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AL_n 17-03-2012 07:03 PM

Climbing plant race.....
 
I wanted something to quickly climb up and cover a pergola/archway thing in
my garden, to provide more privacy from a nearby road. I took everone's
advice, and didn't buy a Rusian vine, although I was sorely tempted, due to
my eagreness for quick results. I deceded instead, to buy a honeysuckle. I
planted that last July. It hasn't grown much since then, so I bought a
Clematis Montana a few weeks ago. I planted that about 2ft away. It hasn't
shown shown much sign of life. Today I happened upon a passiflora, about
the same height as my clematios and honeysuckle. I bought it and planted
it, at the same location.

I now have the three climbers, each planted 2 feet from each other, and all
poised, ready to start their race up the pergola/porchway thing!

I'm not taking bets on which will grow the fastest, but I would apprecieate
your opinions on what to expect by, say mid-summer. Each of the three
plants is about 30" tall right now... All three plants will be in the shade
until they reach the top of the 5ft wall they are planted behind.

Many thanks...

Al

harry 18-03-2012 08:27 AM

Climbing plant race.....
 
On Mar 17, 7:03*pm, "AL_n" wrote:
I wanted something to quickly climb up and cover a pergola/archway thing in
my garden, to provide more privacy from a nearby road. I took everone's
advice, and didn't buy a Rusian vine, although I was sorely tempted, due to
my eagreness for quick results. I deceded instead, to buy a honeysuckle. I
planted that last July. It hasn't grown much since then, so I bought a
Clematis Montana a few weeks ago. I planted that about 2ft away. It hasn't
shown shown much sign of life. Today I happened upon a passiflora, about
the same height as my clematios and honeysuckle. I bought it and planted
it, at the same location.

I now have the three climbers, each planted 2 feet from each other, and all
poised, ready to start their race up the pergola/porchway thing!

I'm not taking bets on which will grow the fastest, but I would apprecieate
your opinions on what to expect by, say mid-summer. Each of the three
plants is about 30" tall right now... All three plants will be in the shade
until they reach the top of the 5ft wall they are planted behind.

Many thanks...

Al


Heh Heh. All these plants take time to establish. Even Russian vine.
You are a member of the "instant gratification" cult.

Sometimes possible in gardening but at vast expense.
If you're lucky, your climbers will put on a couple of feet in the
first year.
In general, most climbers double every year.
Except Russian vine which trebles. :-)

Derek Turner 18-03-2012 08:55 AM

Climbing plant race.....
 
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:03:09 +0000, AL_n wrote:

I wanted something to quickly climb up and cover a pergola/archway thing
in my garden, to provide more privacy from a nearby road.


Probably too late now but a Golden hop or three would fill the bill. It
has two advantages: 1. It dies right back in the winter and gives you the
chance to repaint the pergola and 2. You can make beer from the fruit.

AL_n 18-03-2012 12:29 PM

Climbing plant race.....
 
Derek Turner wrote in
:

I wanted something to quickly climb up and cover a pergola/archway
thing in my garden, to provide more privacy from a nearby road.


Probably too late now but a Golden hop or three would fill the bill.
It has two advantages: 1. It dies right back in the winter and gives
you the chance to repaint the pergola and 2. You can make beer from
the fruit.


I must look that one up (for other places in t'garden) Thanks..

Will anyone like to bet on which of my three contenders will climb 3 mtrs
first?

Whichever it is, I will buy another, because I am bulding a second pergola
that need covering...

Thanks...

Al


Dave Hill 18-03-2012 12:31 PM

Climbing plant race.....
 
On Mar 18, 12:29*pm, "AL_n" wrote:
Derek Turner wrote :

I wanted something to quickly climb up and cover a pergola/archway
thing in my garden, to provide more privacy from a nearby road.


Probably too late now but a Golden hop or three would fill the bill.
It has two advantages: 1. It dies right back in the winter and gives
you the chance to repaint the pergola and 2. You can make beer from
the fruit.


I must look that one up (for other places in t'garden) Thanks..

Will anyone like to bet on which of my three contenders will climb 3 mtrs
first?

Whichever it is, I will buy another, because I am bulding a second pergola
that need covering...

Thanks...

Al


I'd plant some nice tall Sweet Peas and Morning glory to give you a
show for this year.

