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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:31:00 +0100, David Hill
wrote: Some may find this of interest http://www.reckless-gardener.co.uk/g...-in-new-scheme Unfortunately Wales is rather thin on places to deposit old pots. When I last checked, neither of the Cardiff or Swansea Garden Centre Group places were participating. -- Cheers, Jake ======================================= Wilting just a little at the east end of Swansea Bay. |
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David Hill wrote in
: Some may find this of interest http://www.reckless-gardener.co.uk/g...ycle-your-old- plastic-plant-pots-in-new-scheme Our local council supplied us with recycle bins for plastic some years ago. They are identical to the general refuse bins but half the size. In our area, the garden centres have their plastic removed from them in the same way, on a much larger scale. Skips I think. They might even sell it to the council, who knows. Baz |
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On 08/08/2013 13:38, Janet wrote:
Over decades I've been given hundreds of used/unwanted plastic pots by nurseries who would otherwise chuck them and pay business rates for rubbish disposal. I sort and store them in recycled fish boxes by the potting tabl. Any I don't want/need I recycle to the local garden club, or even jumble sales. A stack of clean, same size stacked pots always finds a new home. On an almost related note - our council is generally very good on recycling collections. However, the only thing that puzzles me is that it refuses to take any black plastic for recycling. Even down to not taking a whole bag of plastic because it has a single black piece visible in it. Does anyone know why they would be allergic to black plastic? (A lot of my plastic plantpots are black, if anyone's looking for the (almost) on topic link). -- regards andy |
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"News" wrote On an almost related note - our council is generally very good on recycling collections. However, the only thing that puzzles me is that it refuses to take any black plastic for recycling. Even down to not taking a whole bag of plastic because it has a single black piece visible in it. Does anyone know why they would be allergic to black plastic? (A lot of my plastic plantpots are black, if anyone's looking for the (almost) on topic link). My local council won't take plant pots of any colour. The only plastic they do allow in our recycling bin is bottles of various sorts, e.g. milk, detergents, shampoo or soft drinks, but no veg or fruit punnets, yoghurt pots or margarine tubs or hard plastics. It annoyed me to have to put so much potentially recyclable stuff into landfill that I did once email them to complain and ask why, as I'm perfectly willing to make sure plastic grocery containers etc go in the right bin, as most people would be. They claimed the company they sell the material to can't find an economic use for anything other than bottles. This mystified me as it seems many other containers are made from the same plastics as some of the bottles they do allow, if the recycling triangle logos & codes are anything to go by. Not only that but some other authorities *do* take other plastics. Why there can't be ONE national system for goodness sake, beats me - then we'd all know where we are. -- Sue |
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On Friday 09 August 2013 13:57 Indigo wrote in uk.rec.gardening:
"News" wrote On an almost related note - our council is generally very good on recycling collections. However, the only thing that puzzles me is that it refuses to take any black plastic for recycling. Even down to not taking a whole bag of plastic because it has a single black piece visible in it. Does anyone know why they would be allergic to black plastic? (A lot of my plastic plantpots are black, if anyone's looking for the (almost) on topic link). My local council won't take plant pots of any colour. The only plastic they do allow in our recycling bin is bottles of various sorts, e.g. milk, detergents, shampoo or soft drinks, but no veg or fruit punnets, yoghurt pots or margarine tubs or hard plastics. It annoyed me to have to put so much potentially recyclable stuff into landfill that I did once email them to complain and ask why, as I'm perfectly willing to make sure plastic grocery containers etc go in the right bin, as most people would be. They claimed the company they sell the material to can't find an economic use for anything other than bottles. This mystified me as it seems many other containers are made from the same plastics as some of the bottles they do allow, if the recycling triangle logos & codes are anything to go by. Not only that but some other authorities *do* take other plastics. Why there can't be ONE national system for goodness sake, beats me - then we'd all know where we are. Ours is Types 1,2 and 3 as printed on the bottom in the little recycling triangle... -- Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://squiddy.blog.dionic.net/ http://www.sensorly.com/ Crowd mapping of 2G/3G/4G mobile signal coverage |
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On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 13:57:00 +0100, "Indigo"
wrote: Why there can't be ONE national system for goodness sake, beats me - then we'd all know where we are. It's called "the free market". Refuse services here are outsourced. The same contractor handles the kerbside collections and operates the local "amenity sites" formerly known as tips. And there are a fair few oddities: * Flower pots can be recycled at the tip as "hard plastics" but are kerbside landfill fodder. Strangely, those hard blue plastic bottles that Lidl bleach comes in are kerbside recyclable as plastic even though they are far harder than your average flower pot. * At kerbside we have one container for cans, plastic bottles, punnets (not black). I can put those mini greenhouses that plug plants come in into that container as well. At the tip, cans have to go in the scrap metal skip and mini greenhouses into the landfill one along with plastic bottles and punnets (including black). * Kerbside shredded paper goes in the paper container. At the tip it's landfill. * Cut flowers removed from vases are kerbside landfill but any other plant material is banned unless you "rent" special bags; even in those special bags, they check that roots of any lifted plants have been cleaned of soil. At the tip soil (like cut flowers) is green waste. Odd as I have more than once seen lorries disgorging the contents of their green waste collection containers into the green waste system at the tip. But I wonder can those more intelligent than I interpret "Please squash plastic bottles before retightening the lid so they take up less space. Please remove all bottle tops before placing in the recycling bag." -- Cheers, Jake ======================================= Wilting just a little at the east end of Swansea Bay. |
