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After the hail
Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment.
Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. Amazing, isn't it? |
After the hail
On Jul 1, 12:18*am, "Christina Websell"
wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. *Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. *Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? There is little or no accurate information in the corporate media concerning global warming, but users of this NG seem to be experiencing the effects of this first hand, so it seems surprising no one seems to have grasped the fact that propaganda related to global warming issued through the corpse media simply isnt correct? |
After the hail
On 01/07/2012 11:16, Steerpike wrote:
On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? There is little or no accurate information in the corporate media concerning global warming, but users of this NG seem to be experiencing the effects of this first hand, so it seems surprising no one seems to have grasped the fact that propaganda related to global warming issued through the corpse media simply isnt correct? I think that people using this group are more concerned with the effects rather than the cause, about which they can do nothing. |
After the hail
On Jul 1, 11:31*am, David Hill wrote:
On 01/07/2012 11:16, Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. *Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. *Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? There is little or no accurate information in the corporate media concerning global warming, but users of this NG seem to be experiencing the effects of this first hand, so it seems surprising no one seems to have grasped the fact that propaganda related to global warming issued through the corpse media simply isnt correct? I think that people using this group are more concerned with the effects rather than the cause, about which they can do nothing. If the effects of global warming continue at the present rate, cultivation outdoors will become difficult/impossible within the lifetime of people alive today, and more than 1000 species of wildlife will become extinct. The view that the majority of people can do nothing about the actions of very small minorities interested in little more than increasing profits, is the sole reason that these voracious minorities can do pretty much as they please! |
After the hail
On Jul 1, 11:44*am, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 03:16:01 -0700 (PDT), Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 12:18*am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. *Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. *Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? Which of the many forecasts? -- Martin I would suggest opening your own eyes and observing the freak weather conditions which are now pretty much the norm, rather than taking notice of ridiculous propaganda issued by the corpse media. |
After the hail
David Hill wrote in
: On 01/07/2012 11:16, Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? There is little or no accurate information in the corporate media concerning global warming, but users of this NG seem to be experiencing the effects of this first hand, so it seems surprising no one seems to have grasped the fact that propaganda related to global warming issued through the corpse media simply isnt correct? I think that people using this group are more concerned with the effects rather than the cause, about which they can do nothing. I think we ARE doing something about it. We have waste bins of various colours, ours brown for garden waste, red for plastic/poly and cardboard, blue for paper, and green for glass and metals. We also have a large black bin for anything which does not fit any of those categories. Then there are electrical goods such as televisions, PC's, microwave ovens,fridges and the like, which most people take to the council tip to get recycled. 20 years or so ago, everything went into the large black bin and went to landfill and most of it could have been recycled, but it was all left to rot. Much of it will never rot. Then there is car sharing to do a trebble whammy. Cut down on fuel emissions, cut down on the depleting fossil fuel useage which will, in turn cut down in traffic congestion(which helps the first two). It has to happen surely? Or get some major public transport policy for towns by the government. Or is it too little too late? Baz |
After the hail
On Jul 1, 11:48*am, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:31:59 +0100, David Hill wrote: On 01/07/2012 11:16, Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. *Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. *Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? There is little or no accurate information in the corporate media concerning global warming, but users of this NG seem to be experiencing the effects of this first hand, so it seems surprising no one seems to have grasped the fact that propaganda related to global warming issued through the corpse media simply isnt correct? I think that people using this group are more concerned with the effects rather than the cause, about which they can do nothing. and the effects are arguable. James Lovelockhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock "In an April 2012 interview, aired on MSNBC, Lovelock stated that he had been "alarmist", using the words “All right, I made a mistake,” about the timing of climate change and noted the documentary An Inconvenient Truth and the book The Weather Makers as examples of the same kind of alarmism. Lovelock still believes the climate to be warming although the rate of change is not as he once