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On 27/08/2011 18:50, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 27/08/2011 17:37, 'Mike' wrote: "The Medway wrote in message ... On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote: "The Medway Handyman" mocked: Why don't you try getting a life? Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it and his health by avoiding passive smoking. Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. Margaret Horsborough 25 Colchester Road Leicester My next door neighbour when I lived in Leicester in the 60's and 70's A non smoker, died of Lung Cancer due to secondary/passive smoking whilst in an office environment. Alas she didn't. Nice try, no cigar. Come off your 'I know my rights' high horse. YOU pollute the air I breath. I don't pollute the air you breath. So you don't drive a car, heat your house, use aerosols or fart then? Ah, the defence that all smokers resort to in the end. The difference is that all the above serve useful purposes and the pollution is an unfortunately necessary byproduct of that function, whereas smoking simply prevents the addict's withdrawal symptoms as the previous fix wears off. SteveW |
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On 28/08/2011 19:41, Ron Lowe wrote:
On 27/08/2011 22:46, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/08/2011 20:44, Interloper wrote: Unable to think up a new insult, "The Medway Handyman" reiterated: No, you are still a pompous ****. OK TMH, it's been fun bandying words with an archetypical, arrogant smoker, but I can't justify any more of today in a battle of wits against an unarmed adversary. Still being a pompous **** I see. At least you are consistent. So you think it's perfectly reasonable to inflict your smoking stench on others? No. I think its perfectly reasonable to have smoking & non smoking areas. It's called 'choice'. A straight 'yes' will suffice. I think a straight '**** off' would suffice. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:24:40 +0100 Steve Walker wrote :
As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's extraordinary now to think that there was a time (before I took up travelling) when people smoked on planes. A good while back I had a number of British Rail archive films of the 1950s and smoking at your desk seemed to be the norm. -- Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on', Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com |
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On 28/08/2011 20:45, Fuschia wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:41:10 +0100, Ron wrote: On 27/08/2011 22:46, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/08/2011 20:44, Interloper wrote: Unable to think up a new insult, "The Medway Handyman" reiterated: No, you are still a pompous ****. OK TMH, it's been fun bandying words with an archetypical, arrogant smoker, but I can't justify any more of today in a battle of wits against an unarmed adversary. Still being a pompous **** I see. At least you are consistent. So you think it's perfectly reasonable to inflict your smoking stench on others? A straight 'yes' will suffice. Of course he does. Oh no he doesn't. He doesn't care that it causes other people to cough,make their eyes sore and their clothes smell. Nope, wrong again. He doesn't care that it may start an asthmatic attack. Like many other things can. He's happy to ignore these things. No I'm not. He's a smoker. You are a fascist. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 22:36, John Williamson wrote:
Fuschia wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:41:10 +0100, Ron Lowe wrote: So you think it's perfectly reasonable to inflict your smoking stench on others? A straight 'yes' will suffice. Of course he does. He doesn't care that it causes other people to cough,make their eyes sore and their clothes smell. He doesn't care that it may start an asthmatic attack. He's happy to ignore these things. He's a smoker. AKA a drug addict. AKA someone indulging in a perfectly legal activity. Nicotine has been shown to be more addictive than heroin in a controlled, peer-reviewed, experiment involving American college students. Strange but true, many people make the positive choice to be smokers. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 27/08/2011 23:41, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Medway Handyman wrote: If we weren't meant to smoke, why did God invent tobacco? Oh come now Our Dave. You may as well say that if we weren't meant to jump off cliffs why did he invent Beachy Head? 'Mike' made the inane comment "If you were meant to smoke, you would have been born with a chimney out of you head". I was merely being as ridiculous as he was. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:24:40 +0100 Steve Walker wrote : As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's extraordinary now to think that there was a time (before I took up travelling) when people smoked on planes. A good while back I had a number of British Rail archive films of the 1950s and smoking at your desk seemed to be the norm. That was when most people didn't think smoking harmed them. Now the sensible ones have realised the truth and stopped. The ones that continue also don't believe smoking harms others. Not really surprising as there are a lot of fools about. |
