Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

I have an overgrown bank under trees and bushes; apart from bluebells and daffodils in season, it has nettles, ground elder, garlic mustard, goosegrass, ivy etc that I try and keep under control. I now have this thing - it's thigh-high with long red hairy stems and big leaves (about hand-sized). I'm hoping it's not ground-elder gone triffid-size. Can anyone identify it please? Thanks.

It looks like hogweed, which is not a problem. If it carries on growing till it is taller than you, it may be giant hogweed, which can cause skin rashes.

Thanks Kay. I'll leave it alone for the moment then.

Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

On 30/05/2013 19:31, Blenny wrote:

I have an overgrown bank under trees and bushes; apart from bluebells
and daffodils in season, it has nettles, ground elder, garlic mustard,
goosegrass, ivy etc that I try and keep under control. I now have this
thing - it's thigh-high with long red hairy stems and big leaves (about
hand-sized). I'm hoping it's not ground-elder gone triffid-size. Can
anyone identify it please? Thanks.


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Hogweed (Heracleum sphondylium).




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Stewart Robert Hinsley

Thanks Stewart. Looks as if it might be good for insects then.

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Hogweed (Heracleum sphondylium).




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On 30/05/13 21:35, Blenny wrote:
kay;984303 Wrote:
It looks like hogweed, which is not a problem. If it carries on growing
till it is taller than you, it may be giant hogweed, which can cause
skin rashes.

Thanks Kay. I'll leave it alone for the moment then.

If it *is* hogweed (not the giant variety) the very young shoots make a
good vegetable.

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Rusty Hinge

Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

"RustyHinge" wrote in message
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On 30/05/13 21:35, Blenny wrote:
kay;984303 Wrote:
It looks like hogweed, which is not a problem. If it carries on growing
till it is taller than you, it may be giant hogweed, which can cause
skin rashes.

Thanks Kay. I'll leave it alone for the moment then.

If it *is* hogweed (not the giant variety) the very young shoots make a
good vegetable.

--
Rusty Hinge

Ordinary hogweed also causes skin rashes if you get the sap on you then
allow sunlight to get to it.

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk

Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

On 04/06/13 08:52, Charlie Pridham wrote:

"RustyHinge" wrote in message
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On 30/05/13 21:35, Blenny wrote:
kay;984303 Wrote:
It looks like hogweed, which is not a problem. If it carries on growing
till it is taller than you, it may be giant hogweed, which can cause
skin rashes.

Thanks Kay. I'll leave it alone for the moment then.

If it *is* hogweed (not the giant variety) the very young shoots make
a good vegetable.

Ordinary hogweed also causes skin rashes if you get the sap on you then
allow sunlight to get to it.

I used to collect it by the barrowload for my host of wabbits. I don't
know how many gallons of sap I must have had flow over my hands with no
ill effect.


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Rusty Hinge

I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed with caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!

Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

On 04/06/2013 18:54, Blenny wrote:
RustyHinge;984582 Wrote:
On 04/06/13 08:52, Charlie Pridham wrote:-

"RustyHinge" wrote in message
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On 30/05/13 21:35, Blenny wrote:-
kay;984303 Wrote:
It looks like hogweed, which is not a problem. If it carries on
growing
till it is taller than you, it may be giant hogweed, which can cause
skin rashes.

Thanks Kay. I'll leave it alone for the moment then.-

If it *is* hogweed (not the giant variety) the very young shoots make
a good vegetable.-

Ordinary hogweed also causes skin rashes if you get the sap on you
then
allow sunlight to get to it.-

I used to collect it by the barrowload for my host of wabbits. I don't
know how many gallons of sap I must have had flow over my hands with no

ill effect.


--
Rusty Hinge


I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed with
caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!

You want to be 110% certain of the identity, particularly with
umbellifers, which contain some rather toxic plants.


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Stewart Robert Hinsley

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On 04/06/13 18:54, Blenny wrote:

/hogweed/
I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed with
caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!

While the shoots are curled-up rather like bracken shoots.

Those, fat hen, and other wild foods were my staple from 2006 - 2008ish.

DWP cocked-up paying me my state pension for two and a half years,so it
was live off the land, starve, or turn to crime.