thought, he admitted that he had been “extrapolating too far." He believes that climate change is still happening, but it will be felt farther in the future. Of the claims “the science is settled” on global warming he states. “One thing that being a scientist has taught me is that you can never be certain about anything. You never know the truth. You can only approach it and hope to get a bit nearer to it each time. You iterate towards the truth. You don’t know it.” -- Martin I dont think you quite grasp the fact that those in a position to slow down the very obvious effects of global warming, are also those who profit most by doing nothing. Cleverly presented propaganda is likely to deceive a fair number of people, but in this case anyone able to take note of the increasingly strange weather patterns that have come about due to global warming, should be able to see such propaganda in its true light. |
After the hail
On Jul 1, 2:16*pm, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 04:59:27 -0700 (PDT), Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 11:48*am, Martin wrote: On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:31:59 +0100, David Hill wrote: On 01/07/2012 11:16, Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. *Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. *Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? There is little or no accurate information in the corporate media concerning global warming, but users of this NG seem to be experiencing the effects of this first hand, so it seems surprising no one seems to have grasped the fact that propaganda related to global warming issued through the corpse media simply isnt correct? I think that people using this group are more concerned with the effects rather than the cause, about which they can do nothing. and the effects are arguable. James Lovelockhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock "In an April 2012 interview, aired on MSNBC, Lovelock stated that he had been "alarmist", using the words “All right, I made a mistake,” about the timing of climate change and noted the documentary An Inconvenient Truth and the book The Weather Makers as examples of the same kind of alarmism. Lovelock still believes the climate to be warming although the rate of change is not as he once thought, he admitted that he had been “extrapolating too far." He believes that climate change is still happening, but it will be felt farther in the future. Of the claims “the science is settled” on global warming he states. “One thing that being a scientist has taught me is that you can never be certain about anything. You never know the truth. You can only approach it and hope to get a bit nearer to it each time. You iterate towards the truth. You don’t know it.” -- Martin I dont think you quite grasp the fact that those in a position to slow down the very obvious effects of global warming, are also those who profit most by doing nothing. Cleverly presented propaganda is likely to deceive a fair number of people, but in this case anyone able to take note of the increasingly strange weather patterns that have come about due to global warming, should be able to see such propaganda in its true light. Of course absolutely nobody makes money from selling solar panels & building wind turbines do they? -- Martin The worlds most prolific polluter (USA) is strangely enough the most vocal in its opposition to any realistic measures to reduce levels of pollution. Unrestricted right to pollute makes the USA an awful lot of money, and its pretty silly to mention things to do with "greenwash" in relation to something which should be the worlds No1 concern at the moment. |
After the hail
On Jul 1, 2:14*pm, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 04:54:44 -0700 (PDT), Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 11:44*am, Martin wrote: On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 03:16:01 -0700 (PDT), Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 12:18*am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. *Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. *Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? Which of the many forecasts? -- Martin I would suggest opening your own eyes and observing the freak weather conditions which are now pretty much the norm, rather than taking notice of ridiculous propaganda issued by the corpse media. Opening your eyes lets you see the current weather not the future. -- Martin Obviously its very easy for most people over the age of 40 say, to compare what the weather is like today, to that which was common 20 years ago. Then have a look at predictions for climate change made 20 years ago, and without the ingestion of corp media propaganda, see how very accurate they were..................... |
After the hail
"Steerpike" wrote in message ... On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? There is little or no accurate information in the corporate media concerning global warming, but users of this NG seem to be experiencing the effects of this first hand, so it seems surprising no one seems to have grasped the fact that propaganda related to global warming issued through the corpse media simply isnt correct? Who the hell really believes all that rubbish about global warming? Alan |
After the hail
"Steerpike" wrote in message ... On Jul 1, 11:44 am, Martin wrote: On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 03:16:01 -0700 (PDT), Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? Which of the many forecasts? -- Martin I would suggest opening your own eyes and observing the freak weather conditions which are now pretty much the norm, rather than taking notice of ridiculous propaganda issued by the corpse media. Like the volume of rain and the cold weather we have been having more of! Alan |
