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Bob H 20-06-2013 08:09 PM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
I want to level my cobbly feeling lawn. It feels like walking on cobble
stones.

I am looking for someone who can deliver a ton or ton and half of
topsoil to my home in Leeds.

I found a place about 8 miles away who would deliver 1 ton for £65, and
I don't know if that is a reasonable price or not.

Does anyone know of anyone more locally who would/can deliver what I want.

David Hill 20-06-2013 08:12 PM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On 20/06/2013 20:09, Bob H wrote:
I want to level my cobbly feeling lawn. It feels like walking on cobble
stones.

I am looking for someone who can deliver a ton or ton and half of
topsoil to my home in Leeds.

I found a place about 8 miles away who would deliver 1 ton for £65, and
I don't know if that is a reasonable price or not.

Does anyone know of anyone more locally who would/can deliver what I want.


A ton of what?
is it "as dug" or is it sieved and weed free?

Jake 20-06-2013 08:52 PM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:09:14 +0100, Bob H wrote:

I want to level my cobbly feeling lawn. It feels like walking on cobble
stones.

I am looking for someone who can deliver a ton or ton and half of
topsoil to my home in Leeds.

I found a place about 8 miles away who would deliver 1 ton for £65, and
I don't know if that is a reasonable price or not.

Does anyone know of anyone more locally who would/can deliver what I want.


As Dave indicates, there's soil and there's soil.

But I'm more concerned about what you plan to do. How big is your lawn
to start with?

If it's just uneven, ok-ish but if the "walking on cobbles" is because
the ground surface is stoney, tipping soil on the top is going to be a
waste of time unless you want to raise the lawn level by about 6
inches. You will simply end up with dead grass over any stones.

Then having covered the existing lawn, what do you intend to do? If
you smother the grass with soil, then you need to grow new grass. It's
a bit late now to seed unless you are happy to accept the need to
water all the time. Turfing will be expensive.

And simply tipping soil is not the best solution. When I've levelled
in the past, I've used a mix of soil, sand and loam.

Overall, I think you're tackling a problem from the wrong angle.

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unusually just like Dave's end, only better :)

Martin Brown 21-06-2013 08:36 AM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On 20/06/2013 20:09, Bob H wrote:
I want to level my cobbly feeling lawn. It feels like walking on cobble
stones.


Is this because the ground is baked hard clay or very stoney?

I am looking for someone who can deliver a ton or ton and half of
topsoil to my home in Leeds.

I found a place about 8 miles away who would deliver 1 ton for £65, and
I don't know if that is a reasonable price or not.

Does anyone know of anyone more locally who would/can deliver what I want.


You probably want the wrong thing! A sand/peat/topsoil mixture applied
in the autumn is the traditional top dressing method to smooth out lawn
irregularities in combination with a traditional roller.

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Regards,
Martin Brown

[email protected] 22-06-2013 12:15 AM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:09:14 PM UTC+1, Bob H wrote:

I want to level my cobbly feeling lawn. It feels like walking on cobble
stones.
I am looking for someone who can deliver a ton or ton and half of
topsoil to my home in Leeds.
I found a place about 8 miles away who would deliver 1 ton for £65, and
I don't know if that is a reasonable price or not.
Does anyone know of anyone more locally who would/can deliver what I want..


A roller would be much better imho.

I wouldnt pay £65 for a tonne of subsoil.


NT

David Hill 22-06-2013 09:52 AM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On 22/06/2013 00:15, wrote:
On Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:09:14 PM UTC+1, Bob H wrote:

I want to level my cobbly feeling lawn. It feels like walking on cobble
stones.
I am looking for someone who can deliver a ton or ton and half of
topsoil to my home in Leeds.
I found a place about 8 miles away who would deliver 1 ton for £65, and
I don't know if that is a reasonable price or not.
Does anyone know of anyone more locally who would/can deliver what I want.


A roller would be much better imho.

I wouldnt pay £65 for a tonne of subsoil.


NT

Who said anything about subsoil?
Using a roller to try to level a lawn is the worst thing you can do if
there is any amount of irregularity in the surface level.
Everything you learn about turf care says "Don't compact"

Janet 22-06-2013 01:39 PM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
In article ,
says...

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:09:14 PM UTC+1, Bob H wrote:

I want to level my cobbly feeling lawn. It feels like walking on cobble
stones.
I am looking for someone who can deliver a ton or ton and half of
topsoil to my home in Leeds.
I found a place about 8 miles away who would deliver 1 ton for £65, and
I don't know if that is a reasonable price or not.
Does anyone know of anyone more locally who would/can deliver what I want.


A roller would be much better imho.

I wouldnt pay £65 for a tonne of subsoil.


He said topsoil, which is not subsoil.

We recently bought 3 tons of good clean topsoil for a total of £92.40
including VAT and delivery (loose, in a tipper) Just phoned a local
"groundworks" company and asked, they told me where they had a supply
parked on a development site a few miles away and invited me to go and
have a look to see if it was suitable. It was clean rural loam with few
stones.

Try local builders (yellow pages) or take a look round for someone
doing work; they have to pay to dispose of unwanted soil so may be
pleased to help.

It's useful to provide a measurement of your access so the supplier
knows what size of truck he can bring.

