Manure too fresh?
 

"Baz" wrote in message
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Martin Brown wrote in
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On 14/10/2012 17:14, Baz wrote:
I have had 40+ open bags of horse manure delivered today, Sunday. So
it is not quite retail.
It is not rotted and looks like it was "laid" 3 or 4 weeks ago.
Ok, I got it for free but was wondering what I am going to do with
it. I think it is not weedkiller infested because there is some grass
or something growing in some of them.
What to do? I don't have a big enough area to compost it.

Why not? Stack it into a roughly 2m cube.

In the bedroom perhaps? When I say I have no area, I mean I have no room
in
the garden.

Or give away to your other allotment holders the stuff you can't use.

I now see that you think the dung is at the allotment, sorry, it's at home
in the garden. I would not give anything to the existing tenants, I would
to the newer ones. It's them and us, and they will not let their childish
attitude go. They have had it too good for too long. It is not the fault
of
ours that we have been allowed an allotment because some other greedy sods
who have broken their tenancy agreement have been evicted. And I never
said
anything at the tanancy meeting. I held out my hand and was blackballed.

ISTR you have plenty of burnt bridges to sort out.

Which bridges are these? You know more about me than I do!

ISTR that you called one of the other allotment holders "a fat tart" to her
face. That's an incinerated bridge for me.
It's totally unacceptable behaviour on a shared site and is why I keep my
privately owned 1/3 acre veggie plot for myself and family.
Oh, yes, everyone wants in, but I wouldn't risk it just in case I got
someone like you who thought it was fine to insult the other plotholders.
"If" you ever did such a thing on my ground, your arse would not touch the
fence I kicked you over. And the key I gave you to access it would have to
be returned immediately.

Manure too fresh?
 

Christina Websell wrote:
ISTR that you called one of the other allotment holders "a fat tart" to her
face. That's an incinerated bridge for me.

I could be mis-remembering, but I think he only called her that on this
newsgroup, not to her face (or even, most likely, anywhere she's ever
likely to be aware of, let alone read)

Manure too fresh?
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2012-10-16 09:18:56 +0100, Jeff Layman said:

On 15/10/2012 14:47, Sacha wrote:

She went back a few hours later to find he'd
thrown it straight onto the flower beds and there were her plants,
waving helplessly at her from several inches of manure. They thrived.
They didn't burn and they didn't wilt.

Is this another "Old Gardening Chestnut" successfully debunked? There
must be a bookful for someone to write listing all the garbage which has
accumulated over the years!

The exception that proves the rules is supposed to be chicken manure,
which really can do some damage. That's best diluted in a bucket of water
and the water used as a fertiliser. I've also heard that cow manure can
be too strong to apply directly but as I've never tried that, I don't know
if it's the case.

I've brought in fresh cow plops from the paddock and dumped it on beds.
I've not had any damage but then I wasn't putting it on seedlings or
immature plants or near the stems.

Manure too fresh?
 

On Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:14:13 PM UTC+1, Baz wrote:
I have had 40+ open bags of horse manure delivered today, Sunday. So it is

not quite retail.

It is not rotted and looks like it was "laid" 3 or 4 weeks ago.

Ok, I got it for free but was wondering what I am going to do with it.

I think it is not weedkiller infested because there is some grass or

something growing in some of them.

What to do? I don't have a big enough area to compost it.

Dig it in or bin it?



Baz


Rotting and digging in are ways to get maximum result with minimum failures. But that's all. Ignore both and lots of plants are perfectly happy. I don't dig anything in most of the time, just dump it on the surface, the worms etc do the work.

One year I had a load of sawdust to get rid of, and was clearing a patch so dug it in. I planted the lowest value crop, cabbages, right away and they thrived. They're all just best practice guidelines.


NT

Manure too fresh?
 

"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
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On 15/10/2012 14:47, Sacha wrote:

She went back a few hours later to find he'd
thrown it straight onto the flower beds and there were her plants,
waving helplessly at her from several inches of manure. They thrived.
They didn't burn and they didn't wilt.

Is this another "Old Gardening Chestnut" successfully debunked?

I've never been convinced by any advice given by anyone about manure
'burning' plants.

I think the reason for that is that I've used manure for decades and
sometimes in very fresh condition but I've always thought about how and
where I will use it and i have always ahd big garens.

I wouldn't put hen manure from directly under the perchs straight on a bed
of tiny seedlings, but I have dumped a lot of underperch poo under an
Alister Clark climbing rose which like many of his roses had been bred with
rosa gigantea in it's parentage. No ill effects and that manure was still
soggy and very fresh. Just 2 days ago we had to hack that rose back because
it was threatening to strangle anyone trying to use the gate to get into the
orchard.

Manure too fresh?
 

wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:
ISTR that you called one of the other allotment holders "a fat tart" to
her
face. That's an incinerated bridge for me.

I could be mis-remembering, but I think he only called her that on this
newsgroup, not to her face (or even, most likely, anywhere she's ever
likely to be aware of, let alone read)

No, I think he did it to her face. If that is so, he'd be off my place
immediately The key would be changed. Inexcusable.

Manure too fresh?
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2012-10-18 20:08:01 +0100, "Christina Websell"
said:


wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:
ISTR that you called one of the other allotment holders "a fat tart" to
her
face. That's an incinerated bridge for me.

I could be mis-remembering, but I think he only called her that on this
newsgroup, not to her face (or even, most likely, anywhere she's ever
likely to be aware of, let alone read)

No, I think he did it to her face. If that is so, he'd be off my place
immediately The key would be changed. Inexcusable.

No, he did not say he'd done that. He described her as such on here and
it's nothing to do with any of us.
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I disagree. He did say he'd said it to her ( or her husband)
He's made a very bad start on his allotment. IMO.
If you want to share you have to be nice.

Manure too fresh?
 

Christina Websell wrote:
I could be mis-remembering, but I think he only called her that on this
newsgroup, not to her face (or even, most likely, anywhere she's ever
likely to be aware of, let alone read)

No, I think he did it to her face. If that is so, he'd be off my place
immediately The key would be changed. Inexcusable.

No, he did not say he'd done that. He described her as such on here and
it's nothing to do with any of us.
--

I disagree. He did say he'd said it to her ( or her husband)
He's made a very bad start on his allotment. IMO.
If you want to share you have to be nice.

No, he really didn't say that he'd said it to her or her husband. I went
back and checked, and you appear to have interpretted it in this way in
this way there, too. But nowhere that I found did he say that he called her
that, only refered to her as that in the post here. Which in theory, she
could read, but I would put that down as "highly unlikely".