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Otish - My New Camera
Posting to thank all those who gave advice in response to my post a
while ago about acquiring a new digital camera. I took my time (and a lot of time of a very helpful chap in one of the stores of a certain national chain) and ended up with a Canon Powershot G12 (which I bought online). I thought that £342 with an extra battery, case, SD card and mini tripod was a reasonable price so please don't tell me I could have got it cheaper! Now to immerse myself in the manual! I've taken a couple of photos using all the auto settings and have managed to get a decently detailed spider shot (spiders were what started the camera quest!) among others. Something to keep me occupied through the winter months and maybe I'll be able to match DaveH's plant parts shots next year. So thanks again everyone for the advice. Cheers, Jake ================================================== =========== URGling from the less wet end of Swansea Bay where it's about the same moisture-wise as the more wet end. www.rivendell.org.uk |
Otish - My New Camera
On Oct 27, 11:34*pm, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:49:36 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:03:52 +0100, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote: Posting to thank all those who gave advice in response to my post a while ago about acquiring a new digital camera. I took my time (and a lot of time of a very helpful chap in one of the stores of a certain national chain) and ended up with a Canon Powershot G12 (which I bought online). I thought that 342 with an extra battery, case, SD card and mini tripod was a reasonable price so please don't tell me I could have got it cheaper! Who did you buy from at that price? A rioter? *Looks like you've got a good deal. -- Martin If money is an issue but you are interested in high quality results you would have been far better of with a used DSLR, rather than a G12. These cameras are just fine for anyone with limited photographic ambitions, but the fact that you cannot change the lens, means they are far from ideal for more serious photography. |
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On 28/10/2011 08:18, Steerpike wrote:
On Oct 27, 11:34 pm, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:49:36 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:03:52 +0100, JakeNospam@invalid wrote: Posting to thank all those who gave advice in response to my post a while ago about acquiring a new digital camera. I took my time (and a lot of time of a very helpful chap in one of the stores of a certain national chain) and ended up with a Canon Powershot G12 (which I bought online). I thought that 342 with an extra battery, case, SD card and mini tripod was a reasonable price so please don't tell me I could have got it cheaper! Who did you buy from at that price? A rioter? Looks like you've got a good deal. -- Martin If money is an issue but you are interested in high quality results you would have been far better of with a used DSLR, rather than a G12. These cameras are just fine for anyone with limited photographic ambitions, but the fact that you cannot change the lens, means they are far from ideal for more serious photography. Depends whether those spiders are in your own back yard or whether you'll be lugging loads of equipment around on your impromptu walks. |
Otish - My New Camera
On 28/10/2011 09:36, stuart noble wrote:
On 28/10/2011 08:18, Steerpike wrote: On Oct 27, 11:34 pm, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:49:36 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:03:52 +0100, JakeNospam@invalid wrote: Posting to thank all those who gave advice in response to my post a while ago about acquiring a new digital camera. I took my time (and a lot of time of a very helpful chap in one of the stores of a certain national chain) and ended up with a Canon Powershot G12 (which I bought online). I thought that 342 with an extra battery, case, SD card and mini tripod was a reasonable price so please don't tell me I could have got it cheaper! Who did you buy from at that price? A rioter? Looks like you've got a good deal. If money is an issue but you are interested in high quality results you would have been far better of with a used DSLR, rather than a G12. It would have to be a used SLR *and* a decent quality macro lens for the sort of close-ups that he wants to do. The advantage for the SLR would be that you can use a ring flash easily on the physically larger body. I don't know if anyone does a LED or flash addon intended for P&S cameras. They are available for SLRs for a range of prices. eg http://www.srb-griturn.com/led-macro...ght-1710-p.asp These cameras are just fine for anyone with limited photographic ambitions, but the fact that you cannot change the lens, means they are far from ideal for more serious photography. Depends whether those spiders are in your own back yard or whether you'll be lugging loads of equipment around on your impromptu walks. Sometimes it is more important to have a small camera with you and get the shot than have a bag full of gear in the car. I use a slim Ixus 100IS as my always with me camera - it replaces an ageing IxusV. The only thing where P&S really falls down is on shutter lag compared to the hair trigger and repetition rate of a full DSLR. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