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On 28/08/2011 23:29, Steve Walker wrote:
On 27/08/2011 18:50, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/08/2011 17:37, 'Mike' wrote: "The Medway wrote in message ... On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote: "The Medway Handyman" mocked: Why don't you try getting a life? Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it and his health by avoiding passive smoking. Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. Margaret Horsborough 25 Colchester Road Leicester My next door neighbour when I lived in Leicester in the 60's and 70's A non smoker, died of Lung Cancer due to secondary/passive smoking whilst in an office environment. Alas she didn't. Nice try, no cigar. Come off your 'I know my rights' high horse. YOU pollute the air I breath. I don't pollute the air you breath. So you don't drive a car, heat your house, use aerosols or fart then? Ah, the defence that all smokers resort to in the end. The difference is that all the above serve useful purposes and the pollution is an unfortunately necessary byproduct of that function, Farting serves a useful purpose? whereas smoking simply prevents the addict's withdrawal symptoms as the previous fix wears off. The ploy anti smokers always resort to in the end. Perhaps you could cite an incident of a smoker mugging someone to get a 'fix'? I would remind you that smoking is a perfectly legal activity that makes an important contribution to Govmint funds. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 13:14, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote: Dave Plowman wrote: In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com, Peter wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's? I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease? There is conclusive evidence to link active smoking with lung cancer. Passive smoking is however a myth. I believe that there is link, but I also believe that the increased risk is probably low enough for me to ignore. I cannot however ignore the awful smell, the affect on my eyes and my throat or the smell on my clothes and my hair the next morning. For two and a half years I was suffering from asthma (still do of course) and pulmonary sarcoidosis (declared clear just over a year ago), yet "friends" still insisted on smoking around me. SteveW |
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On 28/08/2011 19:35, 'Mike' wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:37:43 +0100, wrote: "The Medway wrote in message ... On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote: "The Medway Handyman" mocked: Why don't you try getting a life? Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it and his health by avoiding passive smoking. Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. Margaret Horsborough 25 Colchester Road Leicester My next door neighbour when I lived in Leicester in the 60's and 70's A non smoker, died of Lung Cancer due to secondary/passive smoking whilst in an office environment. Was this the result of an autopsy - or just your guess. Did it say on the death certificate : Lung Cancer caused by passive smoking? - or are you just guessing or suggesting that Lung Cancer is *only* caused by inhaling cigarette smoke? Oh dear :-(( Oh dear, oh dear. Another smoker trying to justify their addiction to the obnoxious weed. Another non smoker unable to support his biased opinion. Why can't they just admit that they are wrong, pack up their vile habit and stop polluting the air WE breath and the pavements with their dog ends? Why can't you appreciate that anally retentive, small minded people like you will believe anything that supports your cause? Many of your habits might well be vile to me. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Steve Walker wrote: The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. I find it very amusing. Non smokers always said how much they hated pubs because of the smoke. Now they're all non smoking, they're closing in droves... -- *24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case ... coincidence? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 28/08/2011 21:43, Interloper wrote:
Having analysed the various passive smoking arguments, "Keith" made the following contribution to the discussion: I believe that you are a ****wit. Is that good enough for you? Rather like 'TMH', if the best you can come up with is a personal insult, then you have lost the argument. When you have an IQ lower than your shoe size, it's usually best to keep quiet. Your stupidity is simply astounding. Firstly you say "Rather like 'TMH', if the best you can come up with is a personal insult, then you have lost the argument". Followed by "When you have an IQ lower than your shoe size, it's usually best to keep quiet". So you have just lost the argument. Please examine your feet for bullet wounds. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Dave East" wrote in message ... Our next door neighbours are very heavy smokers and we get a bit fed up with the smell of it. Wondering if we bought one of those fairly big house fans and placed it on the garden table whether it would make any difference or would be it be a waste of time? Try it. I wish my new neighbours would just smoke rather than only occupy their house when they are going to have a huge party. A car blocked me in, and I asked them to move (this was at 9a.m. and he said he would only be there for a few minutes, so I agreed ok) It was there until 7 pm. and there were people spilling into the street talking at the top of their voices all day. This is a quiet area, this is the 2nd noisy party in a few weeks. They will not fit in if they continue. They do not even seem to be living there, just using it for parties. It drives me wild. Tina Looking at this from my viewpoint as a smoker. If my neighbours objected to me smoking in my garden I doubt if I would do much about it as I never smoke in the house as I (yip) hate the smell. I also wont smoke in front of non smokers restuarants etc. I would probably smoke at a point further away from the boundry if they approached me in a mannerable way. My neighbours have frequent BBQs which I hate (the smoke/smell) but as its only once or twice a week I just ignore. If a neighbour uses a lot of garlic in food I have major issues as I react badly to the smell, so I hide indoors. Point is we live in close proximity and have to put up with some annoyances, as long as they are not major. Hell we could have a lot worse, I know I have. we are unlikely to have the perfect world/surroundings unless we have the wealth to buy it. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Steve Walker wrote: The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. I find it very amusing. Non smokers always said how much they hated pubs because of the smoke. Now they're all non smoking, they're closing in droves... That's because the pubs never catered for the non smokers and they all went elsewhere. They lost the best part of a generation of customers who don't see any reason to go to the pub now. There are plenty of other places that did cater for non smokers that have a growing customer base. In this world its adapt or go bust. |
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On 28/08/2011 18:57, dennis@home wrote:
"Jon" wrote in message ... Very true - there are a lot of myths about smoking, perpetuated by those with an agenda and propagated by those who slavishly believe whatever they're told. Mostly by the addicts. For a more balanced view on the subject, the singer Joe Jackson decided to look into REAL facts regarding smoking and wrote "Smoke Lies, and the Nanny State" Hello Dennipoos. You are well known around here for being a thick ****. This does nothing to avoid that opinion. Addicts and their suppliers always like to look at studies and ignore those that don't agree with their findings. The anti smoking fascists do exactly that. Any study refuting the passive smoking myth are suppressed and never published - and they are legion & many fold. remember how many decades the smoking lobby told everyone that smoking didn't harm the addicts? Remember how the ASF spent years trying to denigrate smokers? remember how many decades the smoking lobby claimed smoking was not addictive. You are going to have to provide some evidence for that. Now they claim passive smoking does no harm. You just can't trust the smoking industry or the addicts, they lie, they lie lots. Nothing like the anti smoking lobby. When it comes to lies, false information & fudged reports they are in a league of their own. Perhaps you would like to check out the well known anti smoking charity Action on Smoking & Health? Let me know when you do, we can talk about funding & lying. There is no way an addict will admit that he has helped to kill someone and they will cling on to any sliver of evidence to say they didn't, such is life and death. There is no way a small minded idiot like you would ever develop the intellectual capacity to think for himself. Its pointless arguing with addicts until they are cured. Its pointless arguing with thick ****s like you. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28 Aug,
The Medway Handyman wrote: Farting serves a useful purpose? Try going a week without a fart. You'll find the reason! -- B Thumbs Change lycos to yahoo to reply |
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On 28/08/2011 18:58, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:39:10 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 28/08/2011 15:15, Peter James wrote: The Medway wrote: On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote: Dave Plowman wrote: In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com, Peter wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's? I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease? There is conclusive evidence to link active smoking with lung cancer. Passive smoking is however a myth. I think that this will be my last posting on this subject. There's none so bllind as those who will not see! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11844169 http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Smok...hers-(Passive- Smoking).htm http://www.helpwithsmoking.com/passive-smoking.php http://bookshop.rcplondon.ac.uk/details.aspx?e=305 Peter http://www.forestonline.org/info/passive-smoking/ MRD. MRD Minimum Required Distribution (qualified retirement plans and IRAs) MRD Metal Raiders (Yu-Gi-Oh cards) MRD Ministry of Rural Development (various countries) MRD Marine Resources Division (various states) MRD Marketing Requirements Document MRD Market Requirements Document MRD Movement for the Restoration of Democracy (Pakistan) MRD Machine-Readable Dictionary MRD Matched Related Donor MRD Mirrodin (game) MRD Mission Requirements Document MRD Motorized Rifle Division MRD Mandatory Removal Date (from military service) MRD Minimum Residual Disease MRD Mandatory Retirement Date MRD Merida, Venezuela - Alberto Carnevalli (Airport Code) MRD Manual Ring-Down MRD Mandatory Release Date MRD Multicystic Renal Dysplasia MRD Marginal Reflex Distance MRD Manufacturing, Retail & Distribution MRD Marketing Research Department MRD Maximum Rank Distance MRD Material Required Date MRD Multicast Routing Debugger MRD Master Requirements Directory MRD Materiel Release Denial MRD Mobile Receive Diversity MRD Maintenance Requirements Determination (Australian government) MRD Multi-Resolution Decomposition MRD Memorandum for Regional Directors (DCAA) MRD Maximum Relative Density (asphalt) MRD Maximum Release Date MRD Minimum Rank Distance MRD Minimum Reacting Dose MRD Maintenance Requirements Document MRD Material Requirements Data MRD Marine Design Center MRD Milestone Review Document MRD Materiel Requirements Document MRD Military Requirements Determination MRD Materiel Redistribution Division MRD Maintenance Reference Documentation MRD Management Resource Database (public defenders database) MRD Master Requirements Document MRD US Army Corps of Engineers, Missouri River Division MRD Material Receipt Date MRD Market Release Date MRD Material Release Document MRD Myst, Riven and D'ni (game series) MRD Medical Renal Diseases ??????? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 21:17, Huge wrote:
On 2011-08-28, The Medway wrote: http://www.forestonline.org/info/passive-smoking/ Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha[gasp]hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha So, because Forest doesn't support your bias, you denigtare the evidence? Would you perhaps, in your unbiased view, believe what Action on Smoking & Health said? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 19:01, dennis@home wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Peter James wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. that's true.. you can choose not to go into smoke filled rooms. in the other case they are taking away your freedom. What about the freedom of smokers to go into smoke filled rooms? Or is 'freedom' a one way street? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 21:07, dennis@home wrote:
"charles" wrote in message ... In article , dennis@home wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Peter James wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. that's true.. you can choose not to go into smoke filled rooms. not if your job depends on it. That's why we have a smoking ban, you can't go into smoke filled rooms because of your job anymore. No, we have a smoking ban because a fanatical group of anti smokers, backed up by the lobbying of multi national drug companies, forced it through. Its undemocratic & basd on false evidence. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 23:24, Steve Walker wrote:
On 27/08/2011 17:20, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote: "The Medway Handyman" mocked: Why don't you try getting a life? Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it and his health by avoiding passive smoking. Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. Roy Castle? Alas not. Lung cancer yes. 10% of lung cancer deaths occur in non smokers. Most of the people I know who don't want anyone smoking near them are not overly concerned about passive smoking, they just can't stand the odour, the sore eyes, the sore throat and the smelly clothes they end up with from being around smokers. An entirely reasonable view. I have no wish to inflict the by products of smoking on others. Equally, I can't see why non smokers should inflict their views on smokers. As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's a foul odour that travels considerable distances. As are many things, but we don't ban cheap perfume, body odour, farting, fried onions, McDonalds, diesel fuel, rape seed etc. My wife is an ex-smoker (she promised her father a month before he was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer and other than one lapse, she has stuck to it), she frequently comments that she's amazed how she could ever have smoked, as she too can't stand the smell. I personally love the smell of secondhand smoke YMMY. During the summer when it is hot we naturally like our patio door and windows open to get a breeze. At night we sleep with our bedroom window open. Our neighbours have a young child so they go outside to smoke and we end up suffering their smoke. We either have to put up with it or close the windows and struggle to sleep 'cos of the heat. Interesting point that. Smoking has been deliberately demonised over the years to the point of