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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-01-27 10:19:28 +0000, "Bill Grey" said: "Martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:22:15 -0000, "Bill Grey" wrote: Nick says people can use a calculator, but I have yet to see anybody doing this in a supermarket, for example. Our two kids did arithmetic using a calculator at school. I don't think they even own one nowadays. If you can't learn tables and can't learn the mathematical tricks, then any sane person would buy one. Regards, Nick Maclaren. It's no great encumberance to learn the times table at an early age - it can only help in future years. There maybe more than one way to skin a cat, but it doesn't hurt to have more than one string to your bow. Children at the age that times tables were taught could readily absorb the information, why deny them such a wonderful experience of learning a technique that could serve them well in their future lives. They can also absorb new languages at the same age. -- Martin Definitely ! Bill Yes, I've always thought it a big mistake that schools wait so long to introduce a foreign language into the curriculum. I started learning French when I was 4 and while no way am I fluent, I speak fairly well for a foreigner. I just don't remember actually learning verbs because we started so young and I was very lucky to have good French teachers at all the schools I went to. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon I spoke Welsh long before I was formerly tought Welsh. Funnily, it was then the trouble starrted. The difference between colloquial Welsh and grammatical or literary Welsh was a bit traumatic. The differences were slight, the pronunciation sometimes, and learning the correct word as opposed to a word distorted by collquialism in another ( eg in English innit as opposed to isn't it, or is it not) Bill |
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wrote in message ... Bill Grey wrote: There maybe more than one way to skin a cat, but it doesn't hurt to have more than one string to your bow. Skinning a cat with a bow seems a cruel and unnecessary approach The cat gut comes in handy though. Bill |
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On 2011-01-27 11:41:15 +0000, said: The boys' primary school have introduced French, the boys both got Spanish and Urdu (!) sessions when at nursery. Spanish is much useful if they get a choice at any point! Not sure how widely spoken Urdu is! Don't bet on it! Urdu and Hindustani are very closely related and are the native languages of a large chunk of India and most of Pakistan. I think that's LONG overdue - I would have introduced it 20-30 years ago in relevant places, and got the English and Urdu speakers (I mean children) to teach each other. Yes, I know that would have created a weird composite, but so what? English is already one. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Sacha wrote:
The boys' primary school have introduced French, the boys both got Spanish and Urdu (!) sessions when at nursery. Spanish is much useful if they get a choice at any point! Not sure how widely spoken Urdu is! I think Urdu is probably the 2nd language of the area of London their nursery was in, hence the choice. It was only a short intro. Actually, I think they had French for a term, too, cos Daniel came home one day shouting "ooh la la!" |
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But it would help if more than 20% of primary school teachers knew the answer to "what is one plus two time three". My answer would be "do you mean one plus two-times-three, or one-plus-two times three?" Do I win an apple? Are you the teacher? Well, I seem to agree with the majority. :-P Seriously, you can't claim only 20% 'got it right', as asking where the brackets are is a perfectly reasonable (and imho, much more sensible response than assuming there are none) question. Brackets are very hard to hear in spoken questions. (I assume it was a spoken question - if it was written it would be a slightly different matter) |
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: Martin wrote: But it would help if more than 20% of primary school teachers knew the answer to "what is one plus two time three". My answer would be "do you mean one plus two-times-three, or one-plus-two times three?" Do I win an apple? Are you the teacher? Well, I seem to agree with the majority. :-P Seriously, you can't claim only 20% 'got it right', as asking where the brackets are is a perfectly reasonable (and imho, much more sensible response than assuming there are none) question. Brackets are very hard to hear in spoken questions. (I assume it was a spoken question - if it was written it would be a slightly different matter) Sorry, no cigar, nor apple. There is a single correct answer without brackets. |
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: "Tom" wrote in message .253... Martin wrote in : In real life being able to instantly recall a product is better than knowing how to derive it from scratch. And much better than either is knowing how and when to use/apply it, and to use the right tool to get the correct answer. Try solving a quadratic equation using the "formla" method, oh damn! - you've forgotten the formula (shame) Now use the "completing the square" logical method.- no formulae involved. Nice to kow how it really is done. But that is less trivial for x^2 + x + 1 |
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: Tom wrote: I like* things like '75% fat free' ... meaning 25% fat? Eyww. To digress, in California you can get egg-free omlettes and fat-free sour cream. I have a container of the latter, but couldn't figure out how to preserve and transport the former. fat free sour cream I could possibly comprehend, but ... /egg/ free omlettes?? My ghast is flabbered. So was mine, to the extent that I almost ordered some just to see what they were like. But I didn't, since the eggs benedict were so nice :) |
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"Tom" wrote in message 6.253... wrote in : I've commented elsewhere about primary teachers not knowing what 1+2*3 is, and on the disappearance of calculus from GCSE/O-level maths The Calculus was never part of "O" level maths in 1952 unfortunately. Bill |
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Tom wrote:
fat free sour cream I could possibly comprehend, but ... /egg/ free omlettes?? My ghast is flabbered. So was mine, to the extent that I almost ordered some just to see what they were like. But I didn't, since the eggs benedict were so nice :) To be fair, I've had vegan 'scrambled egg' before, which I hated - not beause of the texture, but because they piled tumeric into it. Noidea why, it's not as if you tumericise your scrambled egg normally! (do you?) |
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Sacha wrote:
I take your point but in the past, languages were taught because they were useful in diplomacy or commerce. French is the language of diplomacy and Spanish is spoken in large tracts of the trading world. I don't know if that's the case with Urdu or Hindustani so I don't know if those languages will be useful in a modern child's business life. Given how a lot of UK work is now farmed out to India to get it done on the cheap (see call centres + IT work for the obvious examples), I can see there being a call for Indian languages. |
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Martin wrote:
But it would help if more than 20% of primary school teachers knew the answer to "what is one plus two time three". My answer would be "do you mean one plus two-times-three, or one-plus-two times three?" Do I win an apple? Are you the teacher? Well, I seem to agree with the majority. :-P Seriously, you can't claim only 20% 'got it right', as asking where the brackets are is a perfectly reasonable (and imho, much more sensible response than assuming there are none) question. Brackets are very hard to hear in spoken questions. (I assume it was a spoken question - if it was written it would be a slightly different matter) I agree with you. It wasn't me who made the claim. Whoever it was has been snipped. Apologies, it was my over-zealous snipping, but I did think it was you. Apparently (from another branch of the thread), it was Tom. Congratulations, I've merged you with another poster. :-) |
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Tom wrote:
But it would help if more than 20% of primary school teachers knew the answer to "what is one plus two time three". My answer would be "do you mean one plus two-times-three, or one-plus-two times three?" Do I win an apple? Are you the teacher? Well, I seem to agree with the majority. :-P Seriously, you can't claim only 20% 'got it right', as asking where the brackets are is a perfectly reasonable (and imho, much more sensible response than assuming there are none) question. Brackets are very hard to hear in spoken questions. (I assume it was a spoken question - if it was written it would be a slightly different matter) Sorry, no cigar, nor apple. There is a single correct answer without brackets. Yes, there is a single correct answer without brackets. But if you speak the question you can't tell if there are brackets that you can't see. It is perfectly valid to ask. |
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