After the hail
On Jul 1, 3:53*pm, "Alan Holmes" wrote:
"Steerpike" wrote in message ... On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? There is little or no accurate information in the corporate media concerning global warming, but users of this NG seem to be experiencing the effects of this first hand, so it seems surprising no one seems to have grasped the fact that propaganda related to global warming issued through the corpse media simply isnt correct? Who the hell really believes all that rubbish about global warming? Alan Pretty much all of the scientists whose field this is! And maybe anyone who is a gardener, and is currently experiencing effects of the worst summer weather in the last 100 years? Its astonishing how much of a hold ridiculous corporate media propaganda appears to have over what I would imagine are reasonably intelligent people, who seem quite unable to grasp the fact that those making enormous amounts of money by being able to pollute the planet freely, also own and control the corporate media itself....................... |
After the hail
On Jul 1, 3:57*pm, "Alan Holmes" wrote:
"Steerpike" wrote in message ... On Jul 1, 11:44 am, Martin wrote: On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 03:16:01 -0700 (PDT), Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? Which of the many forecasts? -- Martin I would suggest opening your own eyes and observing the freak weather conditions which are now pretty much the norm, rather than taking notice of ridiculous propaganda issued by the corpse media. Like the volume of rain and the cold weather we have been having more of! Alan This summer is the worst in the last 100 years, and as predicted winter and summer are gradually become more and more alike. The fact that those who stand to gain most by being able to pollute freely, also own and control the corporate media, is something that escapes many people. |
After the hail
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 04:59:27 -0700 (PDT), Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 11:48 am, Martin wrote: On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:31:59 +0100, David Hill wrote: On 01/07/2012 11:16, Steerpike wrote: On Jul 1, 12:18 am, "Christina Websell" wrote: Yes, I have lost quite a lot of plants on the allotment. Peas are smashed, as are some french beans I planted out last week, some of the runner beans have suffered, and the spinach has been uprooted (how?) Only a few sweetcorn plants have survived. Strawberries bashed Lettuces laugh at hail, apparently..they are fine. Amazing, isn't it? I notice more and more posts on here related to the weather. Does no one using this group care that predictions made in regard to the effects of global warming all seem to be pretty accurate, with the only exception being the process seems to happening a lot faster than was initially expected? There is little or no accurate information in the corporate media concerning global warming, but users of this NG seem to be experiencing the effects of this first hand, so it seems surprising no one seems to have grasped the fact that propaganda related to global warming issued through the corpse media simply isnt correct? I think that people using this group are more concerned with the effects rather than the cause, about which they can do nothing. and the effects are arguable. James Lovelockhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock "In an April 2012 interview, aired on MSNBC, Lovelock stated that he had been "alarmist", using the words "All right, I made a mistake," about the timing of climate change and noted the documentary An Inconvenient Truth and the book The Weather Makers as examples of the same kind of alarmism. Lovelock still believes the climate to be warming although the rate of change is not as he once thought, he admitted that he had been "extrapolating too far." He believes that climate change is still happening, but it will be felt farther in the future. Of the claims "the science is settled" on global warming he states. "One thing that being a scientist has taught me is that you can never be certain about anything. You never know the truth. You can only approach it and hope to get a bit nearer to it each time. You iterate towards the truth. You don't know it." -- Martin I dont think you quite grasp the fact that those in a position to slow down the very obvious effects of global warming, are also those who profit most by doing nothing. Cleverly presented propaganda is likely to deceive a fair number of people, but in this case anyone able to take note of the increasingly strange weather patterns that have come about due to global warming, should be able to see such propaganda in its true light. Of course absolutely nobody makes money from selling solar panels & building wind turbines do they? Especially not the Prime Minister's father in law! Please note that 'global warming' has been dropped (because it was found to be false) so now it is called 'climate change' instead. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
After the hail
I would suggest opening your own eyes and observing the freak weather conditions which are now pretty much the norm, rather than taking notice of ridiculous propaganda issued by the corpse media. Like the volume of rain and the cold weather we have been having more of! Alan But then in my younger day it was the Atom bombs that were to blame, followed by the testing of Hydrogen Bombs, then all the rockets punching holes in the Ozone layer, then it was pollution from cars then all pollution from industry etc. I bet they blamed fire, the wheel, bows and arrows, gunpowder........ |
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