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Bee deterrent?
A rather odd question perhaps.
A cottage locally is being plagued by small bees. I don't know the name, species or type of bee. They are nesting within the old and soft brickwork. No nesting within the building. Might be able to get a pic of one, if of any interest. I would like to deter them, I most certainly do not want to kill/eradicate them. They don't bother me but are bothering the tenants and their young children. Any ideas please for a suitable deterrent or some enticement to persuade them to move house? Thank you, Nick. |
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On 04/05/2013 22:10, Nick wrote:
A rather odd question perhaps. A cottage locally is being plagued by small bees. I don't know the name, species or type of bee. They are nesting within the old and soft brickwork. No nesting within the building. Might be able to get a pic of one, if of any interest. I would like to deter them, I most certainly do not want to kill/eradicate them. They don't bother me but are bothering the tenants and their young children. Any ideas please for a suitable deterrent or some enticement to persuade them to move house? Thank you, Nick. http://www.spab.org.uk/advice/techni...-masonry-bees/ |
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"David Hill" wrote in message ... On 04/05/2013 22:10, Nick wrote: A rather odd question perhaps. A cottage locally is being plagued by small bees. I don't know the name, species or type of bee. They are nesting within the old and soft brickwork. No nesting within the building. Might be able to get a pic of one, if of any interest. I would like to deter them, I most certainly do not want to kill/eradicate them. They don't bother me but are bothering the tenants and their young children. Any ideas please for a suitable deterrent or some enticement to persuade them to move house? Thank you, Nick. http://www.spab.org.uk/advice/techni...-masonry-bees/ That appears to be spot on. How best to deal with the occupants is another question |
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They don't bother me but are bothering the tenants and their young children. Any ideas please for a suitable deterrent or some enticement to persuade them to move house? It's far better to educate the humans. Why are they bothered? They are flapping over nothing - I don't know if those bees can sting, but I am pretty sure that they never do. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Thank you Nick, I agree entirely. Unfortunately this infestation is on the S facing wall at the front of the cottage. Warm weather, windows and doors open. Children playing. Insects buzzing around within the house. I feel this would be naturally worrisome to caring (young) parents. At dusk windows and doors close. Insects trapped within the building. They will be fretting, as will the other occupants. The link sent by David Hill seems to describe the situation very well. It also appears that the female of the species can sting (why does this not surprise me). Regards, Nick. |
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Nick wrote: A rather odd question perhaps. A cottage locally is being plagued by small bees. I don't know the name, species or type of bee. They are nesting within the old and soft brickwork. No nesting within the building. Might be able to get a pic of one, if of any interest. I would like to deter them, I most certainly do not want to kill/eradicate them. They don't bother me but are bothering the tenants and their young children. Any ideas please for a suitable deterrent or some enticement to persuade them to move house? It's far better to educate the humans. Why are they bothered? They are flapping over nothing - I don't know if those bees can sting, but I am pretty sure that they never do. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Nick wrote: I agree entirely. Unfortunately this infestation is on the S facing wall at the front of the cottage. Warm weather, windows and doors open. Children playing. Insects buzzing around within the house. I feel this would be naturally worrisome to caring (young) parents. Well, only to ones who have lived all of their lives in cities, which I agree is most of the UK. I am not saying that education is necessarily easy, because they will have been indoctrinated into the Synthetic Society all of their lives. At dusk windows and doors close. Insects trapped within the building. They will be fretting, as will the other occupants. The link sent by David Hill seems to describe the situation very well. It also appears that the female of the species can sting (why does this not surprise me). It's like bumble bees. When one gets trapped inside, I usually just cup it in my hands to let it out. I get stung a couple of times a year, but only by treading on them in bare feet, never just by handling them. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"David Hill" wrote in message ... On 04/05/2013 22:10, Nick wrote: A rather odd question perhaps. A cottage locally is being plagued by small bees. I don't know the name, species or type of bee. They are nesting within the old and soft brickwork. No nesting within the building. Might be able to get a pic of one, if of any interest. I would like to deter them, I most certainly do not want to kill/eradicate them. They don't bother me but are bothering the tenants and their young children. Any ideas please for a suitable deterrent or some enticement to persuade them to move house? Thank you, Nick. http://www.spab.org.uk/advice/techni...-masonry-bees/ I would not know a mason bee if I saw one but I did get some snaps of a Ruby-tail wasp which is a parasite on mason bees. https://picasaweb.google.com/1132818...eat=directlink The photos show the wasp entering a nest where the mason bee had laid an egg. The circular 'tunnel' is in fact a countersunk screw-hole about 6 mm in diameter, plastered over by the bee, which shows what a tiny creature the wasp is. Quite the most gaudy colour I have seen on any animal. R. |
