Beechgrove Garden Going National
Beechgrove fans, and potential fans who cannot get BBC Scotland for
some reason, my be glad to hear that this year's series of Beechgrove Garden will be broadcast on BBC2 nationwide on Sunday lunchtimes from late March/early April. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes it's raining and sometimes it's not. |
Beechgrove Garden Going National
"The Original Jake" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:34:02 +0100, Martin wrote: Given that the move "national" is in response to the programme's popularity established through iPlayer and satellite, I would doubt that Auntie would want to change a successful formula. Cheers, Jake What? Don't you know that 'Auntie' considers all change to be good! If there is a successful format, the first move will be to change it. This will not be to the benefit of the rest of the UK but to Scotland's detriment. Phil |
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On 12/01/2013 11:59, Martin wrote:
Expect The One Show's hair dresser to make an appearance.:) and a celebrity chef, one of the presenters will be on Strictly and they will be given the task of doing a makeover for a school or 'deprived ' council estate householder -- Janet T. Amersham |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:57:35 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote: On 12/01/2013 11:59, Martin wrote: Expect The One Show's hair dresser to make an appearance.:) and a celebrity chef, one of the presenters will be on Strictly and they will be given the task of doing a makeover for a school or 'deprived ' council estate householder Euuugggh! Eddie the Eagle is back too! I visited Beechgrove many years ago in Aberdeen:) I loved it, but that Carole ? was convinced she knew me. It got a bit embarrassing but she was a very nice lassie:) -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:31:13 -0000, "Ophelia" wrote: "Martin" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:57:35 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote: On 12/01/2013 11:59, Martin wrote: Expect The One Show's hair dresser to make an appearance.:) and a celebrity chef, one of the presenters will be on Strictly and they will be given the task of doing a makeover for a school or 'deprived ' council estate householder Euuugggh! Eddie the Eagle is back too! I visited Beechgrove many years ago in Aberdeen:) I loved it, but that Carole ? was convinced she knew me. It got a bit embarrassing but she was a very nice lassie:) I don't know the names of any of those who appear in Beechgrove. It's personality cult/celeb free. All the people in Beechgrove appear to be very nice. It's one of the things we like about the programme. Did they not move venue some years ago? -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On 13/01/2013 08:48, Martin wrote:
Eddie the Eagle is back too! -- what on Strictly? I'm afraid i don't watch that no any of the xyz factor stuff nor Dancing on water/ice/floorboards et al Though I DO like Silent Witness and Lewis if that's any help :) -- Janet T. Amersham |
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On 13/01/2013 10:38, Martin wrote:
All the people in Beechgrove appear to be very nice. It's one of the things we like about the programme. -- Me TOO no sense of Egos being massaged or personalities being given bigger spots. Is it because they come from Scotland and not hyped up Southern England/London? They are honest as well in their reviews which you don't get the feeling happens on programmes made south of the Wash. -- Janet T. Amersham |
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On 13/01/2013 11:34, Janet wrote:
Beechgrove has done Community Garden outreach section for years past. With a completely different approach from makeovers in Gardeners World etc. yes well, shuffle shuffle, I do tend to fast forward to gardening and lots of children. Sorry, there's only so much showing children how to plant, that i can watch, but that's my personal point of view. Their other makeovers they seem to integrate into the prgrammes as another venue to comment and advise without 'makeover' becoming the be all and end all of the content -- Janet T. Amersham |
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On 12/01/2013 11:55, The Original Jake wrote:
Given that the move "national" is in response to the programme's popularity established through iPlayer and satellite, I would doubt that Auntie would want to change a successful formula. huh, they did with GW when Geoff died and having regrown to a successful show (apart from the inane acting at the end with "communal cups of coffee" and "pretending to be surprised the others were there") they again changed it for the worse after AT retired. -- Janet T. Amersham |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:49:07 +0000, Janet Tweedy
wrote: On 12/01/2013 11:55, The Original Jake wrote: Given that the move "national" is in response to the programme's popularity established through iPlayer and satellite, I would doubt that Auntie would want to change a successful formula. huh, they did with GW when Geoff died and having regrown to a successful show (apart from the inane acting at the end with "communal cups of coffee" and "pretending to be surprised the others were there") they again changed it for the worse after AT retired. I think there are three elements here that will militate against destruction of the current format: 1) With one exception (a replacement) the presenters will be the same; that replacement is either going to be Scottish or be someone who is prepared to "become Scottish". Whoever it is will need to fit with a team that gels - there is no "lead Monty" tying together self-standing segments from the likes of Carol, Rachel and Joe; 2) The production company (Tern TV) will be the same and the base (the Beechgrove Garden near Aberdeen) will be the same; 3) The programme is made for BBC Scotland. It is a popular format in Scotland just as it is. BBC Scotland (and indeed BBC Wales) are no pushovers to BBC HQ. There may be a 4th factor - Auntie must be painfully aware that her tinkering with the GW format has resulted in a haemorrhage of viewers. I think she's testing the water. We'll see. The other night a group of us were discussing gardening TV over the proverbial pint. We remembered the likes of Percy Thrower, Clay Jones and his good pea and so on. Giving age away!!! Going around the table, all 9 of us used to almost worship the sainted Geoff and were happy with Alan. We were put off by the holier-than-thou preaching of Monty in incarnation 1 and thought that Toby Buckland wasn't given a chance because some mandarin wanted a tarty programme. We had high hopes of Monty2 but those hopes have been dashed. None of the nine now watches GW. We all watch Beechgrove and, after 30-40 years of gardening each, we all say we learn something from it. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes it's raining and sometimes it's not. |
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On 2013-01-13 18:51:04 +0000, The Original Jake said:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:49:07 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote: On 12/01/2013 11:55, The Original Jake wrote: Given that the move "national" is in response to the programme's popularity established through iPlayer and satellite, I would doubt that Auntie would want to change a successful formula. huh, they did with GW when Geoff died and having regrown to a successful show (apart from the inane acting at the end with "communal cups of coffee" and "pretending to be surprised the others were there") they again changed it for the worse after AT retired. I think there are three elements here that will militate against destruction of the current format: 1) With one exception (a replacement) the presenters will be the same; that replacement is either going to be Scottish or be someone who is prepared to "become Scottish". Whoever it is will need to fit with a team that gels - there is no "lead Monty" tying together self-standing segments from the likes of Carol, Rachel and Joe; 2) The production company (Tern TV) will be the same and the base (the Beechgrove Garden near Aberdeen) will be the same; 3) The programme is made for BBC Scotland. It is a popular format in Scotland just as it is. BBC Scotland (and indeed BBC Wales) are no pushovers to BBC HQ. There may be a 4th factor - Auntie must be painfully aware that her tinkering with the GW format has resulted in a haemorrhage of viewers. I think she's testing the water. We'll see. The other night a group of us were discussing gardening TV over the proverbial pint. We remembered the likes of Percy Thrower, Clay Jones and his good pea and so on. Giving age away!!! Going around the table, all 9 of us used to almost worship the sainted Geoff and were happy with Alan. We were put off by the holier-than-thou preaching of Monty in incarnation 1 and thought that Toby Buckland wasn't given a chance because some mandarin wanted a tarty programme. We had high hopes of Monty2 but those hopes have been dashed. None of the nine now watches GW. We all watch Beechgrove and, after 30-40 years of gardening each, we all say we learn something from it. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes it's raining and sometimes it's not. We've simply given up on GW. Whatever one's personal preference, Monty's attitude to organic being 'the only way' is simply wrong for a public service programme. And that's what GW is or should be. People are sufficiently adult to decide for themselves how to work their gardens, imo. We thought Toby did a really good job but wasn't allowed to develop his own approach far enough or long enough. We just don't watch the programme any more. It's totally unconvincing in terms of the work done, the amount of it and the bods involved. It's a shame and imo, a disgrace, that at a time when more and more people are wanting to grow their own food, the reality is not being shown to them and they are being taught only one approach by one person whose personal creed dominates the whole thing. The wrong people are directing these gardening programmes and what is needed are people with experience of gardening, not television. The camera angles, grinning faces and lighting should be secondary to 'how to grow potatoes'. As I say, we've given up watching - no point, no enjoyment. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:01:48 +0000, Sacha wrote:
We've simply given up on GW. Whatever one's personal preference, Monty's attitude to organic being 'the only way' is simply wrong for a public service programme. And that's what GW is or should be. I sent a letter to several gardening mags but none published it. So I blogged at http://www.rivendell.org.uk/garden/?p=542. Essentially, Monty lied. There's no other way to put it. That day, GW ceased to be a factual programme and became fantasy. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes it's raining and sometimes it's not. |
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On 13/01/2013 18:41, Janet wrote:
Beechgrove has been made and broadcast in Scotland since 1978. Janet. Doesn't mean to say they won't 'improve ' it Janet ! :) -- Janet T. Amersham |
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On 13/01/2013 21:57, Martin wrote:
We used to like Midsomer Murders, but not any more. -- oh same here, now it's gone too weird although I can take the new detective , it's the story lines/plots which are stupid. -- Janet T. Amersham |
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