AL_n 18-03-2012 02:49 PM

Climbing plant race.....
 
Dave Hill wrote in news:83e16005-a9e2-406d-
:

I'd plant some nice tall Sweet Peas and Morning glory to give you a
show for this year.


Dave, Thanks for the suggestion. I do have some morning glory seedlings on
the go. I didn't know that sweet peas were a useful quick climber. I must
look into those.

I'm primarily interested in fast growth above than appearance.

Al

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 18-03-2012 05:44 PM

Climbing plant race.....
 

"AL_n" wrote in message
...
Derek Turner wrote in
:

I wanted something to quickly climb up and cover a pergola/archway
thing in my garden, to provide more privacy from a nearby road.


Probably too late now but a Golden hop or three would fill the bill.
It has two advantages: 1. It dies right back in the winter and gives
you the chance to repaint the pergola and 2. You can make beer from
the fruit.


I must look that one up (for other places in t'garden) Thanks..

Will anyone like to bet on which of my three contenders will climb 3 mtrs
first?

Whichever it is, I will buy another, because I am bulding a second pergola
that need covering...

Thanks...

Al


In terms of speed in the first year after planting the surprise winner here
has always been rambling roses. mine usually exceed 3M a year

Cobaea pringlei does 6M+ every year from the ground (Much like the suggested
Hops)

Akebia's and Holboellias are also fast growers

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


Rod[_5_] 18-03-2012 06:31 PM

Climbing plant race.....
 
On Sunday, 18 March 2012 12:29:14 UTC, AL_n wrote:
Derek Turner wrote in
:

I wanted something to quickly climb up and cover a pergola/archway
thing in my garden, to provide more privacy from a nearby road.


Probably too late now but a Golden hop or three would fill the bill.
It has two advantages: 1. It dies right back in the winter and gives
you the chance to repaint the pergola and 2. You can make beer from
the fruit.


I must look that one up (for other places in t'garden) Thanks..

Will anyone like to bet on which of my three contenders will climb 3 mtrs
first?

Whichever it is, I will buy another, because I am bulding a second pergola
that need covering...

Thanks...

Al


My money if I were prepared to bet on anything in gardening would be on the Clematis montana. "0 years and it'll be pulling he pergola down if you don't control it but it's still my favourite clematis especially the form 'Elizabeth'
Rod

echinosum 20-03-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek Turner (Post 953597)
Probably too late now but a Golden hop or three would fill the bill. It
has two advantages: 1. It dies right back in the winter and gives you the
chance to repaint the pergola and 2. You can make beer from the fruit.

I have a golden hop. Unfortunately it shows little tendency to be golden.

kay 31-03-2012 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL_n (Post 953563)

I'm not taking bets on which will grow the fastest, but I would apprecieate
your opinions on what to expect by, say mid-summer. Each of the three
plants is about 30" tall right now... All three plants will be in the shade
until they reach the top of the 5ft wall they are planted behind.

Many thanks...

Al

By mid summer, I'd expect perhaps 60 inches.

The honeysuckle will take an early lead (but won't flower this year), but will be soon overtaken by the clematis, which, within 5 years, will demolish the pergola. How the passion fruit will cope amid this, I don't know!

I think all of us, as new gardeners, make the mistake of Clematis montana on a small structure - I now prune mine by, each year, sawing through another 2inch thick stem and leaving time and the wind to get rid of the remains from 20ft up in the Sorbus.

AL_n 01-04-2012 09:30 PM

Climbing plant race.....
 
Sacha wrote in :

I'm not taking bets on which will grow the fastest, but I would
apprecieate your opinions on what to expect by, say mid-summer. Each
of the three plants is about 30" tall right now... All three plants
will be in the shade until they reach the top of the 5ft wall they
are planted behind.

Many thanks...

Al


To be honest, I can't wait to see your posts in about two years! ;-)
I hope there's a nice big tree behind the Clematis montana. My
neighbours had one in a former garden of mine. It used to come over a
12' high granite wall and devour a Rosa Albertine if I didn't cut it
back. They'd planted a Russian Vine, too but they did listen to my
pleading and hack that one out! I give you full marks for giving it
all a go and with a sense of humour, too!! ;-)


Sacha,

Your 'climber war' sounds even more gripping than my 'climber race'! :-)

Al


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