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David WE Roberts[_4_] 08-06-2012 10:34 AM

Yet more Wisteria
 
In http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7809091_time-plant-wisteria.html I read

"Warning

Do not grow wisteria near gutters, where the runners can climb them and clog
them. Do not plant Chinese wisteria or Japanese wisteria, as these plants
are invasive and can choke out the local plants. Instead, choose wisterias
that are native to the United States.
"

I think all the Wisteria I have seen online are Chinese/Japanese - haven't
noticed any US natives.

Presumably even though this is a '.co.uk' site it is relaying US-centric
advice?

I was looking for when to plant out Wisteria as I noted the supplier in the
previous thread only supplied plants for the first six months of the year.

Cheers

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")


David WE Roberts[_4_] 08-06-2012 11:43 AM

Yet more Wisteria
 

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:34:15 +0100, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:

In http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7809091_time-plant-wisteria.html I read

"Warning

Do not grow wisteria near gutters, where the runners can climb them and
clog
them. Do not plant Chinese wisteria or Japanese wisteria, as these plants
are invasive and can choke out the local plants. Instead, choose wisterias
that are native to the United States.
"

I think all the Wisteria I have seen online are Chinese/Japanese -
haven't
noticed any US natives.

Presumably even though this is a '.co.uk' site it is relaying US-centric
advice?

I was looking for when to plant out Wisteria as I noted the supplier in
the
previous thread only supplied plants for the first six months of the year.


Did you look at the RHS website, Dave?
http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/...e.aspx?pid=173

You can buy them online from the RHS
http://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_/...no.PL00006636/
http://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_/...no.PL00006647/
http://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_/classid.1748/
http://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_/classid.1736/



Thanks - featured ones on main site are Chinese/Japanese.
Didn't hit this site via Google so their search rankings possibly need
tweaking.
This is the best site for information I have seen - clearly states that they
are grafted and come in 2 litre pots.

Still investigating gardeningexpress - only online, contactable only by
registering than raising a support ticket, and guess what?
Support ticket system is currently broken.

The advice to make sure that you have grafted (most plant sellers) or
propogated (generally amateur gardeners) plants not seed grown (don't flower
for 20 years) is good and tells you that you shouldn't really deal with
anyone who can't supply that information.

Cheers

Dave R

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")


David WE Roberts[_4_] 08-06-2012 11:57 AM

Yet more Wisteria
 

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
snip
Still investigating gardeningexpress - only online, contactable only by
registering than raising a support ticket, and guess what?
Support ticket system is currently broken.


snip

Gah!
Ticket system works under IE9 but not under Firefox or Chrome.
Web amateurs!

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")


Janet 08-06-2012 05:23 PM

Yet more Wisteria
 
In article ,
says...

In http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7809091_time-plant-wisteria.html I read


Presumably even though this is a '.co.uk' site it is relaying US-centric
advice?


Advice to plant in "fall" was one clue; but if you scrolled down, the
references were provided, both American.

Planting advice valid for the USA is rarely transferable to UK conditions
because their vast landmass creates a continental climate; UK is a small
damp northerly maritime island.

Janet

Janet 08-06-2012 05:26 PM

Yet more Wisteria
 
In article ,
says...

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:34:15 +0100, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:

In http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7809091_time-plant-wisteria.html I read

"Warning

Do not grow wisteria near gutters, where the runners can climb them and
clog
them. Do not plant Chinese wisteria or Japanese wisteria, as these plants
are invasive and can choke out the local plants. Instead, choose wisterias
that are native to the United States.
"

I think all the Wisteria I have seen online are Chinese/Japanese -
haven't
noticed any US natives.

Presumably even though this is a '.co.uk' site it is relaying US-centric
advice?

I was looking for when to plant out Wisteria as I noted the supplier in
the
previous thread only supplied plants for the first six months of the year.


Did you look at the RHS website, Dave?
http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/...e.aspx?pid=173

You can buy them online from the RHS
http://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_/...no.PL00006636/
http://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_/...no.PL00006647/
http://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_/classid.1748/
http://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_/classid.1736/



Thanks - featured ones on main site are Chinese/Japanese.


Well, there are no wisteria native to Britain.

Janet




Charlie Pridham[_2_] 08-06-2012 11:16 PM

Yet more Wisteria
 

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
In http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7809091_time-plant-wisteria.html I read

"Warning

Do not grow wisteria near gutters, where the runners can climb them and
clog them. Do not plant Chinese wisteria or Japanese wisteria, as these
plants are invasive and can choke out the local plants. Instead, choose
wisterias that are native to the United States.
"

I think all the Wisteria I have seen online are Chinese/Japanese -
haven't noticed any US natives.

