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Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by
recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Jeanne |
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On 11/07/2012 14:44, Pete wrote:
Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Well the rain eased off on Monday afternoon for just long enough for me to cut the grass. It was very soggy under foot even though the grass being cut was dry(ish) in sunshine the ground was totally sodden. It has been raining ever since. Main beneficiaries are the stickyjack, bindweed and couch grass that can still grow fairly fast. It is quite difficult and unpleasant to garden in torrential rain. YMMV Hardly seen a butterfly at all this year despite having plenty of nectar rich plants in flower now. House martins, swallows and bats are starving to death. All in all it is really not a good summer... On the plus side there is no need to water the hanging baskets. (not strictly true some lobelia on the underside have dried out) -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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"Pete" wrote in
: Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Jeanne Yes, Pete you are right. You start then? joking. I don't suppose any of us has had anything worth shouting about. A few strawbs and a pea or broad bean here and there. Tell us anyway. Let us all have a laugh at this horrid year and put it behind us. Baz |
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Baz wrote in news:XnsA08D9ACFF9107bazfawltycom@
81.171.92.236: "Pete" wrote in : Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Jeanne Yes, Pete you are right. You start then? joking. I don't suppose any of us has had anything worth shouting about. A few strawbs and a pea or broad bean here and there. Tell us anyway. Let us all have a laugh at this horrid year and put it behind us. Baz One thing, Pete, this is not only about me, Baz, its about all of the others. Baz |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:44:44 +0100, "Pete"
wrote: Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! What's this gardening thing? All many of us can do at the moment is look wistfully out of rain battered windows at flattened and washed out plants, rotting vegetables and pools of water where the lawn used to be. In the odd dry interlude, all I can do is nip out to dig up the stuff that's rotting in the wet. My clay soil really needs a few dry days to drain a bit before I can step on it without sinking up to my knees in the mud. There are only so many times I can say I've picked a nice bowl of strawberries or raspberries, which is all I'm getting from the garden at the moment. It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June I left Giganews some time ago because I noticed a high rate of message loss (resolved by switching to NIN). The vast majority of threads I am seeing for June and July are about gardening. That it is the non-gardening threads which are attracting the most input is merely because the more active regulars in the group want it that way at the moment as talking about gardening would be depressing. ;) Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please I'm thinking I'll get some done when the weather stops being so abysmally wet. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes it's raining and sometimes it's not. |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:44:44 +0100, "Pete"
wrote: Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please I heartily agree with you that politics has no place here, there are more than enough places for that. But the weather and its consequences are *always* relevant to gardening. And as a respected member of URG, Baz deserves our support for the devastating problem he is suffering. And this doesn't stop or replace threads about plants and planting - there is still plenty of room for them. |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:00:07 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote: On the plus side there is no need to water the hanging baskets. (not strictly true some lobelia on the underside have dried out) You forgot the other massive plus - all hosepipe bans have now been lifted so everyone can put out their lawn sprinklers again and use their hosepipes to water their vegetable patches. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes it's raining and sometimes it's not. |
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"Jake" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:00:07 +0100, Martin Brown wrote: On the plus side there is no need to water the hanging baskets. (not strictly true some lobelia on the underside have dried out) You forgot the other massive plus - all hosepipe bans have now been lifted so everyone can put out their lawn sprinklers again and use their hosepipes to water their vegetable patches. Even the flooded ones? ... -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On 11/07/2012 15:38, Fuschia wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:44:44 +0100, "Pete" wrote: Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please I heartily agree with you that politics has no place here, there are more than enough places for that. But the weather and its consequences are *always* relevant to gardening. And as a respected member of URG, Baz deserves our support for the devastating problem he is suffering. And this doesn't stop or replace threads about plants and planting - there is still plenty of room for them. I find that the topic of exceptional rain is very on topic. While I thank the gods that flooding, like Baz's, is almost impossible for me, there have been, albeit minor, consequences. The rain was so severe last Thursday that it funnelled down a sloping path, swung off the path onto a bed then washed a large amount of soil off said bed and onto the gravel path below. When, and if, it dries I will have to dig the gravel out and sieve it returning the gravel to the path and the soil to the bed. Another consequence for me has been for the first time I am having problems with my raspberries, as they ripen they become mildewed. Finally the strawberries have failed completely, however with help here I hope to not have the problem next year, as I will plant into the strawberry planters recommended by Jake; on an earlier thread. Sorry to drone on about the bad weather. -- Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire |
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"Jake" wrote ...
