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Janet Tweedy[_2_] 17-02-2012 06:04 PM

Barbed Wire and the law
 
In article
, RJS
writes
Pyracantha is a good point.

I think tho' that a few, helpful contributors are forgetting that this
fence is being inserted into an existing Beech hedge that is 12' high
and about 8' deep on the woodland side.

Richard



What about laying the hedge? I.e. Cutting half through some long bits
and bending and weaving them into the existing structure?
--
Janet Tweedy


thirty-six 17-02-2012 10:36 PM

Barbed Wire and the law
 
On Feb 17, 6:04*pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article
, RJS
writes

Pyracantha is a good point.


I think tho' that a few, helpful contributors are forgetting that this
fence is being inserted into an existing Beech hedge that is 12' high
and about 8' deep on the woodland side.


Richard


What about laying the hedge? I.e. Cutting half *through some long bits


It's 9/10 way through.

and bending and weaving them into the existing structure?


Not without sap you wont and a professional shouldn't touch it at this
end of the year.

RJS 18-02-2012 05:20 PM

Barbed Wire and the law
 
On Feb 16, 10:46*am, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

So is there a faster way to regenerate a mature beech hedge than about 16
years of laborious cutting back?


*Long established beech will respond to brutal treatment. Get a chainsaw
and reduce it to a foot tall; giving you good access to install the
fencing and give the root area a good mulch with old manure. *The regrowth
will be dense to the bottom and regular trimming to the correct shape will
keep it that way. If you install your fence close to the stumps,
eventually it will be completely concealed within the new hedge growth.

As the hedge regrows, to keep it dense at the bottom, the bottom needs
light. So the sides should be wider at the base and narrower at the top.

* *Janet


Hello Janet. Thanks for that. Two questions: the fence will be on
the due south side of the hedge. Would the hedge survive at a height
of 1' when shaded by an adjacent fence of 5 or 6' such that the hedge
(stumps?) receive no sun before midday? Also, in addition to the
shading problem, would a beech hedge that currently has no side growth
below about 2' recover from being cut down to below this height?

TIA

Richard

Janet 18-02-2012 06:32 PM

Barbed Wire and the law
 
In article 2535b2c3-f970-47fa-9733-309d7fa6e8f8
@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says...

On Feb 16, 10:46*am, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

So is there a faster way to regenerate a mature beech hedge than about 16
years of laborious cutting back?


*Long established beech will respond to brutal treatment. Get a chainsaw
and reduce it to a foot tall; giving you good access to install the
fencing and give the root area a good mulch with old manure. *The regrowth
will be dense to the bottom and regular trimming to the correct shape will
keep it that way. If you install your fence close to the stumps,
eventually it will be completely concealed within the new hedge growth.

As the hedge regrows, to keep it dense at the bottom, the bottom needs
light. So the sides should be wider at the base and narrower at the top..

* *Janet


Hello Janet. Thanks for that. Two questions: the fence will be on
the due south side of the hedge. Would the hedge survive at a height
of 1' when shaded by an adjacent fence of 5 or 6' such that the hedge
(stumps?) receive no sun before midday?


? I thought you were planning a wire mesh fence; they don't cast
appreciable shade. I wouldn't recommend erecting any full-barrier wooden
fence close to a beech hedge. They are likely to damage each other.

Janet.

RJS 18-02-2012 07:56 PM

Barbed Wire and the law
 
On Feb 18, 6:32*pm, Janet wrote:


*? I thought you were planning a wire mesh fence; they don't cast
appreciable shade. I wouldn't recommend erecting any *full-barrier wooden
fence close to a beech hedge. They are likely to damage each other.

* *Janet.


Hi Janet

Yes, sorry. I was going to erect a mesh dog-barrier of, say, 4' in
height and then increase the height by, originally, barbed-wire to
make it person proof as well. The barbed-wire is now doubtful after
all the legal mutterings. I suppose that I could, and I guess that
this is what you may have imagined, cut the 'outside' of the hedge
back to the trunks at whatever height is needed and install a
chainlink fence close to the trunks. Is that what you imagined?

Whatever I erect must maintain security.

Having managed to scratch a cornea while preparing the ground along
the outside of the hedge on Thursday - despite safety goggles - I've
rather lost interest and have asked a fencing contractor to visit next
week to see what they can suggest.

Richard


Janet 18-02-2012 08:04 PM

Barbed Wire and the law
 
In article 9c071008-1bfa-4537-a303-
, says...

On Feb 18, 6:32*pm, Janet wrote:


*? I thought you were planning a wire mesh fence; they don't cast
appreciable shade. I wouldn't recommend erecting any *full-barrier wooden
fence close to a beech hedge. They are likely to damage each other.

* *Janet.


Hi Janet

Yes, sorry. I was going to erect a mesh dog-barrier of, say, 4' in
height and then increase the height by, originally, barbed-wire to
make it person proof as well. The barbed-wire is now doubtful after
all the legal mutterings. I suppose that I could, and I guess that
this is what you may have imagined, cut the 'outside' of the hedge
back to the trunks at whatever height is needed and install a
chainlink fence close to the trunks. Is that what you imagined?


Well, I'd be much more ruthless with the hedge and cut it to a foot
high. I've seen this done (farming neighbour) and it regrew very fast. The
fence will be your security barrier.

Having managed to scratch a cornea


ouch

while preparing the ground along
the outside of the hedge on Thursday - despite safety goggles - I've
rather lost interest and have asked a fencing contractor to visit next
week to see what they can suggest.


Remember, Rylock stockfence is far cheaper and faster to erect than
chainlink. So he might not mention that unless you ask :-)

Janet



Janet Tweedy[_2_] 20-02-2012 05:49 PM

Barbed Wire and the law
 
In article
, RJS
writes
The dogs go through the gaps at the bottom of the hedge, so the
netting is a low-level obstruction for them.

Unfortunately I can't get the swing to hammer posts into the ground,
hence the Metposts.



If it's the dogs you worry about then stock fencing would be fine.
Barbed wire won't keep much out in the way of humans as Janet said but
Stock fencing along a hedge however gappy would stop dogs getting
through and is considerably cheaper than chain link.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Jules Richardson 21-02-2012 03:51 PM

Barbed Wire and the law
 
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:49:59 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote:
If it's the dogs you worry about then stock fencing would be fine.
Barbed wire won't keep much out in the way of humans as Janet said but
Stock fencing along a hedge however gappy would stop dogs getting
through and is considerably cheaper than chain link.


Or deer fencing, given that there's an existing hedge - it works out to
about 9p/foot here.


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