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On 04/05/2013 23:01, Nick wrote:
"David wrote in message ... On 04/05/2013 22:10, Nick wrote: A rather odd question perhaps. A cottage locally is being plagued by small bees. I don't know the name, species or type of bee. They are nesting within the old and soft brickwork. No nesting within the building. Might be able to get a pic of one, if of any interest. I would like to deter them, I most certainly do not want to kill/eradicate them. They don't bother me but are bothering the tenants and their young children. Any ideas please for a suitable deterrent or some enticement to persuade them to move house? Thank you, Nick. http://www.spab.org.uk/advice/techni...-masonry-bees/ That appears to be spot on. How best to deal with the occupants is another question Read that helpful link from David Hill again, especially the 4th paragraph/question-and-answer. Your neighbours need to repoint the south face of their house (and perhaps the west, too, since that will also be warm and inviting) so that the bees go elsewhere for soft mortar. It is the only way to discourage the bees. -- Spider from high ground in SE London gardening on clay |
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Hello All
I had this variety at my last house in Chester, and it was fascinating to see them working. They never stung me or any of my children. Now down in Suffolk I "enjoy" another variety of these solitary bees. This one lays its eggs in some of my cactus pots. Most of the young seem to hatch out on the same day, and on that day I have 50-100 bees flying around in my greenhouse waiting for the automatic vents to open. I would prefer it if I could persuade them to nest in pots full of gritty soil with no plants growing in them, but I have not succeded yet. I do lose an occasional cactus plant due to root disturbance, but it is worth it to provide them with a home. Mine line their excavations with bits of leaf cut from plants mainly of the genus Rosaceae John -- John Rye Hadleigh IPSWICH England http://www.ryepad.plus.com --- Using RISC OS Six on an Acorn StrongArm RiscPC and under VARPC --- |
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On 05/05/2013 13:35, John Rye wrote:
Hello All I had this variety at my last house in Chester, and it was fascinating to see them working. They never stung me or any of my children. Now down in Suffolk I "enjoy" another variety of these solitary bees. This one lays its eggs in some of my cactus pots. Most of the young seem to hatch out on the same day, and on that day I have 50-100 bees flying around in my greenhouse waiting for the automatic vents to open. I would prefer it if I could persuade them to nest in pots full of gritty soil with no plants growing in them, but I have not succeded yet. I do lose an occasional cactus plant due to root disturbance, but it is worth it to provide them with a home. Mine line their excavations with bits of leaf cut from plants mainly of the genus Rosaceae John Sound like leaf cutter bees http://www.buzzaboutbees.net/leafcutter-bee.html |
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Spider wrote: Read that helpful link from David Hill again, especially the 4th paragraph/question-and-answer. Your neighbours need to repoint the south face of their house (and perhaps the west, too, since that will also be warm and inviting) so that the bees go elsewhere for soft mortar. It is the only way to discourage the bees. They're tenants. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 2013-05-05 13:55:11 +0100, Spider said:
On 05/05/2013 14:32, wrote: In , wrote: Read that helpful link from David Hill again, especially the 4th paragraph/question-and-answer. Your neighbours need to repoint the south face of their house (and perhaps the west, too, since that will also be warm and inviting) so that the bees go elsewhere for soft mortar. It is the only way to discourage the bees. They're tenants. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Indeed. I agree with you and would love them around my house, but if the OP's neighbours *really* want to evict them for child safety reasons, then re-pointing is the way to do it. It beats poisoning, which may be the other deadly deed. When I was little, I was taught and encouraged by my father to respect our natural fauna and understand them as far as possible. I *love* bees, including Masonry bees. Just as well since we have soft mortar. I think Nick Maclaren means the cottage's human occupants are tenants, so they won't be prepared - or perhaps, allowed - to undertake such a course of action as re-pointing. Nick-the-owner might be able to do so in late summer or autumn and prevent future worries and fears. Until then, I think the best idea is education as to what bees actually do. They are usually pretty docile creatures, uninterested in pursuing humans for fun! They won't sting unless seriously provoked. The children could - and should in any case - be taught to wear shoes when running round the garden and to be calm when walking through the 'bee area'. Standing in front of the bees' homes and flapping arms about etc. is asking for trouble whether they're in a wall or a hive. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Sun, 5 May 2013 15:05:46 +0100, Sacha wrote:
The children could - and should in any case - be taught to wear shoes when running round the garden ... Aye, I expect they will be jabbed up against Tetantus but Cellulitis is not very pleasant(*) and can be life threatening. ... and to be calm when walking through the 'bee area'. Standing in front of the bees' homes and flapping arms about etc. is asking for trouble whether they're in a wall or a hive. Aye. (*) Understatement. It is flaming agony, I dread to think how a child would react to the constant worst pins and needles you can imagine. I've had it twice and been hospitalised so they can intravenously shove in, every 4 hours (and I mean every fours hours, even through the night) high enough doses of antibiotics. 1 g of penicillin I remember but there were similar quantities of others, flucloxacillin being one of them. "Normal" doses are around the is 250 mg 4 times/day (6 hour) level. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Spider wrote: Indeed. I agree with you and would love them around my house, but if the OP's neighbours *really* want to evict them for child safety reasons, then re-pointing is the way to do it. It beats poisoning, which may be the other deadly deed. My point is that there are no such child safety reasons, unless one of their children is hyperallegic (and not just allergic) to bee stings. They may believe that there are but, if so, they are quite simply wrong. Bluntly, that is hysteria caused by ignorance. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 2013-05-05 15:34:51 +0100, Dave Liquorice said:
On Sun, 5 May 2013 15:05:46 +0100, Sacha wrote: The children could - and should in any case - be taught to wear shoes when running round the garden ... Aye, I expect they will be jabbed up against Tetantus but Cellulitis is not very pleasant(*) and can be life threatening. ... and to be calm when walking through the 'bee area'. Standing in front of the bees' homes and flapping arms about etc. is asking for trouble whether they're in a wall or a hive. Aye. (*) Understatement. It is flaming agony, I dread to think how a child would react to the constant worst pins and needles you can imagine. I've had it twice and been hospitalised so they can intravenously shove in, every 4 hours (and I mean every fours hours, even through the night) high enough doses of antibiotics. 1 g of penicillin I remember but there were similar quantities of others, flucloxacillin being one of them. "Normal" doses are around the is 250 mg 4 times/day (6 hour) level. I'm very allergic, so I'm not unsympathetic. But the first 'rule' for children really should be not to run about in bare feet, especially on a lawn with clover in it, or indeed, any flowers. And being calm around the bees is important. I swell up like a zeppelin if stung and have been warned not to get stung again. It hasn't been an ambition of mine to try it out!! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Saturday, 4 May 2013 22:10:17 UTC+1, Nick wrote:
A rather odd question perhaps. A cottage locally is being plagued by small bees. I don't know the name, species or type of bee. They are nesting within the old and soft brickwork. No nesting within the building. Might be able to get a pic of one, if of any interest. I would like to deter them, I most certainly do not want to kill/eradicate them. They don't bother me but are bothering the tenants and their young children. Any ideas please for a suitable deterrent or some enticement to persuade them to move house? Thank you, Nick. If the cottage is owned by you as landlord then just get it properly repointed. Rod |
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On 2013-05-05 18:05:03 +0100, Rod said:
On Saturday, 4 May 2013 22:10:17 UTC+1, Nick wrote: A rather odd question perhaps. A cottage locally is being plagued by small bees. I don't know the name, species or type of bee. They are nesting within the old and soft brickwork. No nesting within the building. Might be able to get a pic of one, if of any interest. I would like to deter them, I most certainly do not want to kill/eradicate them. They don't bother me but are bothering the tenants and their young children. Any ideas please for a suitable deterrent or some enticement to persuade them to move house? Thank you, Nick. If the cottage is owned by you as landlord then just get it properly repointed. Rod Late in the year, though. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 05/05/2013 15:34, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 5 May 2013 15:05:46 +0100, Sacha wrote: The children could - and should in any case - be taught to wear shoes when running round the garden ... Aye, I expect they will be jabbed up against Tetantus but Cellulitis is not very pleasant(*) and can be life threatening. ... and to be calm when walking through the 'bee area'. Standing in front of the bees' homes and flapping arms about etc. is asking for trouble whether they're in a wall or a hive. Aye. (*) Understatement. It is flaming agony, I dread to think how a child would react to the constant worst pins and needles you can imagine. I've had it twice and been hospitalised so they can intravenously shove in, every 4 hours (and I mean every fours hours, even through the night) high enough doses of antibiotics. 1 g of penicillin I remember but there were similar quantities of others, flucloxacillin being one of them. "Normal" doses are around the is 250 mg 4 times/day (6 hour) level. Strange using anti Biotics for stings, it's usually Anti histamine and adrenalin that they use. I was hypersensitive to Wasps and underwent 2 prolonged de sensitisation treatments, the last one lasted 32 weeks and was whole venom extract, but it worked. Aas for bees, I once rotovated close to 6 hives with a tractor rotovator, they didn't like it, I had over 40 stings removed from my head, that afternoon, next day I was back in work deeling a bit delacate. Had that been wasps I would not have been here to write this, the adrenalinI carried wouldn't have coped with that sort of dose. David @ a now sunny end of Swansea Bay. |