stupdity. Were it not for that, your neighbours would smoke indoors with no adverse affects to their child, in fact, according to many (supressed) studies, it would promote a resistance to smoking related illness.. The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. The selfessness of non smokers amazes me. I'd suppot 'smoking' and 'non smoking' areas. Majority rule? My youngest daughter doesn't smoke. When she goes out with her mates, most of them disappear outside for a fag & leave her on her own. Now she goes out with them. Secondly, every time one of the smokers tried to give up, the others would smoke in front of them and each time they lit up, they'd offer them one - as if they couldn't stand letting one get away! However, I do think that the coucils that are trying to ban smokers from lighting up in the street, parks, etc. are going too far; similarly with the existing ban on smoking in company vehicles; and also the hospitals and companies that ban employees from smoking in their own cars in their car-parks. Thank you for a reasoned view. :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 22:59, R D S wrote:
On 27/08/2011 15:39, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/08/2011 09:42, Dave East wrote: Our next door neighbours are very heavy smokers and we get a bit fed up with the smell of it. Wondering if we bought one of those fairly big house fans and placed it on the garden table whether it would make any difference or would be it be a waste of time? Why don't you try getting a life? I had some respect for you up to that point. You appear to be confusing me with someone who cares what you think. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 23:47, Steve Walker wrote:
On 28/08/2011 13:14, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote: Dave Plowman wrote: In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com, Peter wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's? I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease? There is conclusive evidence to link active smoking with lung cancer. Passive smoking is however a myth. I believe that there is link, but I also believe that the increased risk is probably low enough for me to ignore. I cannot however ignore the awful smell, the affect on my eyes and my throat or the smell on my clothes and my hair the next morning. As a heavy smoker I can appreciate that. For two and a half years I was suffering from asthma (still do of course) and pulmonary sarcoidosis (declared clear just over a year ago), yet "friends" still insisted on smoking around me. TBF Steve, you need to address your 'friends' attitude. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 23:45, dennis@home wrote:
"Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:24:40 +0100 Steve Walker wrote : As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's extraordinary now to think that there was a time (before I took up travelling) when people smoked on planes. A good while back I had a number of British Rail archive films of the 1950s and smoking at your desk seemed to be the norm. That was when most people didn't think smoking harmed them. Now the sensible ones have realised the truth and stopped. The ones that continue also don't believe smoking harms others. That would be because there is no credible evidence to support that view. Not really surprising as there are a lot of fools about. You being their undisputed king ****wit. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 29/08/2011 01:00, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 28/08/2011 23:45, dennis@home wrote: "Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:24:40 +0100 Steve Walker wrote : As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's extraordinary now to think that there was a time (before I took up travelling) when people smoked on planes. A good while back I had a number of British Rail archive films of the 1950s and smoking at your desk seemed to be the norm. That was when most people didn't think smoking harmed them. Now the sensible ones have realised the truth and stopped. The ones that continue also don't believe smoking harms others. That would be because there is no credible evidence to support that view. Not really surprising as there are a lot of fools about. You being their undisputed king ****wit. TMH. Get your head out of the sand. You are making yourself look a complete idiot. |
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On 29/08/2011 00:02, dennis@home wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Steve Walker wrote: The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. I find it very amusing. Non smokers always said how much they hated pubs because of the smoke. Now they're all non smoking, they're closing in droves... That's because the pubs never catered for the non smokers and they all went elsewhere. Sorry ****wit, they wanted to, but pejorative legislation prevented them from doing so. They lost the best part of a generation of customers who don't see any reason to go to the pub now. Mainly because of the smoking ban idiot. There are plenty of other places that did cater for non smokers that have a growing customer base. No doubt you can name them? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Christina Websell wrote:
"Dave East" wrote in message ... Our next door neighbours are very heavy smokers and we get a bit fed up with the smell of it. Wondering if we bought one of those fairly big house fans and placed it on the garden table whether it would make any difference or would be it be a waste of time? Try it. I wish my new neighbours would just smoke rather than only occupy their house when they are going to have a huge party. A car blocked me in, and I asked them to move (this was at 9a.m. and he said he would only be there for a few minutes, so I agreed ok) It was there until 7 pm. and there were people spilling into the street talking at the top of their voices all day. This is a quiet area, this is the 2nd noisy party in a few weeks. They will not fit in if they continue. They do not even seem to be living there, just using it for parties. It drives me wild. Tina Ah. You need the TNP secret weapon. a 100W detuned ex police transmitter coupled to a noise generator. Obliterates every hifi system within 30 meters. The ultimate party pooper and, if they have it loud enough, destroys the woofers as well. No home should be without one. And they will never know who dunit |
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dennis@home wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Peter James wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. that's true.. you can choose not to go into smoke filled rooms. in the other case they are taking away your freedom. As you would take away theirs. |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 29/08/2011 01:06, Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
On 29/08/2011 01:00, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 28/08/2011 23:45, dennis@home wrote: "Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:24:40 +0100 Steve Walker wrote : As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's extraordinary now to think that there was a time (before I took up travelling) when people smoked on planes. A good while back I had a number of British Rail archive films of the 1950s and smoking at your desk seemed to be the norm. That was when most people didn't think smoking harmed them. Now the sensible ones have realised the truth and stopped. The ones that continue also don't believe smoking harms others. That would be because there is no credible evidence to support that view. Not really surprising as there are a lot of fools about. You being their undisputed king ****wit. TMH. Get your head out of the sand. You are making yourself look a complete idiot. Nice snipping HWI. Do you have any comment to make, or do you want to make yourself look a complete idiot? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 28/08/2011 23:52, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , Steve wrote: The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. I find it very amusing. Non smokers always said how much they hated pubs because of the smoke. Now they're all non smoking, they're closing in droves... Govmint ministers also claimed that, but have very quiet since. I wonder why? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 29/08/2011 01:28, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 29/08/2011 01:06, Hugh - Was Invisible wrote: On 29/08/2011 01:00, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 28/08/2011 23:45, dennis@home wrote: "Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:24:40 +0100 Steve Walker wrote : As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's extraordinary now to think that there was a time (before I took up travelling) when people smoked on planes. A good while back I had a number of British Rail archive films of the 1950s and smoking at your desk seemed to be the norm. That was when most people didn't think smoking harmed them. Now the sensible ones have realised the truth and stopped. The ones that continue also don't believe smoking harms others. That would be because there is no credible evidence to support that view. Not really surprising as there are a lot of fools about. You being their undisputed king ****wit. TMH. Get your head out of the sand. You are making yourself look a complete idiot. Nice snipping HWI. Do you have any comment to make, or do you want to make yourself look a complete idiot? What snipping? |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 28/08/2011 23:52, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , Steve wrote: The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. I find it very amusing. Non smokers always said how much they hated pubs because of the smoke. Now they're all non smoking, they're closing in droves... Govmint ministers also claimed that, but have very quiet since. I wonder why? I smoke. I used to drive. There is no pub within walking distance and I am too old to cycle and frankly it ain't a worthwile experience to do the pain bit. So basically these days I don't go in a pub from one week to the next. Last time I went was simply to get a decent meal . We sat outside in the garden and smoked haha. basically the pub has lost its purpose. We can drink at home cheaper. we can smoke at home, we can watch the football/rugby/cricket at home. Its warmer at home. Its not full of ******s at home who sniff disapprovingly every time you roll a fag. We can take the dogs at home. We can eat for 1/10th the price and better food at home. I cant afford the diesel and the risk to my license to drive to the pub, and for what? to see a bunch of tired boring shitheads drinking and being 'social' while they work out who they can shag tonight? Or try and impress each other? |
