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My poisonous mushroom
Just picked it. The cap is flat 4.25 inches across, was white now going brown. The gills are brown and the stem has a frill near the cap (although unfortunately I broke the stem when I picked it. It was an inch and 3/4 high stem) I can peel the cap. Open to your ideas. I only get one of these every year. I ate one because it looked like a good 'un. I sure wished I hadn't. Tina |
My poisonous mushroom
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Christina Websell wrote: Just picked it. The cap is flat 4.25 inches across, was white now going brown. The gills are brown and the stem has a frill near the cap (although unfortunately I broke the stem when I picked it. It was an inch and 3/4 high stem) I can peel the cap. Open to your ideas. I only get one of these every year. I ate one because it looked like a good 'un. I sure wished I hadn't. Photographs would help a lot, to identify whether the frill is really a ring, but the thing that would help most of all is to know the spore colour. Also, what SORT of brown, and how dark? It makes a difference whether teddy bear, russet, traditional shoe brown, chocolate or purplish - that's the gills. Also, some indication of the cap and stem colour and texture would help. I may be able to guess, but the ones I am thinking of are not all that common (I have never seen them), and would rather not jump in. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
My poisonous mushroom
wrote in message ... In article , Christina Websell wrote: Just picked it. The cap is flat 4.25 inches across, was white now going brown. The gills are brown and the stem has a frill near the cap (although unfortunately I broke the stem when I picked it. It was an inch and 3/4 high stem) I can peel the cap. Open to your ideas. I only get one of these every year. I ate one because it looked like a good 'un. I sure wished I hadn't. Photographs would help a lot, to identify whether the frill is really a ring, but the thing that would help most of all is to know the spore colour. Also, what SORT of brown, and how dark? It makes a difference whether teddy bear, russet, traditional shoe brown, chocolate or purplish - that's the gills. Chocolate. Also, some indication of the cap and stem colour and texture would help. Cap was white, now going brownish, stem is white. Texture is what you would expect from a mushroom you can eat. No spores evident. It has a frill or ring on the stem near the cap. My camera is out of order atm. I only get the one, never more. I may be able to guess, but the ones I am thinking of are not all that common (I have never seen them), and would rather not jump in. Guess away. It made me ill, and sometimes we get uncommon things. |
My poisonous mushroom
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Christina Websell wrote: It makes a difference whether teddy bear, russet, traditional shoe brown, chocolate or purplish - that's the gills. Chocolate. Also, some indication of the cap and stem colour and texture would help. Cap was white, now going brownish, stem is white. Texture is what you would expect from a mushroom you can eat. No spores evident. It has a frill or ring on the stem near the cap. My camera is out of order atm. I only get the one, never more. I may be able to guess, but the ones I am thinking of are not all that common (I have never seen them), and would rather not jump in. Guess away. It made me ill, and sometimes we get uncommon things. Before I do, please do that spore colour test! All you need to do is to leave parts of the cap, gill side down, on blackish and white papers overnight. Spore colour is one of THE critical diagnostic features! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
My poisonous mushroom
wrote in message ... In article , Christina Websell wrote: It makes a difference whether teddy bear, russet, traditional shoe brown, chocolate or purplish - that's the gills. Chocolate. Also, some indication of the cap and stem colour and texture would help. Cap was white, now going brownish, stem is white. Texture is what you would expect from a mushroom you can eat. No spores evident. It has a frill or ring on the stem near the cap. My camera is out of order atm. I only get the one, never more. I may be able to guess, but the ones I am thinking of are not all that common (I have never seen them), and would rather not jump in. Guess away. It made me ill, and sometimes we get uncommon things. Before I do, please do that spore colour test! All you need to do is to leave parts of the cap, gill side down, on blackish and white papers overnight. Spore colour is one of THE critical diagnostic features! Done. Have put the cap gill side down on some white paper now. Have no blackish paper ;-) Tina |
My poisonous mushroom
