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On 22/09/2010 22:34, Sacha wrote:
This isn't entirely safe advice because to some extent it depends on the land the house was built on. For example, houses built on Church Commission land may have covenants attached that have nothing to do with normal planning and housing laws. That's why I suggested Val looks at the Deeds to their house if she's thinking of putting in a fence instead It will be interesting to have a look at them, I'm curious now. -- http://www.ariesval.co.uk/val |
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On 22/09/2010 22:26, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:47:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On 22 Sep, 17:10, wrote: We have a very tall (over 10 feet) Leylandii hedge around two sides of our back garden. I hate it and would like to it replace with a high fence where we could then grow fruit trees etc alongside it. Can anyone tell me what the tallest legal height is that one can have re a garden fence in England ? --http://www.ariesval.co.uk/val Forget about your deeds, irrelevent. You can plant a hedge BTW and let it grow as high as you like subject cutting light off from your neighbourd house. We had this discussion about hedges a week or so again. A neighbour can do nothing about a hedge cutting off light. A neighbour can complain about a hedge being more than 2 metres high. If the neighbour complains, the neighbour has to pay the councils costs whether or not the complaint is justified. The council can order the height of a hedge to be reduced to two metres, but not if reducing the height could kill the hedge. gosh this is getting complicated ! -- http://www.ariesval.co.uk/val |
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On 22/09/2010 23:56, Sacha wrote:
On 2010-09-22 23:48:11 +0100, Aries on MacBook said: On 22/09/2010 22:34, Sacha wrote: This isn't entirely safe advice because to some extent it depends on the land the house was built on. For example, houses built on Church Commission land may have covenants attached that have nothing to do with normal planning and housing laws. That's why I suggested Val looks at the Deeds to their house if she's thinking of putting in a fence instead It will be interesting to have a look at them, I'm curious now. I'm raising the question because a member of our family is selling a house in this village. It is built on Church Commission land. There are certain covenants - usual ones about them retaining mineral rights, for example but the buyers' solicitor wanted to know if there was a Chancel repair obligation (no!) and there is certainly a restriction as to fence height - 6' either side of the house but the fence at the rear has to be maintained rather differently and can't be anything more than wire, IIRC. No idea why. OTOH, there is no mention of a restriction from growing a hedge in that part of the garden. The lane in front of the house is unadopted just where it meets her house but not in front of 4 houses above hers and yet the Council appear to repair it! From this slightly convoluted experience, which I've been handling, I'd say that there is no one size fits all which is why I suggest you look at your Deeds. This may apply more in rural areas but there's no room for complacency, IMO. I'm not sure any of the above will apply to us. We live on the outskirts of Tiverton on the south facing slopes of the Exe, not actually in the town itself. We own a private drive leading up to our home and running along one side of the drive and right alongside our garden is an old railway which is now a lovely walking area with lots of lovely trees growing either side of is so making our garden very private. But at the bottom and south side of the garden is this very overgrown leylandii hedge which in preference now I would like to see topped off to a more reasonable height. Surely that won't kill it ? -- http://www.ariesval.co.uk/val |
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On 22/09/2010 22:11, kay wrote:
'Martin[_2_ Wrote: ;901067']On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:10:13 +0100, aries wrote: - We have a very tall (over 10 feet) Leylandii hedge around two sides of our back garden. I hate it and would like to it replace with a high fence where we could then grow fruit trees etc alongside it. Can anyone tell me what the tallest legal height is that one can have re a garden fence in England ?- My understanding is that below 2m you do not have to apply for planning permission. If you want to go higher than that, you will need planning permission (and perhaps building regs permission re foundations). So you could ask and see what they'd be likely to approve. Nothing to lose if you're content to keep with a hedge if you don't like their answer. Out of interest I may do that Kay, thank you. -- http://www.ariesval.co.uk/val |
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"Aries on MacBook" wrote in message o.uk... I'm not sure any of the above will apply to us. We live on the outskirts of Tiverton on the south facing slopes of the Exe, not actually in the town itself. We own a private drive leading up to our home and running along one side of the drive and right alongside our garden is an old railway which is now a lovely walking area with lots of lovely trees growing either side of is so making our garden very private. But at the bottom and south side of the garden is this very overgrown leylandii hedge which in preference now I would like to see topped off to a more reasonable height. Surely that won't kill it ? Provided there is plenty of green below the chop off level then the wretched stuff will thrive after topping ( :-( If the stuff below the top off point is dead greenless material then it will likely die (:-) Regards Pete |
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You could think if there's any way of removing the leylandii one at a time, replacing by fence panels for temporary privacy, then replanting a different hedge. But any hedge that'll grow to 7 or 8 ft in a reasonable length of time will take a lot of maintenance. So it depends how much you hate it. Have you thought of growing a Tropaeleum up it? - they've done that at York Gate and it looks very good, scarlet flower against the matte green background. We're considering various options for our 30ft leylandii. Meanwhile the Church have reduced theirs to 10ft lollipops ;-) |
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On 23/09/2010 09:26, Pete wrote:
"Aries on MacBook" wrote in message o.uk... I'm not sure any of the above will apply to us. We live on the outskirts of Tiverton on the south facing slopes of the Exe, not actually in the town itself. We own a private drive leading up to our home and running along one side of the drive and right alongside our garden is an old railway which is now a lovely walking area with lots of lovely trees growing either side of is so making our garden very private. But at the bottom and south side of the garden is this very overgrown leylandii hedge which in preference now I would like to see topped off to a more reasonable height. Surely that won't kill it ? Provided there is plenty of green below the chop off level then the wretched stuff will thrive after topping ( :-( If the stuff below the top off point is dead greenless material then it will likely die (:-) Regards Pete It's all green and lush as it's been well looked after during previous years. It's just far too tall and costs a lotta to have it trimmed. -- http://www.ariesval.co.uk/val |