Otish - My New Camera
These cameras are just fine for anyone with limited photographic ambitions, but the fact that you cannot change the lens, means they are far from ideal for more serious photography. Depends whether those spiders are in your own back yard or whether you'll be lugging loads of equipment around on your impromptu walks. Sometimes it is more important to have a small camera with you and get the shot than have a bag full of gear in the car. I use a slim Ixus 100IS as my always with me camera - it replaces an ageing IxusV. The only thing where P&S really falls down is on shutter lag compared to the hair trigger and repetition rate of a full DSLR. I'm still on 3.2 megapixels for the always with camera. Never really felt the need, or seen it as a civic duty, to upgrade :-) |
Otish - My New Camera
"stuart noble" wrote in message ... These cameras are just fine for anyone with limited photographic ambitions, but the fact that you cannot change the lens, means they are far from ideal for more serious photography. Depends whether those spiders are in your own back yard or whether you'll be lugging loads of equipment around on your impromptu walks. Sometimes it is more important to have a small camera with you and get the shot than have a bag full of gear in the car. I use a slim Ixus 100IS as my always with me camera - it replaces an ageing IxusV. The only thing where P&S really falls down is on shutter lag compared to the hair trigger and repetition rate of a full DSLR. I'm still on 3.2 megapixels for the always with camera. Never really felt the need, or seen it as a civic duty, to upgrade :-) I have a Fuji 6 Megs which slips into my shirt pocket when we are cruising. Got it in the first instance when we went on a World Cruise and it has served us well on subsequent cruises. When we cruised to the Arctic, my wife used this one. For more detailed and professional use I have a Samsung GX10 which I use for photo shoots. I use this one for all the Theatre shots, especially if they are going into the local press. I had one in last week's paper and another one this week. It's a bit bulky though and if I take a lens change, battery and spare card, then I need a shoulder bag. This is the one I now take cruising. Have to be careful where we go ashore though, some places are 'iffy' so I leave that one back on board. Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... |
Otish - My New Camera
"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message ... Posting to thank all those who gave advice in response to my post a while ago about acquiring a new digital camera. I took my time (and a lot of time of a very helpful chap in one of the stores of a certain national chain) and ended up with a Canon Powershot G12 (which I bought online). I thought that £342 with an extra battery, case, SD card and mini tripod was a reasonable price so please don't tell me I could have got it cheaper! Now to immerse myself in the manual! I've taken a couple of photos using all the auto settings and have managed to get a decently detailed spider shot (spiders were what started the camera quest!) among others. Something to keep me occupied through the winter months and maybe I'll be able to match DaveH's plant parts shots next year. So thanks again everyone for the advice. Cheers, Jake ================================================== =========== URGling from the less wet end of Swansea Bay where it's about the same moisture-wise as the more wet end. www.rivendell.org.uk Well done - great choice (here speaks a dedicated Canon - man :-) ) You will find the swivel viewfinder screen invaluable for extreme close-ups - set the camera mode on macro (usually the icon is a little plant) Work your way round the camera, and I suggest using Aperture priority(A/V) to start with. Good luck and please report back. Bill |
Otish - My New Camera