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:09:02 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:42:39 +0100, "Christina Websell" wrote: wrote in message ... In article , Christina Websell wrote: Just picked it. The cap is flat 4.25 inches across, was white now going brown. The gills are brown and the stem has a frill near the cap (although unfortunately I broke the stem when I picked it. It was an inch and 3/4 high stem) I can peel the cap. Open to your ideas. I only get one of these every year. I ate one because it looked like a good 'un. I sure wished I hadn't. Photographs would help a lot, to identify whether the frill is really a ring, but the thing that would help most of all is to know the spore colour. Also, what SORT of brown, and how dark? It makes a difference whether teddy bear, russet, traditional shoe brown, chocolate or purplish - that's the gills. Chocolate. Also, some indication of the cap and stem colour and texture would help. Cap was white, now going brownish, stem is white. Texture is what you would expect from a mushroom you can eat. No spores evident. It has a frill or ring on the stem near the cap. My camera is out of order atm. I only get the one, never more. I may be able to guess, but the ones I am thinking of are not all that common (I have never seen them), and would rather not jump in. Guess away. It made me ill, and sometimes we get uncommon things. Even ordinary mushrooms make me ill. When I was a breast-feeding baby, I was even ill after my mother had eaten some. I always thought Chris Hogg was male but today's post proves me wrong! LOL Pam in Bristol |
My poisonous mushroom
On 19/06/2012 21:42, Christina Websell wrote:
wrote in message ... In article , Christina Websell wrote: Just picked it. The cap is flat 4.25 inches across, was white now going brown. The gills are brown and the stem has a frill near the cap (although unfortunately I broke the stem when I picked it. It was an inch and 3/4 high stem) I can peel the cap. Open to your ideas. I only get one of these every year. I ate one because it looked like a good 'un. I sure wished I hadn't. Photographs would help a lot, to identify whether the frill is really a ring, but the thing that would help most of all is to know the spore colour. Also, what SORT of brown, and how dark? It makes a difference whether teddy bear, russet, traditional shoe brown, chocolate or purplish - that's the gills. Chocolate. Also, some indication of the cap and stem colour and texture would help. Cap was white, now going brownish, stem is white. Texture is what you would expect from a mushroom you can eat. No spores evident. It has a frill or ring on the stem near the cap. My camera is out of order atm. I only get the one, never more. I may be able to guess, but the ones I am thinking of are not all that common (I have never seen them), and would rather not jump in. Guess away. It made me ill, and sometimes we get uncommon things. But did you have a glass of wine or some other alcohol at the same time? A few fungi have Antabuse-like effects, as they interfere with the metabolism of alcohol. By themselves they are fine, but combination with alcohol will make you feel very ill. -- Jeff |
My poisonous mushroom
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Chris Hogg wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:15:57 +0100, Pam Moore wrote: Even ordinary mushrooms make me ill. When I was a breast-feeding baby, I was even ill after my mother had eaten some. I always thought Chris Hogg was male but today's post proves me wrong! LOL Quote "was a breast-feeding baby" not "was breast feeding a baby"! Any baby that sucked on my dugs would have got very hungry! As they would from any breast-feeding baby :-) [ I think that you meant "breast-fed baby" ] Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:37:16 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:15:57 +0100, Pam Moore wrote: Even ordinary mushrooms make me ill. When I was a breast-feeding baby, I was even ill after my mother had eaten some. I always thought Chris Hogg was male but today's post proves me wrong! LOL Pam in Bristol Quote "was a breast-feeding baby" not "was breast feeding a baby"! Any baby that sucked on my dugs would have got very hungry! ROTFL ! Pam in Bristol |
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Chris Hogg wrote: No, I meant breast-feeding, although breast-fed would also be acceptable. 'Feeding' can mean either consuming food or giving food. 'When I was a baby feeding from the breast' quite acceptably can be shortened to 'when I was a breast-feeding baby' just as 'when I was a baby eating rusks' can become 'when I was a rusk-eating baby'. That is true, but 'breast-feeding' is never used in that way. English is not a regular language :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
My poisonous mushroom
"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:09:02 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:42:39 +0100, "Christina Websell" wrote: wrote in message ... In article , Christina Websell wrote: Just picked it. The cap is flat 4.25 inches across, was white now going brown. The gills are brown and the stem has a frill near the cap (although unfortunately I broke the stem when I picked it. It was an inch and 3/4 high stem) I can peel the cap. Open to your ideas. I only get one of these every year. I ate one because it looked like a good 'un. I sure wished I hadn't. Photographs would help a lot, to identify whether the frill is really a ring, but the thing that would help most of all is to know the spore colour. Also, what SORT of brown, and how dark? It makes a difference whether teddy bear, russet, traditional shoe brown, chocolate or purplish - that's the gills. Chocolate. Also, some indication of the cap and stem colour and texture would help. Cap was white, now going brownish, stem is white. Texture is what you would expect from a mushroom you can eat. No spores evident. It has a frill or ring on the stem near the cap. My camera is out of order atm. I only get the one, never more. I may be able to guess, but the ones I am thinking of are not all that common (I have never seen them), and would rather not jump in. Guess away. It made me ill, and sometimes we get uncommon things. Even ordinary mushrooms make me ill. When I was a breast-feeding baby, I was even ill after my mother had eaten some. I always thought Chris Hogg was male but today's post proves me wrong! LOL Well it was what I read originally, but then I read it again ... -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
