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Sacha[_10_] 18-06-2013 02:33 PM

Bud drop on Holboellia
 
We've had a letter from a frequent visitor to the nursery who lives in
Wisbech. She says that some years ago they bought a Holboellia and that
it's a vigorous and healthy plant. She couldn't remember the name but
thought it was a jasmine and wrote to us asking for the ID. As a PS,
she said that it forms buds beautifully but then they fall off. She
thinks it's because of the cold but as it forms buds and the plant
itself is unscathed, we suspect it's because it's too dry. But we
wondered if anyone else in that area has experience of this problem
with a Holboellia?

I suppose it could be a late frost that's hitting it but again, the
leaves appear not to be touched at all. We've suggested that she gives
it a good drink in dry spells and particularly if it's in the rain
shadow of the house. If anyone else living 'up there' has any
experience of this, we'd love to hear about it.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


[email protected] 18-06-2013 02:53 PM

Bud drop on Holboellia
 
In article ,
Sacha wrote:

We've had a letter from a frequent visitor to the nursery who lives in
Wisbech. She says that some years ago they bought a Holboellia and that
it's a vigorous and healthy plant. She couldn't remember the name but
thought it was a jasmine and wrote to us asking for the ID. As a PS,
she said that it forms buds beautifully but then they fall off. She
thinks it's because of the cold but as it forms buds and the plant
itself is unscathed, we suspect it's because it's too dry. But we
wondered if anyone else in that area has experience of this problem
with a Holboellia?

I suppose it could be a late frost that's hitting it but again, the
leaves appear not to be touched at all. We've suggested that she gives
it a good drink in dry spells and particularly if it's in the rain
shadow of the house. If anyone else living 'up there' has any
experience of this, we'd love to hear about it.


Yes, definitely. I gave up on it after a few years of that. Like
many plants, its buds are a lot more sensitive than its leaves.
Indeed, its mature leaves are extremely hardy, and only the very
young ones even approach the buds in tenderness.

And it was definitely the frost that did it in some years, but it
could have been just being too cold for too long in others. The
plant could have been dry immediately under its stem, but there
was plenty of water where its roots will have got to.

I haven't yet been able to actually KILL it, of course :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha[_10_] 18-06-2013 06:48 PM

Bud drop on Holboellia
 
On 2013-06-18 14:53:54 +0100, said:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

We've had a letter from a frequent visitor to the nursery who lives in
Wisbech. She says that some years ago they bought a Holboellia and that
it's a vigorous and healthy plant. She couldn't remember the name but
thought it was a jasmine and wrote to us asking for the ID. As a PS,
she said that it forms buds beautifully but then they fall off. She
thinks it's because of the cold but as it forms buds and the plant
itself is unscathed, we suspect it's because it's too dry. But we
wondered if anyone else in that area has experience of this problem
with a Holboellia?

I suppose it could be a late frost that's hitting it but again, the
leaves appear not to be touched at all. We've suggested that she gives
it a good drink in dry spells and particularly if it's in the rain
shadow of the house. If anyone else living 'up there' has any
experience of this, we'd love to hear about it.


Yes, definitely. I gave up on it after a few years of that. Like
many plants, its buds are a lot more sensitive than its leaves.
Indeed, its mature leaves are extremely hardy, and only the very
young ones even approach the buds in tenderness.

And it was definitely the frost that did it in some years, but it
could have been just being too cold for too long in others. The
plant could have been dry immediately under its stem, but there
was plenty of water where its roots will have got to.

I haven't yet been able to actually KILL it, of course :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Thanks, Nick. I'll pass all this on to her.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Charlie Pridham[_2_] 19-06-2013 05:10 PM

Bud drop on Holboellia
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
We've had a letter from a frequent visitor to the nursery who lives in
Wisbech. She says that some years ago they bought a Holboellia and that
it's a vigorous and healthy plant. She couldn't remember the name but
thought it was a jasmine and wrote to us asking for the ID. As a PS, she
said that it forms buds beautifully but then they fall off. She thinks
it's because of the cold but as it forms buds and the plant itself is
unscathed, we suspect it's because it's too dry. But we wondered if
anyone else in that area has experience of this problem with a Holboellia?

I suppose it could be a late frost that's hitting it but again, the leaves
appear not to be touched at all. We've suggested that she gives it a good
drink in dry spells and particularly if it's in the rain shadow of the
house. If anyone else living 'up there' has any experience of this, we'd
love to hear about it.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


If frosted the buds turn black before dropping off, its usually very drought
tolerant so I would be surprised if it was that, cold damage sounds more
likely, its better when we have very cold winters as it holds flowering
back, mild years like this year it flowers early and I lost a lot of flower
buds in March frosts, happily this year the plants have tried again and I
have a lot of flower at the moment.

PS I normally find the female flowers are weeks later than the males, which
has always struck me as odd

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
www.helpforheroes.org.uk



Sacha[_10_] 19-06-2013 06:06 PM

Bud drop on Holboellia
 
On 2013-06-19 17:10:03 +0100, Charlie Pridham said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
We've had a letter from a frequent visitor to the nursery who lives in
Wisbech. She says that some years ago they bought a Holboellia and that
it's a vigorous and healthy plant. She couldn't remember the name but
thought it was a jasmine and wrote to us asking for the ID. As a PS,
she said that it forms buds beautifully but then they fall off. She
thinks it's because of the cold but as it forms buds and the plant
itself is unscathed, we suspect it's because it's too dry. But we
wondered if anyone else in that area has experience of this problem
with a Holboellia?

I suppose it could be a late frost that's hitting it but again, the
leaves appear not to be touched at all. We've suggested that she gives
it a good drink in dry spells and particularly if it's in the rain
shadow of the house. If anyone else living 'up there' has any
experience of this, we'd love to hear about it.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


If frosted the buds turn black before dropping off, its usually very
drought tolerant so I would be surprised if it was that, cold damage
sounds more likely, its better when we have very cold winters as it
holds flowering back, mild years like this year it flowers early and I
lost a lot of flower buds in March frosts, happily this year the plants
have tried again and I have a lot of flower at the moment.

PS I normally find the female flowers are weeks later than the males,
which has always struck me as odd


She sent us a few leaves and some buds and neither was black at all.
She's going to make sure it's not drying out and will probably cover it
with fleece in the winter. But if they usually turn black, it isn't
frost, though it could be cold.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk



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