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If the cottage is owned by you as landlord then just get it properly
repointed. Rod Late in the year, though. Why, by then they will be hibernating in the walls. |
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It's well-known that swarming bees are much less likely to sting because their particular objective is to gather round the queen. It's their driving force at that time, so obstacles in their path are more likely to be disregarded. I am trying to picture a solitary bee swarming. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 5 May 2013 15:05:46 +0100, Sacha wrote: The children could - and should in any case - be taught to wear shoes when running round the garden ... Aye, I expect they will be jabbed up against Tetantus but Cellulitis is not very pleasant(*) and can be life threatening. I strongly disagree. Such problems are as likely to be caused by any other accident and, arguably, are more likely in people who have not had their immune system properly challenged as children. It is only within my lifetime that shoes have become more-or-less mandatory for children even in the UK. They should be taught to wear them when necessary which, for children who regularly go barefoot, does not mean in a well-kempt garden[*]. There is also the problem that people who never go barefoot are far MORE likely to injure their feet on the beach, because they are not accustomed to avoiding problems. ... and to be calm when walking through the 'bee area'. Standing in front of the bees' homes and flapping arms about etc. is asking for trouble whether they're in a wall or a hive. Aye. (*) Understatement. It is flaming agony, I dread to think how a child would react to the constant worst pins and needles you can imagine. I strongly agree with that. I have a couple of times had bee swarms blocking my only feasible route, and have walked slowly through them. Some of the bees bumped into me, but regarded me as some sort of mobile tree stump. [*] By which I mean free of broken glass, rusty metal and other such dangers to bare feet. Regrettably, it does include the branches of some thorny plants, but I carefully remove those as I don't like thorns in even my horny soles! I had a strict rule that the only person who was allowed to clean up broken glass barefoot was me - and showed them why! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 05/05/2013 15:05, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-05-05 13:55:11 +0100, Spider said: On 05/05/2013 14:32, wrote: In , wrote: Read that helpful link from David Hill again, especially the 4th paragraph/question-and-answer. Your neighbours need to repoint the south face of their house (and perhaps the west, too, since that will also be warm and inviting) so that the bees go elsewhere for soft mortar. It is the only way to discourage the bees. They're tenants. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Indeed. I agree with you and would love them around my house, but if the OP's neighbours *really* want to evict them for child safety reasons, then re-pointing is the way to do it. It beats poisoning, which may be the other deadly deed. When I was little, I was taught and encouraged by my father to respect our natural fauna and understand them as far as possible. I *love* bees, including Masonry bees. Just as well since we have soft mortar. I think Nick Maclaren means the cottage's human occupants are tenants, so they won't be prepared - or perhaps, allowed - to undertake such a course of action as re-pointing. !:~) You could be quite right, so I can see their difficulty. Nick-the-owner might be able to do so in late summer or autumn and prevent future worries and fears. Until then, I think the best idea is education as to what bees actually do. They are usually pretty docile creatures, uninterested in pursuing humans for fun! They won't sting unless seriously provoked. The children could - and should in any case - be taught to wear shoes when running round the garden and to be calm when walking through the 'bee area'. Standing in front of the bees' homes and flapping arms about etc. is asking for trouble whether they're in a wall or a hive. Well, yes, education would be the right way to go about it. I've tried no end of times trying to suggest bees are generally harmless. I usually get the "But they always sting me" type answer. I tend to give them the "Well, you always thrash your arms at them" reply, but it doesn't sink in. It also doesn't help that people apply scent, makeup and hairspray - and eat sticky foods - whilst in the great outdoors. No wonder the bees are attracted to explore what may be a food item. -- Spider from high ground in SE London gardening on clay |
