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The Original Jake 09-01-2013 03:34 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 
For anyone interested in a briefish glimpse of Veddw House Garden,
there were about 5 minutes of it on today's (9 January) edition of
Escape to the Country on BBC1. Should be on iPlayer tomorrow if not
later today.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.

Derek Turner 09-01-2013 04:35 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:34:11 +0000, The Original Jake wrote:

For anyone interested in a briefish glimpse of Veddw House Garden, there
were about 5 minutes of it on today's (9 January) edition of Escape to
the Country on BBC1. Should be on iPlayer tomorrow if not later today.


What a strange ******* spelling! Where is it? right on the Welsh/English
border?

Derek Turner 09-01-2013 05:34 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:37:20 +0100, Martin wrote:

What a strange ******* spelling! Where is it? right on the Welsh/English
border?


http://veddw.com/


clicks

That'll be a 'yes' then.

and I note the 'correct' spelling in the 'where to find us'

Address Veddw House, The Fedw, Devauden, Monmouthshire NP16 6PH

Which just leaves the mystery of 'Devauden', another *******? Yep, Welsh:
Y Dyfawden

The Original Jake 09-01-2013 05:37 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 
On 9 Jan 2013 16:35:01 GMT, Derek Turner wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:34:11 +0000, The Original Jake wrote:

For anyone interested in a briefish glimpse of Veddw House Garden, there
were about 5 minutes of it on today's (9 January) edition of Escape to
the Country on BBC1. Should be on iPlayer tomorrow if not later today.


What a strange ******* spelling! Where is it? right on the Welsh/English
border?


Very close. A bit north west of Chepstow. Over the years it's been
spelt differently (Fedw, Vedw, Veddw et al) and Anne Wareham's erected
a bench which is decorated with the various spellings and their
dates. Currently known as Veddw House Garden.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.

Bill Grey 09-01-2013 10:22 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 

"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:34:11 +0000, The Original Jake wrote:

For anyone interested in a briefish glimpse of Veddw House Garden, there
were about 5 minutes of it on today's (9 January) edition of Escape to
the Country on BBC1. Should be on iPlayer tomorrow if not later today.


What a strange ******* spelling! Where is it? right on the Welsh/English
border?


Parts of south eastern Wales still has the letter V in use. I don't know
the origin of this anomaly as we all know the sound "V" is represented by
the letter "f" in the Welsh language.

Bill



Bill Grey 09-01-2013 10:31 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 

"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:37:20 +0100, Martin wrote:

What a strange ******* spelling! Where is it? right on the Welsh/English
border?


http://veddw.com/


clicks

That'll be a 'yes' then.

and I note the 'correct' spelling in the 'where to find us'

Address Veddw House, The Fedw, Devauden, Monmouthshire NP16 6PH

Which just leaves the mystery of 'Devauden', another *******? Yep, Welsh:
Y Dyfawden


No such word - but I'm happy to becorrected

But Fedw is Welsh for Birch.

Bill
elsh for Birch

Bill



Janet Tweedy[_2_] 10-01-2013 12:34 AM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 
On 09/01/2013 22:22, Bill Grey wrote:
Parts of south eastern Wales still has the letter V in use. I don't know
the origin of this anomaly as we all know the sound "V" is represented by
the letter "f" in the Welsh language.

Bill



double v rather than double u?

--
Janet T.
Amersham

Derek Turner 10-01-2013 12:10 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:31:23 +0000, Bill Grey wrote:

No such word - but I'm happy to becorrected


Y Dyfawden
Neidio i: llywio, chwilio
Y Dyfawden

Pentref a chymuned yn Sir Fynwy yw Y Dyfawden (Saesneg: Devauden).

Saif i'r gogledd-orllewin o dref Cas-gwent ar y ffordd B4293. Mae'r
gymuned hefyd yn cynnwys pentref bychan Fedw. Dywedir i John Wesley
bregethu ei bregeth gyntaf yng Nghymru yn y Dyfawden ar 15 Hydref 1739.

Ceir Croes Cilgwrwg yn yr eglwys leol, a gofrestrwyd gan Cadw.

Bill Grey 10-01-2013 03:43 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 

"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:31:23 +0000, Bill Grey wrote:

No such word - but I'm happy to becorrected


Y Dyfawden
Neidio i: llywio, chwilio
Y Dyfawden

Pentref a chymuned yn Sir Fynwy yw Y Dyfawden (Saesneg: Devauden).

