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No Name 06-11-2012 10:36 AM

Sterilising soil
 
Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?

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David Hill 06-11-2012 11:10 AM

Sterilising soil
 
On 06/11/2012 10:36, wrote:
Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?

I'd use the microwave, much easier

No Name 06-11-2012 01:22 PM

Sterilising soil
 
Chris Hogg wrote:
Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?

I'd use the microwave, much easier


+1

See for example
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...il/sterile.htm


Excellent, thank you

[email protected] 06-11-2012 01:30 PM

Sterilising soil
 
On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:42:58 PM UTC, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:10:58 +0000, David Hill
wrote:
On 06/11/2012 10:36, wrote:


Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?

I'd use the microwave, much easier


+1
See for example
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...il/sterile.htm

Just nuke it till it steams, no need to make life overly complex


NT

Baz[_3_] 06-11-2012 01:49 PM

Sterilising soil
 
wrote in news:9dbce65d-f606-47dc-8063-
:

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:42:58 PM UTC, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:10:58 +0000, David Hill
wrote:
On 06/11/2012 10:36,
wrote:

Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?

I'd use the microwave, much easier


+1
See for example
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...il/sterile.htm

Just nuke it till it steams, no need to make life overly complex


NT


Bit like a cake, it might not be done in the middle. Depends on how thick
the mix is. Clay or sandy. We don't want to over egg the pudding, or in
this case, under egg.
Just a lighthearted jape.

Baz

Stephen Wolstenholme[_2_] 06-11-2012 02:13 PM

Sterilising soil
 
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:10:58 +0000, David Hill
wrote:

On 06/11/2012 10:36, wrote:
Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?

I'd use the microwave, much easier


Most microwaves will not sterilise dry soil. The soil will have to be
wet all the way through. A bit like cooking a mud pie.

Steve

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David Hill 06-11-2012 02:35 PM

Sterilising soil
 
On 06/11/2012 14:13, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:10:58 +0000, David Hill
wrote:

On 06/11/2012 10:36, wrote:
Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?

I'd use the microwave, much easier


Most microwaves will not sterilise dry soil. The soil will have to be
wet all the way through. A bit like cooking a mud pie.

Steve

Damp, not wet, I use an old rat bait container (No metal handle)that
holds around 10 litres of soil, make sure that there are no stones in
the soil, and DON'T pack the soil in hard, loose works much better.
I give it around 20 mins on full power with a lid on loosely to hold the
steam in. Leave it to stand for half an hour before tipping it out.
If you have 2 containers then you can get quite a lot done in a morning.
I bought a cheap microwave for this,

Chris J Dixon 06-11-2012 03:44 PM

Sterilising soil
 
wrote:

Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

For entertainment only, I will share my dad's method of soil
sterilisation.

He used a wooden box, probably an old packing case, inserted a
metal plate at each end and filled it with soil. The plates were
connected to the mains, via an ammeter. Then he added water
until the soil resistance lowered, and hence the ammeter reading
rose to the desired level. It was left to simmer for hours. I can
smell it now.

Chris
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No Name 06-11-2012 04:04 PM

Sterilising soil
 
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?

I'd use the microwave, much easier


Most microwaves will not sterilise dry soil. The soil will have to be
wet all the way through. A bit like cooking a mud pie.


Wet is not currently an issue!

Ophelia[_6_] 06-11-2012 04:34 PM

Sterilising soil
 


"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

For entertainment only, I will share my dad's method of soil
sterilisation.

He used a wooden box, probably an old packing case, inserted a
metal plate at each end and filled it with soil. The plates were
connected to the mains, via an ammeter. Then he added water
until the soil resistance lowered, and hence the ammeter reading
rose to the desired level. It was left to simmer for hours. I can
smell it now.


Glory Be!!! I bet you could :))
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David Hill 06-11-2012 05:06 PM

Sterilising soil
 
On 06/11/2012 16:34, Ophelia wrote:


"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

For entertainment only, I will share my dad's method of soil
sterilisation.