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David Hill wrote: It's well-known that swarming bees are much less likely to sting because their particular objective is to gather round the queen. It's their driving force at that time, so obstacles in their path are more likely to be disregarded. I am trying to picture a solitary bee swarming. To an adept, that is no more difficult than to hear the sound of one hand clapping. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Sacha wrote: It's well-known that swarming bees are much less likely to sting because their particular objective is to gather round the queen. It's their driving force at that time, so obstacles in their path are more likely to be disregarded. Yes. There was a risk, but much less than driving to an airport. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 05/05/2013 21:51, wrote:
wrote: I strongly disagree. Such problems are as likely to be caused by any other accident and, arguably, are more likely in people who have not had their immune system properly challenged as children. It is only within my lifetime that shoes have become more-or-less mandatory for children even in the UK. They should be taught to wear them when necessary which, for children who regularly go barefoot, does not mean in a well-kempt garden[*]. I got a thorn in my foot for the first time this weekend. :-( Oddly, so did the little doggy next door. I won't even ask! |
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On Sun, 05 May 2013 19:55:35 +0100, Spider wrote:
Well, yes, education would be the right way to go about it. I've tried no end of times trying to suggest bees are generally harmless. I usually get the "But they always sting me" type answer. Do you then ask how many times they have *actually* been stung? More often than not the answere to that direct question is "never" or "er I think a couple of times". Their fear of being stung is not supported by the facts... -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 05 May 2013 19:55:35 +0100, Spider wrote: Well, yes, education would be the right way to go about it. I've tried no end of times trying to suggest bees are generally harmless. I usually get the "But they always sting me" type answer. Do you then ask how many times they have *actually* been stung? More often than not the answere to that direct question is "never" or "er I think a couple of times". Their fear of being stung is not supported by the facts... Or the standard Q&A: Q. How do you know that it was a bee that stung you? A.1 Because it was yellow and black. A.2 I didn't see it, but it stung me, therefore it was a bee. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 2013-05-05 18:58:42 +0100, David Hill said:
It's well-known that swarming bees are much less likely to sting because their particular objective is to gather round the queen. It's their driving force at that time, so obstacles in their path are more likely to be disregarded. I am trying to picture a solitary bee swarming. Lol! Haven't you heard of busy bees! But I was answering Nick's comment that he'd walked - carefully - through swarms. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-05-05 20:55:49 +0100, said:
In article , Sacha wrote: It's well-known that swarming bees are much less likely to sting because their particular objective is to gather round the queen. It's their driving force at that time, so obstacles in their path are more likely to be disregarded. Yes. There was a risk, but much less than driving to an airport. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Or possibly even flying. Our last experience when the landing gear wouldn't retract & they couldn't be sure it would lock down, has made me much happier with bees. I'm sure you follow my logic! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-05-05 18:34:38 +0100, David Hill said:
On 05/05/2013 15:34, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 5 May 2013 15:05:46 +0100, Sacha wrote: The children could - and should in any case - be taught to wear shoes when running round the garden ... Aye, I expect they will be jabbed up against Tetantus but Cellulitis is not very pleasant(*) and can be life threatening. ... and to be calm when walking through the 'bee area'. Standing in front of the bees' homes and flapping arms about etc. is asking for trouble whether they're in a wall or a hive. Aye. (*) Understatement. It is flaming agony, I dread to think how a child would react to the constant worst pins and needles you can imagine. I've had it twice and been hospitalised so they can intravenously shove in, every 4 hours (and I mean every fours hours, even through the night) high enough doses of antibiotics. 1 g of penicillin I remember but there were similar quantities of others, flucloxacillin being one of them. "Normal" doses are around the is 250 mg 4 times/day (6 hour) level. Strange using anti Biotics for stings, it's usually Anti histamine and adrenalin that they use. I was hypersensitive to Wasps and underwent 2 prolonged de sensitisation treatments, the last one lasted 32 weeks and was whole venom extract, but it worked. Aas for bees, I once rotovated close to 6 hives with a tractor rotovator, they didn't like it, I had over 40 stings removed from my head, that afternoon, next day I was back in work deeling a bit delacate. Had that been wasps I would not have been here to write this, the adrenalinI carried wouldn't have coped with that sort of dose. David @ a now sunny end of Swansea Bay. It's surprising nobody warned you to keep away from the hives. That kind of vibration on ground close to their hives sets them off bigtime - as you discovered! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-05-05 19:55:35 +0100, Spider said:
On 05/05/2013 15:05, Sacha wrote: On 2013-05-05 13:55:11 +0100, Spider said: On 05/05/2013 14:32, wrote: In , wrote: Read that helpful link from David Hill again, especially the 4th paragraph/question-and-answer. Your neighbours need to repoint the south face of their house (and perhaps the west, too, since that will also be warm and inviting) so that the bees go elsewhere for soft mortar. It is the only way to discourage the bees. They're tenants. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Indeed. I agree with you and would love them around my house, but if the OP's neighbours *really* want to evict them for child safety reasons, then re-pointing is the way to do it. It beats poisoning, which may be the other deadly deed. When I was little, I was taught and encouraged by my father to respect our natural fauna and understand them as far as possible. I *love* bees, including Masonry bees. Just as well since we have soft mortar. I think Nick Maclaren means the cottage's human occupants are tenants, so they won't be prepared - or perhaps, allowed - to undertake such a course of action as re-pointing. !:~) You could be quite right, so I can see their difficulty. Nick-the-owner might be able to do so in late summer or autumn and prevent future worries and fears. Until then, I think the best idea is education as to what bees actually do. They are usually pretty docile creatures, uninterested in pursuing humans for fun! They won't sting unless seriously provoked. The children could - and should in any case - be taught to wear shoes when running round the garden and to be calm when walking through the 'bee area'. Standing in front of the bees' homes and flapping arms about etc. is asking for trouble whether they're in a wall or a hive. Well, yes, education would be the right way to go about it. I've tried no end of times trying to suggest bees are generally harmless. I usually get the "But they always sting me" type answer. I tend to give them the "Well, you always thrash your arms at them" reply, but it doesn't sink in. It also doesn't help that people apply scent, makeup and hairspray - and eat sticky foods - whilst in the great outdoors. No wonder the bees are attracted to explore what may be a food item. Very good points, especially re scent etc. I never wear it when in the nursery or garden and in any case, it's bad for the skin. A lot of perfumes contain some ingredient that reacts with sunlight to mark the skin. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-05-05 18:57:34 +0100, David Hill said:
If the cottage is owned by you as landlord then just get it properly repointed. Rod Late in the year, though. Why, by then they will be hibernating in the walls. It appears to be a question of letting the female finish laying her eggs. and timing it before hibernation starts, encouraging them to go somewhere else. Unfortunately, the re-pointing in late summer will prevent the emergence of new bees next year though. But if it's a serious problem for the owner of the building they have to persuade Mrs Bee to go elsewhere and re-pointing seems to be the only way to go about it. They go back to where they were born to lay again and can eventually cause quite a lot of damage because they keep on boring into masonry to make new holes for new generations. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-05-06 09:28:16 +0100, Martin said:
On Mon, 6 May 2013 09:21:36 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 2013-05-05 20:55:49 +0100, said: In article , Sacha wrote: It's well-known that swarming bees are much less likely to sting because their particular objective is to gather round the queen. It's their driving force at that time, so obstacles in their path are more likely to be disregarded. Yes. There was a risk, but much less than driving to an airport. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Or possibly even flying. Our last experience when the landing gear wouldn't retract & they couldn't be sure it would lock down, has made me much happier with bees. I'm sure you follow my logic! There is a far higher accident rate driving from airports. Something to do with passengers drinking alcohol to calm their nerves. Lol! On the flight I mentioned upthread, the steward offered me a cup of tea, took one look at my face & brought a large brandy. I wasn't driving home! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Bee deterrent?
On Sunday, 5 May 2013 23:35:09 UTC+1, wrote:
In article o.uk, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 05 May 2013 19:55:35 +0100, Spider wrote: Well, yes, education would be the right way to go about it. I've tried no end of times trying to suggest bees are generally harmless. I usually get the "But they always sting me" type answer. Do you then ask how many times they have *actually* been stung? More often than not the answere to that direct question is "never" or "er I think a couple of times". Their fear of being stung is not supported by the facts... Or the standard Q&A: Q. How do you know that it was a bee that stung you? A.1 Because it was yellow and black. A.2 I didn't see it, but it stung me, therefore it was a bee. Regards, Nick Maclaren. And of course if you're the local beekeeper the offending creature has a label on it with your name and address. Rod |
Bee deterrent?
In article , Sacha
writes It's well-known that swarming bees are much less likely to sting because their particular objective is to gather round the queen. It's their driving force at that time, so obstacles in their path are more likely to be disregarded. And usually, they have gorged on honey prior to leaving the hive (if managed bees) - which makes them much more laid back. -- regards andyw |
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