Martin Brown wrote: On the plus side there is no need to water the hanging baskets. (not strictly true some lobelia on the underside have dried out) You forgot the other massive plus - all hosepipe bans have now been lifted so everyone can put out their lawn sprinklers again and use their hosepipes to water their vegetable patches. Finally we have had the hosepipe ban lifted so yesterday afternoon I power washed our patio in between the showers, forgotten how nice it looks without all that green on it. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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Martin Brown wrote:
Hardly seen a butterfly at all this year despite having plenty of nectar rich plants in flower now. House martins, swallows and bats are starving to death. All in all it is really not a good summer... There's a lovely red one that I keep seeing (or perhaps a family of them :-) on the allotment. I've not seen one quite like it before. Spotted my first caterpillars this week (one on an african violet! That's a new one on me), but so far the brassicas are unscathed. |
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Baz wrote:
Tell us anyway. Let us all have a laugh at this horrid year and put it behind us. I'm in the middle of a currant-and-gooseberry feast, thankyouverymuch. And I think the first semi-accidental courgette (which was grown deliberately but has rooted itself into a garden planter before I could plant out on the allotment!) has its first fruit forming |
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Jeanne wrote
Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Whilst I don't agree with you about the OT posts being prevalent I think the problem is that gardening in this season is almost a total disaster, unless you grow rice. My tuberous begonias got mildew before some had even started in to growth, never seen anything like that before in many decades of growing them. Whilst our little garden at home is looking pretty on our allotment our potatoes have Blight, weeks earlier than I've ever experienced it before and I've never had it on the potatoes like this year. Plants aren't growing properly, Butternut Squashes are not much bigger than when I put them out over a month ago, Courgettes are only now starting to flower but again haven't grown as expected, Tomatoes only now have their first flowers but I expect the blight will get them too despite spraying with BM. The chillies and aubergines are a lost cause, just not growing despite protection. Summer cabbages haven't hearted up, just blown. The list goes on. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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wrote in message ... Martin Brown wrote: Hardly seen a butterfly at all this year despite having plenty of nectar rich plants in flower now. House martins, swallows and bats are starving to death. All in all it is really not a good summer... There's a lovely red one that I keep seeing (or perhaps a family of them :-) on the allotment. I've not seen one quite like it before. Red Admiral I wonder? R. |
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Jake wrote in
: On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:00:07 +0100, Martin Brown wrote: On the plus side there is no need to water the hanging baskets. (not strictly true some lobelia on the underside have dried out) You forgot the other massive plus - all hosepipe bans have now been lifted so everyone can put out their lawn sprinklers again and use their hosepipes to water their vegetable patches. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes it's raining and sometimes it's not. Glad you reminded me, Jake. Almost forgot. Baz |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in
: "Jake" wrote ... Martin Brown wrote: On the plus side there is no need to water the hanging baskets. (not strictly true some lobelia on the underside have dried out) You forgot the other massive plus - all hosepipe bans have now been lifted so everyone can put out their lawn sprinklers again and use their hosepipes to water their vegetable patches. Finally we have had the hosepipe ban lifted so yesterday afternoon I power washed our patio in between the showers, forgotten how nice it looks without all that green on it. How many times does a person have to shower? You must have a hellish big patio. Well I thought it was amusing. Baz |
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I find that the topic of exceptional rain is very on topic. While I thank the gods that flooding, like Baz's, is almost impossible for me, there have been, albeit minor, consequences. The rain was so severe last Thursday that it funnelled down a sloping path, swung off the path onto a bed then washed a large amount of soil off said bed and onto the gravel path below. When, and if, it dries I will have to dig the gravel out and sieve it returning the gravel to the path and the soil to the bed. Another consequence for me has been for the first time I am having problems with my raspberries, as they ripen they become mildewed. Finally the strawberries have failed completely, however with help here I hope to not have the problem next year, as I will plant into the strawberry planters recommended by Jake; on an earlier thread. Sorry to drone on about the bad weather. Why not return the soil and gravel mixed to the bed, great for those plants who like a little more drainage. Then get new gravel for the path, it will be a lot less work in the long run. David @ the Ex sunny end of Swansea Bay |