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On 23 Sep, 13:13, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:45:13 +0100, Charlie Pridham wrote: In article , says... We have a very tall (over 10 feet) Leylandii hedge around two sides of our back garden. *I hate it and would like to it replace with a high fence where we could then grow fruit trees etc alongside it. *Can anyone tell me what the tallest legal height is that one can have re a garden fence in England ? Without planning consent 2M but you can go above this with a bit of trellis or plants, if you like your neighbours and they agree then there is no reason to not put up a fence the height you want, but no one can object to 2M if its on your land. My daughter lives on a hill, her garden is about a metre above her neighbour's garden. Is the 2 metres measured above her own garden or her neighbour's garden? -- Martin Neighbours. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... Without planning consent 2M but you can go above this with a bit of trellis or plants, if you like your neighbours and they agree then there is no reason to not put up a fence the height you want, but no one can object to 2M if its on your land. My daughter lives on a hill, her garden is about a metre above her neighbour's garden. Is the 2 metres measured above her own garden or her neighbour's garden? -- Martin Neighbours Own (imho) Pete |
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"harry" wrote in message ... Forget about your deeds, irrelevent. No!! They are not irrelevant at all if you ever fall out with your neighbours over trees and fences and you've gone against your deeds. Their deeds will be similar so they know what is allowed and won't hesitate to use it against you to press their case. Believe me on this and keep yourself on the right side of the law. My neighbours, who I initially got on very well with have turned into the neighbours from hell. We have big gardens, very long, 156 yds, but when a limb fell off an old plum tree of mine 100 yards down and into their garden, they threw it back over and damaged a lot of my plants, including a nice Knipfo. That is entirely not necessary. It really isn't important to be so territorial, particular as they rarely even go down their garden that far. I know what they are doing it for, they want me to take my Lawson's cypressus down in my front garden. Which I will get reduced in January when the woodpigeons have finished nesting in them. I told them that but what fun it is for them now to throw everything back that they can prune that dares creep 1mm into their garden from mine. I don't know how we got to that stage. Normal neighbours might like to help someone who lost their husband and is recovering from ovarian cancer - which they are aware of. Seems not. Tina Tina |
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Christina Websell wrote:
My neighbours, who I initially got on very well with have turned into the neighbours from hell. We have big gardens, very long, 156 yds, but when a limb fell off an old plum tree of mine 100 yards down and into their garden, they threw it back over and damaged a lot of my plants, including a nice Knipfo. That is entirely not necessary. Nick has been getting rather upset at our neighbours who chopped off his grape vine when it started encroaching (at a height of about 10') over the boundary, and previously he's been pushing the hop plant that tries to climb over their fence back into our garden, which has broken the trelis and snapped one of my lily trees. |
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wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: My neighbours, who I initially got on very well with have turned into the neighbours from hell. We have big gardens, very long, 156 yds, but when a limb fell off an old plum tree of mine 100 yards down and into their garden, they threw it back over and damaged a lot of my plants, including a nice Knipfo. That is entirely not necessary. Nick has been getting rather upset at our neighbours who chopped off his grape vine when it started encroaching (at a height of about 10') over the boundary, and previously he's been pushing the hop plant that tries to climb over their fence back into our garden, which has broken the trelis and snapped one of my lily trees. I suppose I can understand being terratorial if your garden is only a few sq metres, but mine is not, and I expect yours isn't. Never had a problem with previous neighbour, we accepted that we had enough ground that if a tree encroached over the boundary, it just did not matter. Mine would, or his would, we did not care either way. Tina |
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"mark" wrote in message ... as an aside, I am sure I recall from the uk.legal.moderated newsgroup that there is a misunderstanding of this action over property incursing into others property. This is the usual scenario where trees/bushes overhang a fence boundary line. It was, I'm sure, the considered opinion that the 'offending' material that had crossed the boundary into adjoining property, when lopped/trimmed back to the boundary line MUST be offered back to the owner. The opinion was that just throwing back the overhanging material was quite possibly an act of culpability..! One which, as in your case, could be held to have caused damage and for which a property owner could successfully claim for the damage done by the 'throwing back' of the offending material. I am not a lawyer but think I have remembered correctly the considered opinion in that group (frequented, of course, by a number of legal professionals..) If this is so, and I'[ve no reason not to belive that, then it would be absolutely in order to ask the neighbours to refrain from throwing back any cuttings they make to your trees overhanging their property and that they should ask you on each and every occasion what you want done with the trimmings. Obviously, it follows, that if you do not want them then the neighbour will have to dispose of them in another manner. You do not *have* to accept things being thrown into your property... Seems reasonable to me - except I do not see the point of the "each and every occasion" factor. Surely a happy to all precedent could be established, to cover all occasions. Regards Pete www.thecanalshop.com |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:43:21 +0100, "Pete" wrote: Seems reasonable to me - except I do not see the point of the "each and every occasion" factor. Surely a happy to all precedent could be established, to cover all occasions. If you look up the law/regulation all it says is that cuttings/branches belong to the owner of the tree/hedge. -- As owner he can give the material to the neighbour, if mutually agreed. Pete |
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