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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some
twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? Ian |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
"Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? I've had them appear to grow but obviously no roots did as they eventually died the following year. However if you can gets roots to grow they will be fine but best not to let them freeze this coming winter and if they grow away well next year plant them out. We have a nice yellow rose bush that came from a bunch of roses given to Sue by a friend, 5 cuttings and one rooted properly and grew but then I did just shove them in the garden. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? I've had them appear to grow but obviously no roots did as they eventually died the following year. However if you can gets roots to grow they will be fine but best not to let them freeze this coming winter and if they grow away well next year plant them out. We have a nice yellow rose bush that came from a bunch of roses given to Sue by a friend, 5 cuttings and one rooted properly and grew but then I did just shove them in the garden. What is the difference when you propogate from cuttings, instead of buying a rose grafted onto a rootstock? Just wondering what the rootstock brings to the party if the rose cuttings grow O.K. without one. -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
Charlie Pridham wrote:
In article , lid says... My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? Ian Move them next spring, if they come into growth this year give a very dilute feed untill it looks like summers over then allow to go dormant, don't let the pot/roots freeze, otherwise easy. Thanks Charlie. I'm not sure how I'd stop the roots freezing, as they're just kind of stuck in the ground at the moment in a spare bed (where me spuds were). Ian |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
Bob Hobden wrote:
"Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? I've had them appear to grow but obviously no roots did as they eventually died the following year. However if you can gets roots to grow they will be fine but best not to let them freeze this coming winter and if they grow away well next year plant them out. We have a nice yellow rose bush that came from a bunch of roses given to Sue by a friend, 5 cuttings and one rooted properly and grew but then I did just shove them in the garden. This sort of ties in with what I'm worried about; whether the cutting attempting to grow before it has rooted properly might be too much for it. I'm presuming that something is keeping it alive, since it's still green (they all are) and there are shoots on it. Ian |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
"David WE Roberts" wrote ... "Bob Hobden" wrote "Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? I've had them appear to grow but obviously no roots did as they eventually died the following year. However if you can gets roots to grow they will be fine but best not to let them freeze this coming winter and if they grow away well next year plant them out. We have a nice yellow rose bush that came from a bunch of roses given to Sue by a friend, 5 cuttings and one rooted properly and grew but then I did just shove them in the garden. What is the difference when you propogate from cuttings, instead of buying a rose grafted onto a rootstock? Just wondering what the rootstock brings to the party if the rose cuttings grow O.K. without one. I've always believed it's simply that the rose growers could not produce enough roses by the cutting method, one cutting used for grafting would produce quite a few plants, one from each bud. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
Bob Hobden wrote:
"David WE Roberts" wrote ... "Bob Hobden" wrote "Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? I've had them appear to grow but obviously no roots did as they eventually died the following year. However if you can gets roots to grow they will be fine but best not to let them freeze this coming winter and if they grow away well next year plant them out. We have a nice yellow rose bush that came from a bunch of roses given to Sue by a friend, 5 cuttings and one rooted properly and grew but then I did just shove them in the garden. What is the difference when you propogate from cuttings, instead of buying a rose grafted onto a rootstock? Just wondering what the rootstock brings to the party if the rose cuttings grow O.K. without one. I've always believed it's simply that the rose growers could not produce enough roses by the cutting method, one cutting used for grafting would produce quite a few plants, one from each bud. Aren't grafted ones supposed to be more vigorous? Ian |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
"Ian B" wrote in message ... Bob Hobden wrote: "Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. snip My daughter gave me a Kiftsgate rose a few weeks ago, a piece got broken off and I stuck it in some water where it is producing healthy leaves but no roots as yet, I don't suppose it will :-( kate |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
