Hello everyone,
I am new here, and also rather new to gardening. I am moving next month to a house that is south-facing and contains a tiny front garden. (At the moment the only thing in it is weeds...)

I could post a pic of the front of the house though I noticed on the forum rules it advises us not to post pictures right away.

I would like to do something right away to improve the appearance. I plan to find some flowers to put in individual pots, but I'd also like to plant a couple climbers of some sort to climb up the front of the brick house. Looking for something not too fussy, and that will grow quickly.

Secondly, in the back garden (which would be north-facing) there is a lovely wooden arbour that is quite tall. Currently it is completely without any plants at all and is crying out for something. I am also looking for something very vigorous and fast growing that will also look lovely as well.

I don't have a huge budget so any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

Regards,
Sandra T

Be very wary of stuff that grows quickly, it can become a problem later. Better to be a bit patient.

The kind of climber that you have to secure on wires or a trellis is a bit more effort, but less of a problem than kind that will stick to your bricks and pull the pointing out.

Given you have a south-facing wall, why not grow a grape vine? There are a couple of amazing mildew-resistant cool-climate-ripening varieties now available, called Phoenix (white) and Regent (Black). I'm just tucking into sweet, delicious home-grown out-door grapes, from my Phoenix vine, even after this damp squib of a summer. I only planted the thing 18 months ago, and I've got about 12 bunches this year, and it has covered the garage wall. Of course, being deciduous, and requiring pruning, it isn't much to look at in the winter. I'm so delighted with it I've just put a Regent in too, on another wall.

But having a sunny wall, there are probably an amazing variety of climbers you can grow, but remember the great majority of hardy climbers are deciduous. Though a friend of mine got an abutilon to survive the winter on a south-facing house wall through last winter in Glos. Mine, supposely a hardier one, but against a fence, was frozen to the ground and has only recently resprouted a bit.

Thanks for the tips. Do you really think grapes would look ok on the front of a house?? I'll have to see how shady the arbour is in the back of the house, grapes might be a good idea there if it gets enough sun.
For the front I'd love something that could climb AND not hurt the brickwork that I could plant this autumn yet, hopefully.

On Sep 22, 6:48*pm, Sandra Tingle Sandra.Tingle.
wrote:
echinosum;937309 Wrote:





Be very wary of stuff that grows quickly, it can become a problem later..
Better to be a bit patient.

The kind of climber that you have to secure on wires or a trellis is a
bit more effort, but less of a problem than kind that will stick to your
bricks and pull the pointing out.

Given you have a south-facing wall, why not grow a grape vine? *There
are a couple of amazing mildew-resistant cool-climate-ripening varieties
now available, called Phoenix (white) and Regent (Black). *I'm just
tucking into sweet, delicious home-grown out-door grapes, from my
Phoenix vine, even after this damp squib of a summer. *I only planted
the thing 18 months ago, and I've got about 12 bunches this year, and it
has covered the garage wall. *Of course, being deciduous, and requiring
pruning, it isn't much to look at in the winter. *I'm so delighted with
it I've just put a Regent in too, on another wall.

But having a sunny wall, there are probably an amazing variety of
climbers you can grow, but remember the great majority of hardy climbers
are deciduous. *Though a friend of mine got an abutilon to survive the
winter on a south-facing house wall through last winter in Glos. *Mine,
supposely a hardier one, but against a fence, was frozen to the ground
and has only recently resprouted a bit.

Thanks for the tips. *Do you really think grapes would look ok on the
front of a house?? I'll have to see how shady the arbour is in the back
of the house, grapes might be a good idea there if it gets enough sun. *

For the front I'd love something that could climb AND not hurt the
brickwork that I could plant this autumn yet, hopefully.

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I'd still be inclined to go for a good climbing rose.

Dave Hill wrote:
I'd still be inclined to go for a good climbing rose.