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On 29/08/2011 00:46, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 28/08/2011 23:24, Steve Walker wrote: On 27/08/2011 17:20, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote: "The Medway Handyman" mocked: Why don't you try getting a life? Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it and his health by avoiding passive smoking. Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. Roy Castle? Alas not. Lung cancer yes. 10% of lung cancer deaths occur in non smokers. Most of the people I know who don't want anyone smoking near them are not overly concerned about passive smoking, they just can't stand the odour, the sore eyes, the sore throat and the smelly clothes they end up with from being around smokers. An entirely reasonable view. I have no wish to inflict the by products of smoking on others. Equally, I can't see why non smokers should inflict their views on smokers. Because smokers are the ones carrying out an action and inflicting their smoke on non-smokers, whereas non-smokers simply want them to stop doing so. We don't care whether you smoke or not, we simply want you not to inflict that smoke on us. If I kept squirting water around in a pub, everyone near me would rightly want me to stop, they would however have no objection to me watering my garden plants, as that wouldn't affect them. As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's a foul odour that travels considerable distances. As are many things, but we don't ban cheap perfume, body odour, farting, fried onions, McDonalds, diesel fuel, rape seed etc. I certainly wouldn't smell most of those from 30 feet away and those that I might, are serving useful purposes, except possibly the fried onions :) Funnily enough I did some work for a curry factory once - we installed an odour reduction system, as the smell of onions coming from their vents was irritating the nearby residents and the council were threatening to close them down. My wife is an ex-smoker (she promised her father a month before he was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer and other than one lapse, she has stuck to it), she frequently comments that she's amazed how she could ever have smoked, as she too can't stand the smell. I personally love the smell of secondhand smoke YMMY. Your choice, but the difference is that if someone is not smoking, you wouldn't find the clean air annoying, whereas I would find smoke in the air annoying. During the summer when it is hot we naturally like our patio door and windows open to get a breeze. At night we sleep with our bedroom window open. Our neighbours have a young child so they go outside to smoke and we end up suffering their smoke. We either have to put up with it or close the windows and struggle to sleep 'cos of the heat. Interesting point that. Smoking has been deliberately demonised over the years to the point of stupdity. Were it not for that, your neighbours would smoke indoors with no adverse affects to their child, in fact, according to many (supressed) studies, it would promote a resistance to smoking related illness.. Come on! My grandparents were heavy smokers, within weeks of redecorating their living room, their walls were thick with the polutants from cigarettes, with clear patches behind the pictures. With or without evidence, that kind of coating is going to be bad for the delicate tubes of a childs immature lungs! The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. The selfessness of non smokers amazes me. I'd suppot 'smoking' and 'non smoking' areas. Majority rule? As I've said, it doesn't work, the smokers are too selfish to follow the wishes of the majority, they just ruin the evening for everyone unless they get their way. Amongst my various groups of friends (ex school, ex university, ex work) no group had more than two smokers out of eight to ten people out for the night, yet everyone ended up stuck in the smokers' areas. If the non-smokers insisted on sitting in the non-smoking area, the smokers would reluctantly sit with us and then moan continually. My youngest daughter doesn't smoke. When she goes out with her mates, most of them disappear outside for a fag & leave her on her own. Now she goes out with them. In other words, her friends have reached the point where the addiction is calling and that is more important that staying chatting with her, so she has to fall in with their wishes or be abandoned. Secondly, every time one of the smokers tried to give up, the others would smoke in front of them and each time they lit up, they'd offer them one - as if they couldn't stand letting one get away! However, I do think that the coucils that are trying to ban smokers from lighting up in the street, parks, etc. are going too far; similarly with the existing ban on smoking in company vehicles; and also the hospitals and companies that ban employees from smoking in their own cars in their car-parks. Thank you for a reasoned view. :-) I have nothing against people smoking, I just don't want to have to put up with their smoke. SteveW |