"Ian B" wrote Bob Hobden wrote: "David WE Roberts" wrote ... "Bob Hobden" wrote "Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? I've had them appear to grow but obviously no roots did as they eventually died the following year. However if you can gets roots to grow they will be fine but best not to let them freeze this coming winter and if they grow away well next year plant them out. We have a nice yellow rose bush that came from a bunch of roses given to Sue by a friend, 5 cuttings and one rooted properly and grew but then I did just shove them in the garden. What is the difference when you propogate from cuttings, instead of buying a rose grafted onto a rootstock? Just wondering what the rootstock brings to the party if the rose cuttings grow O.K. without one. I've always believed it's simply that the rose growers could not produce enough roses by the cutting method, one cutting used for grafting would produce quite a few plants, one from each bud. Aren't grafted ones supposed to be more vigorous? They grow to a decent size quicker, that's true, but more vigorous over time I'm not convinced. One elderly chap I knew made a rose hedge across the front of his house by taking cuttings from a pink hybrid tea rose. They grew to over 5ft tall and were indistinguishable from the original plant. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
snip My daughter gave me a Kiftsgate rose a few weeks ago, a piece got broken off and I stuck it in some water where it is producing healthy leaves but no roots as yet, I don't suppose it will :-( kate Hold your horses - it's always worth waiting with plants. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon LOL I can hold my horses Sacha, funny that you should use that expression. In my youth I used to work as a groom in the stables of Mrs. Diany Binny, I wasn't interested in gardening in those days but I do remember the walled garden where the gardener -Mr. Jones I think - used to grow rather good fruit. kate |
bury a few pieces of banana skin around the base within a few inches of the base of the cutting you have a good chance of it rooting better
In fact this is a good plan for any roses growing. Banana skins are great feed for roses!! My gran taught me that and Ive always had good results |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Ian B" wrote Bob Hobden wrote: "David WE Roberts" wrote ... "Bob Hobden" wrote "Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? I've had them appear to grow but obviously no roots did as they eventually died the following year. However if you can gets roots to grow they will be fine but best not to let them freeze this coming winter and if they grow away well next year plant them out. We have a nice yellow rose bush that came from a bunch of roses given to Sue by a friend, 5 cuttings and one rooted properly and grew but then I did just shove them in the garden. What is the difference when you propogate from cuttings, instead of buying a rose grafted onto a rootstock? Just wondering what the rootstock brings to the party if the rose cuttings grow O.K. without one. I've always believed it's simply that the rose growers could not produce enough roses by the cutting method, one cutting used for grafting would produce quite a few plants, one from each bud. Aren't grafted ones supposed to be more vigorous? They grow to a decent size quicker, that's true, but more vigorous over time I'm not convinced. One elderly chap I knew made a rose hedge across the front of his house by taking cuttings from a pink hybrid tea rose. They grew to over 5ft tall and were indistinguishable from the original plant. I am assuming there is some difference in the rootstock because of the old problem of telling the difference between rose shoots and suckers from the rootstock which don't flower. IIRC the rootstock has 7 section leaves and the rose has 5. Cheers Dave R -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
LOL I can hold my horses Sacha, funny that you should use that expression. In my youth I used to work as a groom in the stables of Mrs. Diany Binny, I wasn't interested in gardening in those days but I do remember the walled garden where the gardener -Mr. Jones I think - used to grow rather good fruit. kate I should have said that all happened at Kiftsgate Court which was the whole point of the conversation, sorry kate http://www.kiftsgate.co.uk/ |
Rose Cuttings Advice Please
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lid says... "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? I've had them appear to grow but obviously no roots did as they eventually died the following year. However if you can gets roots to grow they will be fine but best not to let them freeze this coming winter and if they grow away well next year plant them out. We have a nice yellow rose bush that came from a bunch of roses given to Sue by a friend, 5 cuttings and one rooted properly and grew but then I did just shove them in the garden. What is the difference when you propogate from cuttings, instead of buying a rose grafted onto a rootstock? Just wondering what the rootstock brings to the party if the rose cuttings grow O.K. without one. There are several reasons why specialist rose growers use budding, first as Bob mentions is it reduces the quantity of stock plant that must be maintained as each new plant takes less material, second it reduces the time to produce a bigger plant as the stock (root system) can be several years old before its used, this means a grower can react more quickly to market trends, thirdly not all roses will take from cuttings, certainly yellow roses are difficult and roses that suffer from mildew like Rambling Rector. There are however down sides, firstly suckers, not a problem with cuttings and secondly the choice of root stock often means poor performance on acid soils, and thirdly you need skilled persons to do the work -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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