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wrote in
: And I think the first semi-accidental courgette (which was grown deliberately but has rooted itself into a garden planter before I could plant out on the allotment!) has its first fruit forming Guess what we are all gonna do next year then? Semi-accidental some others as well ;-) Deliberatly, of course. Baz |
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"Baz" wrote in message ... wrote in : And I think the first semi-accidental courgette (which was grown deliberately but has rooted itself into a garden planter before I could plant out on the allotment!) has its first fruit forming Guess what we are all gonna do next year then? Semi-accidental some others as well ;-) Deliberatly, of course. Last week I went to buy some courgette plants but they had just sold out. The nice lady suggested planting some seeds! She assured me they would be growing fairly quickly. She was right!!! They are coming on by leaps and bounds:))) Newby O -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Jul 11, 2:44*pm, "Pete" wrote:
Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Jeanne Stop whinging. You don't have to read them. OTs keeps people reading/visiting the site when there's nothing else on. |
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wrote in message ... Baz wrote: Tell us anyway. Let us all have a laugh at this horrid year and put it behind us. I'm in the middle of a currant-and-gooseberry feast, thankyouverymuch. And I think the first semi-accidental courgette (which was grown deliberately but has rooted itself into a garden planter before I could plant out on the allotment!) has its first fruit forming My courgettes are doing well. The ordinary green ones have a bit of mildew but it has not affected them and have some fruit forming. The round ones and the patty pan are not quite so advanced but have no mildew and look very healthy. My bro made a frame about 2 ft high with nylon netting stapled on and we planted them on mounds with plenty of chicken poo mixed in, under there. It seems to have worked. It's the first time I've grown them for years and the best I've ever had - they are growing like triffids. Almost everything else is a washout. French beans had only just been planted out when we had the hailstorm and they were badly damaged. I flung a bit of bit of blood fish and bone round them today to encourage them. Runners are slow but some flowers on the first ones although they are only half way up the canes and look pale so they got some bfb too, they haven't got big enough to reach their roots down to the trench we dug full of goodies for them to feast on "in dry weather.." Coriander doing well. I had a nice sprinkle of it on my home made curry tonight. |
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"Pete" wrote in message ... Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Jeanne I haven't seen the majority of posts here to be on non-gardening topics, maybe you need a better newsreader ;-) Weather is always relevant to gardening, especially such extreme rain as we have having now, and I like to think we are all friends on here and can support each other if we are in trouble. Keeping strictly on topic hails back to the days of dial up (I was on that!) when paying per minute to download OT stuff was a real annoyance. Nowadays broadband is mostly available here but if you don't have it you can still download the headers first and then work offline to see if you want to pay to download the body of the message - that's why it's a good idea to put OT in the title. If you have broadband and just don't like every post being about gardening on urg, GardenBanter might suit you better. You do get better advice on here though and I am sure you know how to mark "conversation read" if we stray. Tina |
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On Jul 11, 2:44*pm, "Pete" wrote:
Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Jeanne Surely the effects of climate change (which will in time make gardening out of doors pretty much impossible), are perhaps extremely relevant to this particular group? The weather may well effect members of this group far more than most, and to me it seems very worrying that almost all group members seem to have swallowed corp media propaganda suggesting climate change either doesnt exist or is irrelevant, even in the face of the worst summer since records began, and similar situations in many other parts of the world. |
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writes You forgot the other massive plus - all hosepipe bans have now been lifted so everyone can put out their lawn sprinklers again and use their hosepipes to water their vegetable patches. Cheers, Jake veolia hasn't -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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Ragnar wrote:
There's a lovely red one that I keep seeing (or perhaps a family of them on the allotment. I've not seen one quite like it before. Red Admiral I wonder? Oddly, I think I would recognise a red admiral. Could have been one of these: http://www.bbc.co.uk/essex/content/i...70_470x352.jpg |
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Janet Tweedy wrote:
You forgot the other massive plus - all hosepipe bans have now been lifted so everyone can put out their lawn sprinklers again and use their hosepipes to water their vegetable patches. veolia hasn't Yup they have: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18764953 |
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wrote in message ... Ragnar wrote: There's a lovely red one that I keep seeing (or perhaps a family of them on the allotment. I've not seen one quite like it before. Red Admiral I wonder? Oddly, I think I would recognise a red admiral. Could have been one of these: http://www.bbc.co.uk/essex/content/i...70_470x352.jpg Very pretty but not a butterfly of course. Love Ragnar |
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Ragnar wrote:
There's a lovely red one that I keep seeing (or perhaps a family of them on the allotment. I've not seen one quite like it before. Red Admiral I wonder? Oddly, I think I would recognise a red admiral. Could have been one of these: http://www.bbc.co.uk/essex/content/i...70_470x352.jpg Very pretty but not a butterfly of course. Hmm, sings are in the wrong direction. Not sure it's the same one, as I remember checking the one I saw and I'm pretty sure it /was/ a butterfly not a moth, and there is less red on the one in the picture. It's the 'right' red though. |
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Ragnar wrote:
Oddly, I think I would recognise a red admiral. Could have been one of these: http://www.bbc.co.uk/essex/content/i...70_470x352.jpg Very pretty but not a butterfly of course. If it /is/ that one, it appears to be a cinnabar moth: http://www.butterfly-conservation.or...tures=&Family= |
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On 11/07/2012 21:52, Steerpike wrote:
On Jul 11, 2:44 pm, "Pete" wrote: Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Jeanne Surely the effects of climate change (which will in time make gardening out of doors pretty much impossible), are perhaps extremely relevant to this particular group? The weather may well effect members of this group far more than most, and to me it seems very worrying that almost all group members seem to have swallowed corp media propaganda suggesting climate change either doesnt exist or is irrelevant, even in the face of the worst summer since records began, and similar situations in many other parts of the world. On what basis do you blame global warming? The forecasts of its effect has been totally out in the past, after all they use computer models, not real life. Also this is by no means the worst summer in living memory, though bad. It was only 40 years ago that the "scientists" were predicting a mini ice age because it was exceptionally cold. As regards it meaning eventually there will be no more gardening that certainly is not predicted to happen in the lifetime of any posters here, even by the most gloomy predictors. Why have people who do not agree with you been biassed by corporate media propaganda any more than you being biassed by the other side? -- Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire |
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Sacha wrote:
If it /is/ that one, it appears to be a cinnabar moth: http://www.butterfly-conservation.or...tures=&Family= That's beautiful. I've never seen one before in the flesh but hope they'll visit us one day. I saw a pic the other day of a gorgeous moth (we think) with a bright scarlet 'tail' and navy wings with white splodges. If I can find the pic again, I'll give a link to it. There is an identification guide on that website: http://www.butterfly-conservation.org/ |
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Janet Tweedy wrote:
I need to water my greenhouse stuff and filling up watering cans and holding them high to reach the stuff on shelves has been a nightmare. Nick looked up the actual conditions, and I believe watering plants under cover/glass is acceptable use. |
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On Jul 12, 9:34*am, Moonraker wrote:
On 11/07/2012 21:52, Steerpike wrote: On Jul 11, 2:44 pm, "Pete" wrote: Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Jeanne Surely the effects of climate change (which will in time make gardening out of doors pretty much impossible), are perhaps extremely relevant to this particular group? The weather may well effect members of this group far more than most, and to me it seems very worrying that almost all group members seem to have swallowed corp media propaganda suggesting climate change either doesnt exist or is irrelevant, even in the face of the worst summer since records began, and similar situations in many other parts of the world. On what basis do you blame global warming? The forecasts of its effect has been totally out in the past, after all they use computer models, not real life. Also this is by no means the worst summer in living memory, though bad. It was only 40 years ago that the "scientists" were predicting a mini ice age because it was exceptionally cold. As regards it meaning eventually there will be no more gardening that certainly is not predicted to happen in the lifetime of any posters here, even by the most gloomy predictors. Why have people who do not agree with you been biassed by corporate media propaganda any more than you being biassed by the other side? -- Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire Obviously you are better informed than the Met Office, who seem to be suggesting this is the worst summer during the course of the 100 years information relating to our weather has been being recorded.................maybe you should put them right? |