Fortunately, I have amassed a useful knowledge of edible plants, fungi,
and am a good shot.

--
Rusty Hinge

Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

On 04/06/13 22:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

/hogweed/

I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed with
caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!

You want to be 110% certain of the identity, particularly with
umbellifers, which contain some rather toxic plants.

This is very true.

OTOH, many herbs and spices from the huge angelica to the small ground
elder have been used since the dawn of time.

--
Rusty Hinge

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In article ,
says...

On 04/06/13 22:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

/hogweed/

I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed with
caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!

You want to be 110% certain of the identity, particularly with
umbellifers, which contain some rather toxic plants.

This is very true.

OTOH, many herbs and spices from the huge angelica to the small ground
elder have been used since the dawn of time.

Some of them, like hemlock, were used for killing people.

Janet

Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

On 05/06/2013 00:06, RustyHinge wrote:
On 04/06/13 22:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

/hogweed/

I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed with
caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!

You want to be 110% certain of the identity, particularly with
umbellifers, which contain some rather toxic plants.

This is very true.

OTOH, many herbs and spices from the huge angelica to the small ground
elder have been used since the dawn of time.

Including Hemlock

What a lot of interesting info, thanks everyone! I don't plan to do anything until the plants produce some flowers, which they show no sign of at the moment.

Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

On 05/06/13 08:50, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 04/06/13 22:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

/hogweed/

I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed with
caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!

You want to be 110% certain of the identity, particularly with
umbellifers, which contain some rather toxic plants.

This is very true.

OTOH, many herbs and spices from the huge angelica to the small ground
elder have been used since the dawn of time.

Some of them, like hemlock, were used for killing people.

Wasn't that juiceof the tree?

--
Rusty Hinge

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On 05/06/13 12:26, Blenny wrote:

Janet;984630 Wrote:
In article ,
says...-

On 04/06/13 22:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

/hogweed/
--
I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed
with
caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!-

You want to be 110% certain of the identity, particularly with
umbellifers, which contain some rather toxic plants.-

This is very true.

OTOH, many herbs and spices from the huge angelica to the small ground

elder have been used since the dawn of time.-

Some of them, like hemlock, were used for killing people.

Janet

What a lot of interesting info, thanks everyone! I don't plan to do
anything until the plants produce some flowers, which they show no sign
of at the moment.

Well, you'll need to wait until next spring for the young shoots.But the
wait will be worth it.

Find some fat hen or other goosefoot - treated like spinach, they taste
like a cross between spinach and asparagus.

--
Rusty Hinge

Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

In article ,
says...

On 05/06/13 08:50, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 04/06/13 22:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

/hogweed/

I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed with
caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!

You want to be 110% certain of the identity, particularly with
umbellifers, which contain some rather toxic plants.

This is very true.

OTOH, many herbs and spices from the huge angelica to the small ground
elder have been used since the dawn of time.

Some of them, like hemlock, were used for killing people.

Wasn't that juiceof the tree?

No.

Janet

Please tell me this isn't giant ground elder
 

On 06/06/2013 13:38, RustyHinge wrote:
On 05/06/13 08:50, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 04/06/13 22:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

/hogweed/

I've handled the leaves without ill effect - but think I'll proceed
with
caution. Cooking it sounds tempting though!

You want to be 110% certain of the identity, particularly with
umbellifers, which contain some rather toxic plants.

This is very true.

OTOH, many herbs and spices from the huge angelica to the small ground
elder have been used since the dawn of time.

Some of them, like hemlock, were used for killing people.

Wasn't that juiceof the tree?

"Tsuga (/ˈsuË�É¡É™/, from Japanese: æ*‚ (ツガ), the name of Tsuga sieboldii)
is a genus of conifers in the pine family Pinaceae. The common name
hemlock is derived from a perceived similarity in the smell of its
crushed foliage to that of the unrelated plant poison hemlock. Unlike
the latter, Tsuga species are not poisonous.

There are eight, nine, or ten species within the genus (depending on the
authority), with four species occurring in North America and four to six
in eastern Asia."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuga

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Stewart Robert Hinsley