My poisonous mushroom
"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... In article , Christina Websell wrote: It makes a difference whether teddy bear, russet, traditional shoe brown, chocolate or purplish - that's the gills. Chocolate. Also, some indication of the cap and stem colour and texture would help. Cap was white, now going brownish, stem is white. Texture is what you would expect from a mushroom you can eat. No spores evident. It has a frill or ring on the stem near the cap. My camera is out of order atm. I only get the one, never more. I may be able to guess, but the ones I am thinking of are not all that common (I have never seen them), and would rather not jump in. Guess away. It made me ill, and sometimes we get uncommon things. Before I do, please do that spore colour test! All you need to do is to leave parts of the cap, gill side down, on blackish and white papers overnight. Spore colour is one of THE critical diagnostic features! Done. Have put the cap gill side down on some white paper now. Have no blackish paper ;-) Tina No spores were shed on to my white paper overnight. I expected the spores to look like dust - is that correct? If so, zilch. It did make the paper wet by my putting it gills down so the paper was stained brown. Maybe it had shed all the spores before I picked it, it was certainly getting elderly before I noticed it and had been chomped a bit by slugs who must be immune. Maybe I will never know what it is, I only get one a year and it really, absolutely, looks safe. If I need a microscope to find the spores of this beastie, well, I don't have one ;-) I would love to know what Nick thinks it might be. It cannot be a Heleboma as they only appear in September plus. |
My poisonous mushroom
"Jeff Layman" wrote in message ... On 19/06/2012 21:42, Christina Websell wrote: wrote in message ... In article , Christina Websell wrote: Just picked it. The cap is flat 4.25 inches across, was white now going brown. The gills are brown and the stem has a frill near the cap (although unfortunately I broke the stem when I picked it. It was an inch and 3/4 high stem) I can peel the cap. Open to your ideas. I only get one of these every year. I ate one because it looked like a good 'un. I sure wished I hadn't. Photographs would help a lot, to identify whether the frill is really a ring, but the thing that would help most of all is to know the spore colour. Also, what SORT of brown, and how dark? It makes a difference whether teddy bear, russet, traditional shoe brown, chocolate or purplish - that's the gills. Chocolate. Also, some indication of the cap and stem colour and texture would help. Cap was white, now going brownish, stem is white. Texture is what you would expect from a mushroom you can eat. No spores evident. It has a frill or ring on the stem near the cap. My camera is out of order atm. I only get the one, never more. I may be able to guess, but the ones I am thinking of are not all that common (I have never seen them), and would rather not jump in. Guess away. It made me ill, and sometimes we get uncommon things. But did you have a glass of wine or some other alcohol at the same time? A few fungi have Antabuse-like effects, as they interfere with the metabolism of alcohol. By themselves they are fine, but combination with alcohol will make you feel very ill. No, I hadn't had any alcohol when I ate it - although I might as well have done as my judgement was obviously impaired! |
My poisonous mushroom
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Christina Websell wrote: No spores were shed on to my white paper overnight. I expected the spores to look like dust - is that correct? If so, zilch. It did make the paper wet by my putting it gills down so the paper was stained brown. Maybe it had shed all the spores before I picked it, it was certainly getting elderly before I noticed it and had been chomped a bit by slugs who must be immune. Maybe I will never know what it is, I only get one a year and it really, absolutely, looks safe. If I need a microscope to find the spores of this beastie, well, I don't have one ;-) I would love to know what Nick thinks it might be. It cannot be a Heleboma as they only appear in September plus. Spores are often not visible as such, but only as a stain, but that all sounds very bizarre. I was thinking of Stropharia, but it doesn't sound quite right. The reason that those of us who know something about edible fungi have been saying DO eat the edible ones that don't look like supermarket mushrooms, and DON'T eat the ones that do, is precisely because of the number of nasties that look like field mushrooms but aren't. There are simple rules to avoid the really lethal ones, but no simple rules to be quite certain of avoiding a few that might give you a bit of gut-rot. As you discovered. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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