Presumably even though this is a '.co.uk' site it is relaying US-centric
advice?

I was looking for when to plant out Wisteria as I noted the supplier in
the previous thread only supplied plants for the first six months of the
year.

Cheers

Dave R
--

You will not be surprised to hear I think that advice is garbage!

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


David WE Roberts[_4_] 09-06-2012 05:29 AM

Yet more Wisteria
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
In http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7809091_time-plant-wisteria.html I read

"Warning

Do not grow wisteria near gutters, where the runners can climb them and
clog them. Do not plant Chinese wisteria or Japanese wisteria, as these
plants are invasive and can choke out the local plants. Instead, choose
wisterias that are native to the United States.
"

I think all the Wisteria I have seen online are Chinese/Japanese -
haven't noticed any US natives.

Presumably even though this is a '.co.uk' site it is relaying US-centric
advice?

I was looking for when to plant out Wisteria as I noted the supplier in
the previous thread only supplied plants for the first six months of the
year.


You will not be surprised to hear I think that advice is garbage!


Yes, I thought it looked a bit strange.

I was mainly intrigued by the prospect of US native Wisteria and wondering
if anyone had grown them over here, because some parts of the US have a
similar climate (although large parts don't).

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")


Charlie Pridham[_2_] 09-06-2012 08:44 AM

Yet more Wisteria
 

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
In http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7809091_time-plant-wisteria.html I read

"Warning

Do not grow wisteria near gutters, where the runners can climb them and
clog them. Do not plant Chinese wisteria or Japanese wisteria, as these
plants are invasive and can choke out the local plants. Instead, choose
wisterias that are native to the United States.
"

I think all the Wisteria I have seen online are Chinese/Japanese -
haven't noticed any US natives.

Presumably even though this is a '.co.uk' site it is relaying US-centric
advice?

I was looking for when to plant out Wisteria as I noted the supplier in
the previous thread only supplied plants for the first six months of the
year.


You will not be surprised to hear I think that advice is garbage!


Yes, I thought it looked a bit strange.

I was mainly intrigued by the prospect of US native Wisteria and wondering
if anyone had grown them over here, because some parts of the US have a
similar climate (although large parts don't).


Wisteria fruiticans. It has smaller flower trusses than the oriental
varieties and needs a good amount of heat to flower well and lacks scent,
(there is a sub species with some scent), it is not often planted in the UK
but does make beautiful bonsai.

The Americans find it less invasive than the two oriental wisterias which
with their much hotter summers seed freely, W. sinensis is a huge plant and
can be damaging in the wrong place

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


David WE Roberts[_4_] 09-06-2012 11:44 AM

Yet more Wisteria
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
In http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7809091_time-plant-wisteria.html I
read

"Warning

Do not grow wisteria near gutters, where the runners can climb them and
clog them. Do not plant Chinese wisteria or Japanese wisteria, as these
plants are invasive and can choke out the local plants. Instead, choose
wisterias that are native to the United States.
"

I think all the Wisteria I have seen online are Chinese/Japanese -
haven't noticed any US natives.

Presumably even though this is a '.co.uk' site it is relaying
US-centric advice?

I was looking for when to plant out Wisteria as I noted the supplier in
the previous thread only supplied plants for the first six months of
the year.


You will not be surprised to hear I think that advice is garbage!


Yes, I thought it looked a bit strange.

I was mainly intrigued by the prospect of US native Wisteria and
wondering if anyone had grown them over here, because some parts of the
US have a similar climate (although large parts don't).


Wisteria fruiticans. It has smaller flower trusses than the oriental
varieties and needs a good amount of heat to flower well and lacks scent,
(there is a sub species with some scent), it is not often planted in the
UK but does make beautiful bonsai.

The Americans find it less invasive than the two oriental wisterias which
with their much hotter summers seed freely, W. sinensis is a huge plant
and can be damaging in the wrong place



Thanks - much appreciated :-)

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")


David WE Roberts[_4_] 09-06-2012 11:52 AM

Yet more Wisteria - gardeningexpress
 

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
snip
Still investigating gardeningexpress - only online, contactable only by
registering than raising a support ticket, and guess what?
Support ticket system is currently broken.


snip

Gah!
Ticket system works under IE9 but not under Firefox or Chrome.
Web amateurs!



I raised two support tickets, one as a query about pot size for the wisteria
and the other about lack of support for Firefox/Chrome in the ticketing
system.
No response to either, they won't communicate by email or phone so the
ticketing system is the only way to interact.
Given their lack of response I shall not be doing business with them.

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")



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