Janet





Janet

Rod[_5_] 22-06-2013 06:53 PM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On Saturday, June 22, 2013 9:52:11 AM UTC+1, Dave Hill wrote:

Using a roller to try to level a lawn is the worst thing you can do if

there is any amount of irregularity in the surface level.

Everything you learn about turf care says "Don't compact"


Yes, I thought the idea of rolling lawns was discredited years ago. Certainly the last time I rolled a lawn must have been over 40 years ago - it didn't do any good then, it won't now.
It's a lazy attempt at a quick cheap solution to a bumpy lawn. For quick and cheap on not particularly good lawns I have filled obvious low patches with soil and sown seed but remember the seeded patch will have different grasses from the rest and will always look a bit different, but I am talking here of lawns that are mediocre or worse anyway. For better lawns then gradually improving the levels by top-dressing as already advised or lifting turf from low patches, bringing up the level and then re-laying the turf is the way to go.

Rod

David Hill 22-06-2013 07:05 PM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On 22/06/2013 18:53, Rod wrote:
On Saturday, June 22, 2013 9:52:11 AM UTC+1, Dave Hill wrote:

Using a roller to try to level a lawn is the worst thing you can do if

there is any amount of irregularity in the surface level.

Everything you learn about turf care says "Don't compact"


Yes, I thought the idea of rolling lawns was discredited years ago. Certainly the last time I rolled a lawn must have been over 40 years ago - it didn't do any good then, it won't now.
It's a lazy attempt at a quick cheap solution to a bumpy lawn. For quick and cheap on not particularly good lawns I have filled obvious low patches with soil and sown seed but remember the seeded patch will have different grasses from the rest and will always look a bit different, but I am talking here of lawns that are mediocre or worse anyway. For better lawns then gradually improving the levels by top-dressing as already advised or lifting turf from low patches, bringing up the level and then re-laying the turf is the way to go.

Rod

What you should do is to put an X cut the turf in the hollows, then
fold back add soil to bring up the level then put the turf back, a slow
method but you do keep all the grass the same, and you do the reverse
for any high points.

RustyHinge 22-06-2013 09:01 PM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On 22/06/13 18:53, Rod wrote:
On Saturday, June 22, 2013 9:52:11 AM UTC+1, Dave Hill wrote:

Using a roller to try to level a lawn is the worst thing you can do if

there is any amount of irregularity in the surface level.

Everything you learn about turf care says "Don't compact"


Yes, I thought the idea of rolling lawns was discredited years ago. Certainly the last time I rolled a lawn must have been over 40 years ago - it didn't do any good then, it won't now.
It's a lazy attempt at a quick cheap solution to a bumpy lawn. For quick and cheap on not particularly good lawns I have filled obvious low patches with soil and sown seed but remember the seeded patch will have different grasses from the rest and will always look a bit different, but I am talking here of lawns that are mediocre or worse anyway. For better lawns then gradually improving the levels by top-dressing as already advised or lifting turf from low patches, bringing up the level and then re-laying the turf is the way to go.


I've rolled a lot of lawn not so long ago - heavy ground, infested with
pure-bred Arab horses...

--
Rusty Hinge

[email protected] 24-06-2013 11:05 AM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On Saturday, June 22, 2013 9:52:11 AM UTC+1, Dave Hill wrote:
On 22/06/2013 00:15, wrote:
On Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:09:14 PM UTC+1, Bob H wrote:



Who said anything about subsoil?


my bad

Using a roller to try to level a lawn is the worst thing you can do if
there is any amount of irregularity in the surface level.
Everything you learn about turf care says "Don't compact"


It was a long time ago. It did flatten numerous dings though. Rollers can be home made fairly easily.

A similarly long time ago I levelled a lumpy meadow with a mower. I just used the spinning metal blade to rip into the high points. A bit crude but it worked. You don't need to sow anything afterwards, nearby grass takes over as long as the bare bits are mowed.

Of course there are other options, but the above does work.


NT

David.WE.Roberts 24-06-2013 04:42 PM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:09:14 +0100, Bob H wrote:

I want to level my cobbly feeling lawn. It feels like walking on cobble
stones.

I am looking for someone who can deliver a ton or ton and half of
topsoil to my home in Leeds.

I found a place about 8 miles away who would deliver 1 ton for £65, and
I don't know if that is a reasonable price or not.

Does anyone know of anyone more locally who would/can deliver what I
want.


Just to not that according to my news reader this is the only post by the
OP and we have seen no response.

So our united wisdom may be failing to aid the poser of the original
question.

Cheers

Dave R

Stephen Wolstenholme[_3_] 24-06-2013 04:58 PM

Level a lawn with topsoil
 
On 24 Jun 2013 15:42:21 GMT, "David.WE.Roberts"
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:09:14 +0100, Bob H wrote:

I want to level my cobbly feeling lawn. It feels like walking on cobble
stones.

I am looking for someone who can deliver a ton or ton and half of
topsoil to my home in Leeds.

I found a place about 8 miles away who would deliver 1 ton for £65, and
I don't know if that is a reasonable price or not.

Does anyone know of anyone more locally who would/can deliver what I
want.


Just to not that according to my news reader this is the only post by the
OP and we have seen no response.

So our united wisdom may be failing to aid the poser of the original
question.

Cheers

Dave R


There are lots of responses. I can't comment on there content.

Steve

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