"Steerpike" wrote in message ... On Oct 27, 11:34 pm, Martin wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:49:36 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:03:52 +0100, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote: Posting to thank all those who gave advice in response to my post a while ago about acquiring a new digital camera. I took my time (and a lot of time of a very helpful chap in one of the stores of a certain national chain) and ended up with a Canon Powershot G12 (which I bought online). I thought that 342 with an extra battery, case, SD card and mini tripod was a reasonable price so please don't tell me I could have got it cheaper! Who did you buy from at that price? A rioter? Looks like you've got a good deal. -- Martin If money is an issue but you are interested in high quality results you would have been far better of with a used DSLR, rather than a G12. These cameras are just fine for anyone with limited photographic ambitions, but the fact that you cannot change the lens, means they are far from ideal for more serious photography. Rubbish. Jake never said he was interested in "Serious Photography", anyway the Canon G sereis are particularly fine cameras. As for "anyone with limited photographic ambitions" - you do realise that these cameras are very sophisticated with excellent lenses. I have a Canon 5D Mkll DSLR and a G11. I prefer the G11 for any macro plat shots I take. That puts your arguement in perstective. Bill |
Otish - My New Camera
In article , 'Mike'
writes I have a Fuji 6 Megs which slips into my shirt pocket when we are cruising I guess I'm probably the only one that got a very unpleasant image from that sentence... -- regards andyw |
Otish - My New Camera
"news" wrote in message ... In article , 'Mike' writes I have a Fuji 6 Megs which slips into my shirt pocket when we are cruising I guess I'm probably the only one that got a very unpleasant image from that sentence... -- regards andyw No doubt the regulars on this newsgroup/forum (urg/gardenbanter) will manage to add some rubbish to this posting. They usually do take every opportunity to have a dig ............ the gardening connection :-)) ............ at me. Although I must say it is the urg contributors who are the normal ones to have a go. You just watch :-)) Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... |
Otish - My New Camera
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:18:38 -0700 (PDT), Steerpike
wrote: If money is an issue but you are interested in high quality results you would have been far better of with a used DSLR, rather than a G12. These cameras are just fine for anyone with limited photographic ambitions, but the fact that you cannot change the lens, means they are far from ideal for more serious photography. I thought a lot about a second hand DSLR camera but firstly I'm not an ambitious photographer, I simply want to be able to take some decent shots of little critters in the garden and suchlike plus decent holiday photos (I wanted a viewfinder for long distance stuff as I've never been able to see the LCD screen in the sun on any camera I've had). Every DSLR camera I saw was really too bulky. Secondly, whilst I'm not against second hand per se, I was uncomfortable with going "used" on technology that I wasn't familiar with. I'd never know whether the bad shot was down to a faulty camera or my lack of knowledge about settings. The G12 was relatively simple when demo'd in the store. Cheers, Jake ================================================== =========== URGling from the less wet end of Swansea Bay where it's about the same moisture-wise as the more wet end. The cat's web site is at pillie.me.uk. |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:36:58 +0100, stuart noble
wrote: Depends whether those spiders are in your own back yard or whether you'll be lugging loads of equipment around on your impromptu walks. Could be anywhere. I definitely don't want bulk, just to indulge an interest rather than serious photography. Cheers, Jake ================================================== =========== URGling from the less wet end of Swansea Bay where it's about the same moisture-wise as the more wet end. The cat's web site is at pillie.me.uk. |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:03:31 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote: I don't know if anyone does a LED or flash addon intended for P&S cameras. They are available for SLRs for a range of prices. The G12 has a range of hot shoe, wired and wireless flash options plus lens options if I want to pay for them (!). Sometimes it is more important to have a small camera with you and get the shot than have a bag full of gear in the car. I use a slim Ixus 100IS as my always with me camera - it replaces an ageing IxusV. Exactly. The G12 is complicated enough though it seems (I haven't got that far yet) that if there are particular settings that I want to use repeatedly, I can spend the time setting up and then save that combination to a one-button memory so I suppose I'll have the best of both worlds. The only thing where P&S really falls down is on shutter lag compared to the hair trigger and repetition rate of a full DSLR. That doesn't worry me (at least not yet!). Cheers, Jake ================================================== =========== URGling from the less wet end of Swansea Bay where it's about the same moisture-wise as the more wet end. The cat's web site is at pillie.me.uk. |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:35:29 +0100, "Bill Grey"