Saif i'r gogledd-orllewin o dref Cas-gwent ar y ffordd B4293. Mae'r
gymuned hefyd yn cynnwys pentref bychan Fedw. Dywedir i John Wesley
bregethu ei bregeth gyntaf yng Nghymru yn y Dyfawden ar 15 Hydref 1739.

Ceir Croes Cilgwrwg yn yr eglwys leol, a gofrestrwyd gan Cadw.


I like to think the name is a corruption of Ffawydden (Birch) so the name
Devauden does not have a translation as it stands.

Bill

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Bill Grey 10-01-2013 03:43 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 

"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
On 09/01/2013 22:22, Bill Grey wrote:
Parts of south eastern Wales still has the letter V in use. I don't know
the origin of this anomaly as we all know the sound "V" is represented by
the letter "f" in the Welsh language.

Bill



double v rather than double u?

--
Janet T.
Amersham


??

Bill



The Original Jake 10-01-2013 05:23 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:43:05 -0000, "Bill Grey"
wrote:


"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:31:23 +0000, Bill Grey wrote:

No such word - but I'm happy to becorrected


Y Dyfawden
Neidio i: llywio, chwilio
Y Dyfawden

Pentref a chymuned yn Sir Fynwy yw Y Dyfawden (Saesneg: Devauden).

Saif i'r gogledd-orllewin o dref Cas-gwent ar y ffordd B4293. Mae'r
gymuned hefyd yn cynnwys pentref bychan Fedw. Dywedir i John Wesley
bregethu ei bregeth gyntaf yng Nghymru yn y Dyfawden ar 15 Hydref 1739.

Ceir Croes Cilgwrwg yn yr eglwys leol, a gofrestrwyd gan Cadw.


I like to think the name is a corruption of Ffawydden (Birch) so the name
Devauden does not have a translation as it stands.

Bill

Sorry, Bill, it's beech, not birch. Bedwen is birch - hence bedw/fedw
and its corruptions.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.

Sacha[_10_] 10-01-2013 06:52 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 
On 2013-01-09 15:34:11 +0000, The Original Jake said:

For anyone interested in a briefish glimpse of Veddw House Garden,
there were about 5 minutes of it on today's (9 January) edition of
Escape to the Country on BBC1. Should be on iPlayer tomorrow if not
later today.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.


Just watched it. It gives a very good 'feel' of the place, even though
so brief. That bench at the top is superbly located. I sat there for
ages and could well be there now if hadn't been called away! As you
say, Anne did a LOT of research into the names of Veddw and its uses
before making the garden. She's been very 'respectful', if that's the
right word, of it's origins and history.

--
Sacha


Bill Grey 10-01-2013 06:59 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 

"The Original Jake" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:43:05 -0000, "Bill Grey"
wrote:


"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:31:23 +0000, Bill Grey wrote:

No such word - but I'm happy to becorrected

Y Dyfawden
Neidio i: llywio, chwilio
Y Dyfawden

Pentref a chymuned yn Sir Fynwy yw Y Dyfawden (Saesneg: Devauden).

Saif i'r gogledd-orllewin o dref Cas-gwent ar y ffordd B4293. Mae'r
gymuned hefyd yn cynnwys pentref bychan Fedw. Dywedir i John Wesley
bregethu ei bregeth gyntaf yng Nghymru yn y Dyfawden ar 15 Hydref 1739.

Ceir Croes Cilgwrwg yn yr eglwys leol, a gofrestrwyd gan Cadw.


I like to think the name is a corruption of Ffawydden (Birch) so the
name
Devauden does not have a translation as it stands.

Bill

Sorry, Bill, it's beech, not birch. Bedwen is birch - hence bedw/fedw
and its corruptions.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.


Don't apologise Jake it is entirely my fault. I know it's beech but I still
typed Birch.

Living so near to Birchgrove - Gellifedw I shouldn't have made
/that/mistake(typo)

At least I'm keeping you on your toes :-)

Bill



The Original Jake 10-01-2013 10:43 PM

A Few Minutes of Veddw
 
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:59:30 -0000, "Bill Grey"
wrote:


At least I'm keeping you on your toes :-)

Bill

And they are very damp toes. I still have about quarter of an inch of
water on top of the back lawn surface. When I "built" the pond I
provided for an overflow system which I thought would take care of the
wettest winter. That's been overwhelmed and I think the pond banks are
in danger of collapsing now, particularly as resident cat won't stay
off them. He's already been in the water once this year after a
mini-collapse but didn't seem to mind in the least. Indeed, he
objected to my attempts to remove him from the water!


Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.


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