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On 12/07/2012 20:30, Steerpike wrote:
On Jul 12, 9:34 am, Moonraker wrote: On 11/07/2012 21:52, Steerpike wrote: On Jul 11, 2:44 pm, "Pete" wrote: Whilst I have every sympathy for Baz and others who have been affected by recent weather/floods etc., isn't it about time this newsgroup got back to what is supposed to be about -i.e. GARDENING!!! It seems that the majority of threads this month alone have been non-gardening - and the same was true in June Come on all you gardeners - let-s have your thoughts/questions on gardening please please please Jeanne Surely the effects of climate change (which will in time make gardening out of doors pretty much impossible), are perhaps extremely relevant to this particular group? The weather may well effect members of this group far more than most, and to me it seems very worrying that almost all group members seem to have swallowed corp media propaganda suggesting climate change either doesnt exist or is irrelevant, even in the face of the worst summer since records began, and similar situations in many other parts of the world. On what basis do you blame global warming? The forecasts of its effect has been totally out in the past, after all they use computer models, not real life. Also this is by no means the worst summer in living memory, though bad. It was only 40 years ago that the "scientists" were predicting a mini ice age because it was exceptionally cold. As regards it meaning eventually there will be no more gardening that certainly is not predicted to happen in the lifetime of any posters here, even by the most gloomy predictors. Why have people who do not agree with you been biassed by corporate media propaganda any more than you being biassed by the other side? -- Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire Obviously you are better informed than the Met Office, who seem to be suggesting this is the worst summer during the course of the 100 years information relating to our weather has been being recorded.................maybe you should put them right? The problem with these "worst than" or "hottest" etc is where they measure it, probably London as everything is centred there. However there are large variations over the country, small though it is, which is why forecasting can be so hit and miss. I have often listened to the forecast, found it wrong, driven a few miles away and there is the forecast weather. -- Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire |
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"Moonraker" wrote in message ... The problem with these "worst than" or "hottest" etc is where they measure it, probably London as everything is centred there. However there are large variations over the country, small though it is, which is why forecasting can be so hit and miss. I have often listened to the forecast, found it wrong, driven a few miles away and there is the forecast weather. The UK is not a small country. London is closer to Geneva than it is to where I live. When I drive to London and cross the border at Gretna, I am more than halfway to my destination and the UK mainland extends a further 100 miles north of me. The Met. Office have no conception of the geography of this part of the UK and only rarely have any knowledge of current weather conditions - accurate forecasts are hardly ever given. Much more accurate forecasts for this area are given by the Norwegian Met. Office. Phil Northern Highlands of Scotland |
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Phil Gurr wrote: "Moonraker" wrote in message ... The problem with these "worst than" or "hottest" etc is where they measure it, probably London as everything is centred there. However there are large variations over the country, small though it is, which is why forecasting can be so hit and miss. I have often listened to the forecast, found it wrong, driven a few miles away and there is the forecast weather. The UK is not a small country. London is closer to Geneva than it is to where I live. When I drive to London and cross the border at Gretna, I am more than halfway to my destination and the UK mainland extends a further 100 miles north of me. The Met. Office have no conception of the geography of this part of the UK and only rarely have any knowledge of current weather conditions - accurate forecasts are hardly ever given. Much more accurate forecasts for this area are given by the Norwegian Met. Office. Actually, it IS a small country by global standards (though perhaps not by European ones). And, while it has more variation in climate per mile than most, it doesn't have all that much. The reason that it seems more is that we are so close to the limit of the habitable regions. However, your points about it being run by people who think that Potter's Bar is the northern outpost of civilisation are very true. The abominable new projection used for the BBC weather forecast shows their mindset all too clearly. Dammit, they regard Cambridge as being at the northern border of southern England. Last week I was walking in the Monadhliath mountains, but I know enough to know they are NOT in the north of Scotland! Most people I meet don't. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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