We have a climbing rose (and jasmine and honeysuckle) on the front of our
house, and the next door neighbour is constantly bitching about it cos he
thinks it'll get into his gutters. :-(

Well thank you all for the advice, (and the advice about plants too). Actually I've never been reacted to quite this way before on a public forum. But as for newsgroups - I belonged to several of them over 15 years ago back when I had my first computer, but they seem rather outdated to me now and I'd rather post in a forum format. This is the way I am viewing the comments on my end: http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/united...ew-plants.html
Anyway, regarding some posters that find me so offensive that I need to be KF'd that's fine by me. And I spent half the day trying to figure that one out, Kung Foo'd, Kentucky-Fried, etc....

Sacha wrote:
Oh, just tell him you'll deal with it if it does. Why DO people worry
about something like that before it happens. If you were the sort of
people to allow it to happen and then neglect it, I could understand it
but you don't seem that way to me!

Nick is. Nick gets tangled up doing one thing and ignores /everything/
else, and pruning up a ladder would be his job.

Neighbour has already hacked it down once, and is regularly hacking down and
throwing back and pushing back anything of ours that encroaches over his
fence.

Sandra Tingle wrote in
:


Hello everyone,
I am new here, and also rather new to gardening. I am moving next month
to a house that is south-facing and contains a tiny front garden. (At
the moment the only thing in it is weeds...)

I could post a pic of the front of the house though I noticed on the
forum rules it advises us not to post pictures right away.

I would like to do something right away to improve the appearance. I
plan to find some flowers to put in individual pots, but I'd also like
to plant a couple climbers of some sort to climb up the front of the
brick house. Looking for something not too fussy, and that will grow
quickly.

Secondly, in the back garden (which would be north-facing) there is a
lovely wooden arbour that is quite tall. Currently it is completely
without any plants at all and is crying out for something. I am also
looking for something very vigorous and fast growing that will also look
lovely as well.

I don't have a huge budget so any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

Regards,
Sandra T





Can you ask in gardenbanter instead please.

Baz

Baz wrote in :

Sandra Tingle wrote in
:


Hello everyone,
I am new here, and also rather new to gardening. I am moving next month
to a house that is south-facing and contains a tiny front garden. (At
the moment the only thing in it is weeds...)

I could post a pic of the front of the house though I noticed on the
forum rules it advises us not to post pictures right away.

I would like to do something right away to improve the appearance. I
plan to find some flowers to put in individual pots, but I'd also like
to plant a couple climbers of some sort to climb up the front of the
brick house. Looking for something not too fussy, and that will grow
quickly.

Secondly, in the back garden (which would be north-facing) there is a
lovely wooden arbour that is quite tall. Currently it is completely
without any plants at all and is crying out for something. I am also
looking for something very vigorous and fast growing that will also look
lovely as well.

I don't have a huge budget so any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

Regards,
Sandra T





Can you ask in gardenbanter instead please.

Baz


Oh and by the way, I have KF'd you, and anyone who objects to gardenbanter
posts should do the same.
This is a newsgroup not an extension of the gardenbanter website.

It is touch and go as to whether Virginmedia need to be aware of your abuse
of this NG.

Baz

In article , Baz
writes
Oh and by the way, I have KF'd you, and anyone who objects to gardenbanter
posts should do the same.
This is a newsgroup not an extension of the gardenbanter website.

It is touch and go as to whether Virginmedia need to be aware of your abuse
of this NG.

Absolute rubbish. Also, cutting your nose off to spite your face.

If you report it as abuse, the isp would laugh in your face.

--
regards andyw

"Baz" wrote in message
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Baz wrote in :

Sandra Tingle wrote in
:


Hello everyone,
I am new here, and also rather new to gardening. I am moving next month
to a house that is south-facing and contains a tiny front garden. (At
the moment the only thing in it is weeds...)

I could post a pic of the front of the house though I noticed on the
forum rules it advises us not to post pictures right away.

I would like to do something right away to improve the appearance. I
plan to find some flowers to put in individual pots, but I'd also like
to plant a couple climbers of some sort to climb up the front of the
brick house. Looking for something not too fussy, and that will grow
quickly.

Secondly, in the back garden (which would be north-facing) there is a
lovely wooden arbour that is quite tall. Currently it is completely
without any plants at all and is crying out for something. I am also
looking for something very vigorous and fast growing that will also look
lovely as well.