wrote: "Steerpike" wrote in message ... On Oct 27, 11:34 pm, Martin wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:49:36 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:03:52 +0100, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote: Posting to thank all those who gave advice in response to my post a while ago about acquiring a new digital camera. I took my time (and a lot of time of a very helpful chap in one of the stores of a certain national chain) and ended up with a Canon Powershot G12 (which I bought online). I thought that 342 with an extra battery, case, SD card and mini tripod was a reasonable price so please don't tell me I could have got it cheaper! Who did you buy from at that price? A rioter? Looks like you've got a good deal. -- Martin If money is an issue but you are interested in high quality results you would have been far better of with a used DSLR, rather than a G12. These cameras are just fine for anyone with limited photographic ambitions, but the fact that you cannot change the lens, means they are far from ideal for more serious photography. Rubbish. Jake never said he was interested in "Serious Photography", anyway the Canon G sereis are particularly fine cameras. As for "anyone with limited photographic ambitions" - you do realise that these cameras are very sophisticated with excellent lenses. I have a Canon 5D Mkll DSLR and a G11. I prefer the G11 for any macro plat shots I take. That puts your arguement in perstective. Bill The issue isn't money but "value for money". Having compared the Canon with Lumix, Nikon and Fuji cameras, the Canon won it in my view (the guy in the shop seemed to be edging me in that direction as well even though he knew I wouldn't be buying that day). It'll suit my purpose which is fun photography rather than "serious". I gave up trying to follow the manual on screen so printed it out. Close on an inch (2-sided printing). As I said, something to read through the winter :) Cheers, Jake ================================================== =========== URGling from the less wet end of Swansea Bay where it's about the same moisture-wise as the more wet end. The cat's web site is at pillie.me.uk. |
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On Oct 28, 2:07*pm, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:35:29 +0100, "Bill Grey" wrote: "Steerpike" wrote in message .... On Oct 27, 11:34 pm, Martin wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:49:36 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:03:52 +0100, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote: Posting to thank all those who gave advice in response to my post a while ago about acquiring a new digital camera. I took my time (and a lot of time of a very helpful chap in one of the stores of a certain national chain) and ended up with a Canon Powershot G12 (which I bought online). I thought that 342 with an extra battery, case, SD card and mini tripod was a reasonable price so please don't tell me I could have got it cheaper! Who did you buy from at that price? A rioter? Looks like you've got a good deal. -- Martin If money is an issue but you are interested in high quality results you would have been far better of with a used DSLR, rather than a G12. These cameras are just fine for anyone with limited photographic ambitions, but the fact that you cannot change the lens, means they are far from ideal for more serious photography. Rubbish. Jake never said he was interested in "Serious Photography", *anyway the Canon G sereis are particularly fine cameras. As for "anyone with limited photographic ambitions" - you do realise that these cameras are very sophisticated with excellent lenses. I have a Canon 5D Mkll DSLR and a G11. I *prefer the G11 for any macro plat shots I take. That puts your arguement in perstective. Bill The issue isn't money but "value for money". Having compared the Canon with Lumix, Nikon and Fuji cameras, the Canon won it in my view (the guy in the shop seemed to be edging me in that direction as well even though he knew I wouldn't be buying that day). It'll suit my purpose which is fun photography rather than "serious". I gave up trying to follow the manual on screen so printed it out. Close on an inch (2-sided printing). As I said, something to read through the winter :) Cheers, Jake ================================================== =========== URGling from the less wet end of Swansea Bay where it's about the same moisture-wise as the more wet end. The cat's web site is at pillie.me.uk. I think if you had actually seen first hand how much better the results are that you would get from a DSLR, then I dont think its likely you would have taken the ridiculous sales blurb of the person who put the G12 into you seriously! Sure get a cheap point and shot to carry with you, but for anything very vaguely serious a DSLR is going to work a whole lot better in pretty much every situation. |
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