He used a wooden box, probably an old packing case, inserted a
metal plate at each end and filled it with soil. The plates were
connected to the mains, via an ammeter. Then he added water
until the soil resistance lowered, and hence the ammeter reading
rose to the desired level. It was left to simmer for hours. I can
smell it now.


Glory Be!!! I bet you could :))


Also in the 40's and 50's they had soil warming using a step down
transformer and ordinary fencing wire put around 12 inches below the
soil surface.

'Mike'[_4_] 06-11-2012 05:17 PM

Sterilising soil
 


"David Hill" wrote in message
...
On 06/11/2012 16:34, Ophelia wrote:


"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

For entertainment only, I will share my dad's method of soil
sterilisation.

He used a wooden box, probably an old packing case, inserted a
metal plate at each end and filled it with soil. The plates were
connected to the mains, via an ammeter. Then he added water
until the soil resistance lowered, and hence the ammeter reading
rose to the desired level. It was left to simmer for hours. I can
smell it now.


Glory Be!!! I bet you could :))


Also in the 40's and 50's they had soil warming using a step down
transformer and ordinary fencing wire put around 12 inches below the soil
surface.


It was crossing my mind as the whether he had a battery charger in the
circuit to cut it down to 12 volts. Seems a bit dangerous to apply 240 Volt
AC :-(

Mike


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Ophelia[_6_] 06-11-2012 06:28 PM

Sterilising soil
 


"David Hill" wrote in message
...
On 06/11/2012 16:34, Ophelia wrote:


"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

For entertainment only, I will share my dad's method of soil
sterilisation.

He used a wooden box, probably an old packing case, inserted a
metal plate at each end and filled it with soil. The plates were
connected to the mains, via an ammeter. Then he added water
until the soil resistance lowered, and hence the ammeter reading
rose to the desired level. It was left to simmer for hours. I can
smell it now.


Glory Be!!! I bet you could :))


Also in the 40's and 50's they had soil warming using a step down
transformer and ordinary fencing wire put around 12 inches below the soil
surface.


Crumbs.

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[email protected] 07-11-2012 10:36 AM

Sterilising soil
 
On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 1:49:07 PM UTC, Baz wrote:
wrote in news:9dbce65d-f606-47dc-8063-
:
On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:42:58 PM UTC, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:10:58 +0000, David Hill
wrote:
On 06/11/2012 10:36,
wrote:


Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to 'bake' it
in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?


I'd use the microwave, much easier
+1
See for example
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...il/sterile.htm

Just nuke it till it steams, no need to make life overly complex
NT


Bit like a cake, it might not be done in the middle. Depends on how thick

the mix is. Clay or sandy. We don't want to over egg the pudding, or in
this case, under egg.
Just a lighthearted jape.
Baz


I'd feel sorry for anyone that couldn't figure out a solution to that one

Baz[_3_] 07-11-2012 03:04 PM

Sterilising soil
 
wrote in
:

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 1:49:07 PM UTC, Baz wrote:
wrote in news:9dbce65d-f606-47dc-8063-
:
On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:42:58 PM UTC, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:10:58 +0000, David Hill
wrote:
On 06/11/2012 10:36,
wrote:


Someone suggested a while back that the best* way to
sterilise some
garden soil or manure for putting on mushrooms would be to
'bake' it in the oven.

What temperature and for how long would be effective?


I'd use the microwave, much easier
+1
See for example
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...il/sterile.htm

Just nuke it till it steams, no need to make life overly complex
NT


Bit like a cake, it might not be done in the middle. Depends on how
thick

the mix is. Clay or sandy. We don't want to over egg the pudding, or
in this case, under egg.
Just a lighthearted jape.
Baz


I'd feel sorry for anyone that couldn't figure out a solution to that
one


Thorday and Dodson used to do this large scale.

Baz


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