I don't have a huge budget so any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

Regards,
Sandra T





Can you ask in gardenbanter instead please.

Baz


Oh and by the way, I have KF'd you, and anyone who objects to gardenbanter
posts should do the same.
This is a newsgroup not an extension of the gardenbanter website.

It is touch and go as to whether Virginmedia need to be aware of your
abuse
of this NG.

Baz

Abuse?...pardon?

Bill

In message , Martin
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:55:12 +0100, "Bill Grey"
wrote:


"Baz" wrote in message
...
Baz wrote in :

Sandra Tingle wrote in
:


Hello everyone,
I am new here, and also rather new to gardening. I am moving next month
to a house that is south-facing and contains a tiny front garden. (At
the moment the only thing in it is weeds...)

I could post a pic of the front of the house though I noticed on the
forum rules it advises us not to post pictures right away.

I would like to do something right away to improve the appearance. I
plan to find some flowers to put in individual pots, but I'd also like
to plant a couple climbers of some sort to climb up the front of the
brick house. Looking for something not too fussy, and that will grow
quickly.

Secondly, in the back garden (which would be north-facing) there is a
lovely wooden arbour that is quite tall. Currently it is completely
without any plants at all and is crying out for something. I am also
looking for something very vigorous and fast growing that will also look
lovely as well.

I don't have a huge budget so any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

Regards,
Sandra T





Can you ask in gardenbanter instead please.

Baz


Oh and by the way, I have KF'd you, and anyone who objects to gardenbanter
posts should do the same.
This is a newsgroup not an extension of the gardenbanter website.

It is touch and go as to whether Virginmedia need to be aware of your
abuse
of this NG.

Baz

Abuse?...pardon?

Using without permission posts taken from urg to make it look as if
commercial gardenbanter is a busy forum.

That is not applicable; a GardenBanter user is not GardenBanter.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

May I just suggest if the group at "urg" would like to be in full control of who is contributing - why not start a forum or website?

All I did was post on what appeared to be a gardening forum and was blasted by many people here for my apparent lack of knowledge regarding newsgroups. Newsgroups have fallen out of favour years ago, and I wouldn't have expected nor assumed I needed to read the "instructions" before posting on a forum. I belong to many forums/blogs, I have for years, and have never come across another forum that somehow links to a newsgroup.

What I find more interesting than the topic of gardening is how serious an offence this is considered by some.

In the meantime, I've found an actual gardening forum where people are welcoming and helpful.

I would suggest to this group to start your own forum so another innocent blogger doesn't go through what I've gone through, quite frankily, it is ridiculous. Another suggestion would be for some members to read up on internet "etiquette" which is obviously lacking.

For those that actually helped with advice I do thank you. Life is far too short to get so wound up over who is posting accidentally posting on a newsgroup.

Sacha wrote in :

Oh and by the way, I have KF'd you, and anyone who objects to
gardenbanter posts should do the same.
This is a newsgroup not an extension of the gardenbanter website.

It is touch and go as to whether Virginmedia need to be aware of your
abuse of this NG.

Baz


Very unfair, imo. Her post was sent here by GB, not by her. It's to
be hoped Sandra hasn't been put off the idea of joining urg or of the
notion that gardeners are normally quite helpful people.


That is my point! Sent here by gardenbanter.

Anyway which end up, I'm out of here (much to the amusement of others)

Baz
Fin.

"Baz" wrote in message
...
Sacha wrote in :

Oh and by the way, I have KF'd you, and anyone who objects to
gardenbanter posts should do the same.
This is a newsgroup not an extension of the gardenbanter website.

It is touch and go as to whether Virginmedia need to be aware of your
abuse of this NG.

Baz


Very unfair, imo. Her post was sent here by GB, not by her. It's to
be hoped Sandra hasn't been put off the idea of joining urg or of the
notion that gardeners are normally quite helpful people.

So why didn't she subscribe directly to uk.rec.gardening, or doesn't she
know anything about newsgroups?

Alan