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En el artículo , The Medway
Handyman escribió: Farting serves a useful purpose? Considering that it stops you exploding, yes :-) -- (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 27/08/2011 17:37, 'Mike' wrote:
"The Medway wrote in message ... On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote: "The Medway Handyman" mocked: Why don't you try getting a life? Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it and his health by avoiding passive smoking. Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. Margaret Horsborough 25 Colchester Road Leicester My next door neighbour when I lived in Leicester in the 60's and 70's A non smoker, died of Lung Cancer due to secondary/passive smoking whilst in an office environment. I would also like to add that the treatment that I received in hospital recently when I firs,t had a quadruple heart by pass, followed by a LUNG decortication, was enhanced because I didn't smoke and NEVER HAD SMOKED Come off your 'I know my rights' high horse. YOU pollute the air I breath. I don't pollute the air you breath. We have the same argument with you very selfish polluters on the cruise ships. I cruise a lot and have to endure you polluting MY balcony. If you were meant to smoke, you would have been born with a chimney out of you head. And Roy Castle, a famous case if I am not mistaken. TGH |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:04:41 +0100, Steve Walker
wrote: I certainly wouldn't smell most of those from 30 feet away and those that I might, are serving useful purposes, except possibly the fried onions :) Funnily enough I did some work for a curry factory once - we installed an odour reduction system, as the smell of onions coming from their vents was irritating the nearby residents and the council were threatening to close them down. snip SteveW Please go and install odour reduction systems on every DeadLucky Fried Buzzard outlet. How can they make so much stink? And it hangs around so much. I don't actually buy any takeaway foods but on the odd occasion that I have had some chicken, it has been OK. I guess it is something to do with the pressure cooker/frying technique that makes enough stink to fill several football pitches (or microWales). -- Rod |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
"polygonum" wrote in message . net... On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:04:41 +0100, Steve Walker wrote: I certainly wouldn't smell most of those from 30 feet away and those that I might, are serving useful purposes, except possibly the fried onions :) Funnily enough I did some work for a curry factory once - we installed an odour reduction system, as the smell of onions coming from their vents was irritating the nearby residents and the council were threatening to close them down. snip SteveW Please go and install odour reduction systems on every DeadLucky Fried Buzzard outlet. How can they make so much stink? And it hangs around so much. I don't actually buy any takeaway foods but on the odd occasion that I have had some chicken, it has been OK. I guess it is something to do with the pressure cooker/frying technique that makes enough stink to fill several football pitches (or microWales). -- Rod If the wind is in the wrong direction for us we get the smell from 2 Chinese, 1 Indian and 1 Fish and Chip Take Away and now a Chinese Restaurant/Buffet. In the other direction in the Summer, Sun Tan Oil from the beach! and from a neighbour? Cigarette smoke :-(( Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... |
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On 27/08/2011 6:42 PM, Dave East wrote:
Our next door neighbours are very heavy smokers and we get a bit fed up with the smell of it. Wondering if we bought one of those fairly big house fans and placed it on the garden table whether it would make any difference or would be it be a waste of time? The problem, like many problems, is really quite simple to solve if you use a little thought and technology. Use a gas detector that will react to nicotine. Like they use in aircraft toilets. Hook it up to a very loud burglar alarm type siren/bell on the offending neighbour's side of the house. When their smoke invades your living space the alarm will sound. And keep on sounding while detecting cigarette smoke. They will soon find another place to smoke. We have them in our work areas to stop staff illicitly smoking when not being observed by management. |
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Astounded from Medway wrote:
Your stupidity is simply astounding. Firstly you say "Rather like 'TMH', if the best you can come up with is a personal insult, then you have lost the argument". Followed by "When you have an IQ lower than your shoe size, it's usually best to keep quiet". That was a generalisation, but of course, if the cap fits... ! -- Interloper |
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