad you said 'almost' - you shouldn't transplant cauliflowers or you'll
only get tiny curds.
That may explain a lot. Are you meant to plant seeds in their final growing
spot, then? That sounds ... tricky. I have a tray of caulis waiting to go
out from the greenhouse as soon as I get the chance, but they decided to
coat themselves in greenfly. :-(


A) Yes, that is the preferred method.


B) you can plant them into pots and when large enough, knock them out
and plant the lot, rooted compost...


Digging them out of a tray 'checks' them, and that's it. Very pleasant
gobbets of cauli result innit.


Just curious how they plant fields of cauli seedlings round here and
produce decent caulis. Or is it different for spring cauli?


Probably a white variety of broccoli.

Looks like cauli, tastes like cauli, but...

--
Rusty

Mike Lyle 20-04-2010 07:45 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
Rusty Hinge wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:

[...]
I could be tempted to use (Shhhh! EC spies might be listening!) the
juice from boiled rhubarb leaves to spray the aphids with.
A-ha, I was discussing this with someone yesterday! We both had
vague ideas that there was /something/ I could do with the rhubarb
leaves (other than remembering not to feed it to the chickens!!)!


While we're on the subject, note that EC regs now make it a criminal
offence to water garden plants if one's tap water tests between pH
3.57 and pH 7.92; the potential penalty is a fine of up to 7,000
euro or up to eighteen months' imprisonment. House plants are exempt
pending a decision of the European Court of Human Rights. The
collection of rainwater is to be banned altogether from 1 July 2010.


This is April 1st in the Lylian calendar, yes?


You started it...but I admit it seems to me that almost every day is
April 1st.

--
Mike.



Rusty Hinge[_2_] 20-04-2010 08:50 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
Mike Lyle wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:
[...]
I could be tempted to use (Shhhh! EC spies might be listening!) the
juice from boiled rhubarb leaves to spray the aphids with.
A-ha, I was discussing this with someone yesterday! We both had
vague ideas that there was /something/ I could do with the rhubarb
leaves (other than remembering not to feed it to the chickens!!)!
While we're on the subject, note that EC regs now make it a criminal
offence to water garden plants if one's tap water tests between pH
3.57 and pH 7.92; the potential penalty is a fine of up to 7,000
euro or up to eighteen months' imprisonment. House plants are exempt
pending a decision of the European Court of Human Rights. The
collection of rainwater is to be banned altogether from 1 July 2010.

This is April 1st in the Lylian calendar, yes?


You started it...but I admit it seems to me that almost every day is
April 1st.


Just happens to be true - you are not permitted to use unapproved
remedies in the garden.

Like washing-up liquid for washing-off aphids, mixing with herbicide or
insecticide to 'wet' the surfaces, and many old, tried and trusted
preparations just because someone hasn't paid a king's ransom to have
them officiously 'tested'.

You are not permitted to use the wort from boiled rhubarb leaves as an
insecicide.

It is probably illegal to use steeped (and smelly) nettlejuice as a
fertiliser.

And fahsands of other old practices.

I'm just going out to spread the ashes of an incinerated eurocrat...

--
Rusty

Jim Jackson 22-04-2010 02:01 PM

Cauliflower planting. (was Rocket seeds again!)
 
Rusty Hinge wrote:
Glad you said 'almost' - you shouldn't transplant cauliflowers or you'll
only get tiny curds.
That may explain a lot. Are you meant to plant seeds in their final growing
spot, then? That sounds ... tricky. I have a tray of caulis waiting to go
out from the greenhouse as soon as I get the chance, but they decided to
coat themselves in greenfly. :-(


A) Yes, that is the preferred method.


B) you can plant them into pots and when large enough, knock them out
and plant the lot, rooted compost...


Digging them out of a tray 'checks' them, and that's it. Very pleasant
gobbets of cauli result innit.


Just curious how they plant fields of cauli seedlings round here and
produce decent caulis. Or is it different for spring cauli?


Probably a white variety of broccoli.
Looks like cauli, tastes like cauli, but...


Googling spring cauliflower doesn't seem to indicate that. I've always
grown, and transplanted, spring cauli - it rarely has resident
caterpillars! And the longer growing season seems to give better heads.
While I've not grown summer/autumn caulis for a few years, when I did they
were decent heads from transplanted seedlings - just lots of caterpillars!

Mike Lyle 23-04-2010 09:48 PM

Rocket seeds again!
 
Rusty Hinge wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:
[...]
I could be tempted to use (Shhhh! EC spies might be listening!)
the juice from boiled rhubarb leaves to spray the aphids with.
A-ha, I was discussing this with someone yesterday! We both had
vague ideas that there was /something/ I could do with the rhubarb
leaves (other than remembering not to feed it to the chickens!!)!
While we're on the subject, note that EC regs now make it a
criminal offence to water garden plants if one's tap water tests
between pH 3.57 and pH 7.92; the potential penalty is a fine of up
to 7,000
euro or up to eighteen months' imprisonment. House plants are
exempt pending a decision of the European Court of Human Rights.
The collection of rainwater is to be banned altogether from 1 July
2010.
This is April 1st in the Lylian calendar, yes?


You started it...but I admit it seems to me that almost every day is
April 1st.


Just happens to be true - you are not permitted to use unapproved
remedies in the garden.

Like washing-up liquid for washing-off aphids, mixing with herbicide
or insecticide to 'wet' the surfaces, and many old, tried and trusted
preparations just because someone hasn't paid a king's ransom to have
them officiously 'tested'.

You are not permitted to use the wort from boiled rhubarb leaves as an
insecicide.

It is probably illegal to use steeped (and smelly) nettlejuice as a
fertiliser.

And fahsands of other old practices.

I'm just going out to spread the ashes of an incinerated eurocrat...


This sounds so much like a "Lesbian Muslim Mayor bans OAPs' Christmas
party" story, that I'd enjoy it a lot if you'd share your c. and v. I'm
becoming a connoisseur of these things.

My Mum's friend's auntie works dahn the Social, and this Government has
ordered them to give all illegal immigrants BMWs.

--
Mike.




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