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But I wonder can those more intelligent than I interpret "Please squash plastic bottles before retightening the lid so they take up less space. Please remove all bottle tops before placing in the recycling bag." I remove all bottle caps, and then just tread on the plastic bottles. top and bottom and they stay flat. they don't spring back into shape. Same with cans of all kinds, I tread them flat. David @ a now overcast Swansea Bay |
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I saw a Portuguese public information film (they have 5 mins on "saving the planet" on the morning TV news show) showing chimps sorting rubbish into recycling bins, with the message "if these chimps can learn to do it in 3 mins, why can't *you* do it?" ... .... and I started thinking of the UK equivalent "If you're in Leeds, this goes in the Green bin, in Birmingham it goes in the brown bin, in Newcastle it goes in the blue bin, and in Middlesbrough it goes in the pink box ..." |
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On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 20:09:41 +0100, David Hill
wrote: But I wonder can those more intelligent than I interpret "Please squash plastic bottles before retightening the lid so they take up less space. Please remove all bottle tops before placing in the recycling bag." I remove all bottle caps, and then just tread on the plastic bottles. top and bottom and they stay flat. they don't spring back into shape. Same with cans of all kinds, I tread them flat. David @ a now overcast Swansea Bay Sort of ditto save that those 2-litre pop bottles and Cravendale milk things bounce back after a day. When I asked, it was suggested that I soak a bottle in boiling water before stamping on it. I didn't calculate the carbon footprint of boiling a kettle, merely the electricity cost to me (and it would take more than a kettleful to properly soak a single bottle, let alone the 4 or so we get through each week). TBH, recycling 30 years ago, before recycling was invented, was a darn sight easier than it is today. And before someone suggests reusing these things, I grow my plants in a mix of 30+ year old 3" pots and 10+ year old "professional" cell trays (way better than the plantpack stuff in garden centres). Any larger pots needed come from my ex-plant-purchase collection. I have several 2-litre bottles in service for various purposes with pump type spray things on the tops. The last anything I bought for sowing seeds in was about 15 years ago. OK? -- Cheers, Jake ======================================= Wilting just a little at the east end of Swansea Bay. |
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On 2013-08-09 20:09:41 +0100, David Hill said:
But I wonder can those more intelligent than I interpret "Please squash plastic bottles before retightening the lid so they take up less space. Please remove all bottle tops before placing in the recycling bag." I remove all bottle caps, and then just tread on the plastic bottles. top and bottom and they stay flat. they don't spring back into shape. Same with cans of all kinds, I tread them flat. David @ a now overcast Swansea Bay Our council makes a specific request that we remove plastic bottle tops as they fly like bullets from bottles going through whatever bottles go through! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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kay wrote in news:kay.c7afb07
@gardenbanter.co.uk: 'Tim Watts[_2_ Wrote: ;989451'] Ours is Types 1,2 and 3 as printed on the bottom in the little recycling triangle... Ours is 1, 2 4 ... I saw a Portuguese public information film (they have 5 mins on "saving the planet" on the morning TV news show) showing chimps sorting rubbish into recycling bins, with the message "if these chimps can learn to do it in 3 mins, why can't *you* do it?" ... ... and I started thinking of the UK equivalent "If you're in Leeds, this goes in the Green bin, in Birmingham it goes in the brown bin, in Newcastle it goes in the blue bin, and in Middlesbrough it goes in the pink box ..." In this house there is only one thing that goes in the pink box. Baz |
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Jake wrote in
: But I wonder can those more intelligent than I interpret "Please squash plastic bottles before retightening the lid so they take up less space. Please remove all bottle tops before placing in the recycling bag." I don't think they thought that through. Or they did and got a bit confused! Baz |
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"Jake" wrote On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 13:57:00 +0100, "Indigo" wrote: Why there can't be ONE national system for goodness sake, beats me - then we'd all know where we are. It's called "the free market". [...] Seems to be more like a free-for-all market, and a right royal nationwide muddle into the bargain. grumble But I wonder can those more intelligent than I interpret "Please squash plastic bottles before retightening the lid so they take up less space. Please remove all bottle tops before placing in the recycling bag." Er... Put the right lid in, The right lid out, In-out, in-out Shake it all about. Stick it in the bag and then you turn around, And that's what it's all about. -- Sue |
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On 10/08/2013 10:42, Indigo wrote:
"Jake" wrote On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 13:57:00 +0100, "Indigo" wrote: Why there can't be ONE national system for goodness sake, beats me - then we'd all know where we are. It's called "the free market". [...] Seems to be more like a free-for-all market, and a right royal nationwide muddle into the bargain. grumble But I wonder can those more intelligent than I interpret "Please squash plastic bottles before retightening the lid so they take up less space. Please remove all bottle tops before placing in the recycling bag." Er... Put the right lid in, The right lid out, In-out, in-out Shake it all about. Stick it in the bag and then you turn around, And that's what it's all about. But I don't drink Hokey Cokey |
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On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 13:57:00 +0100, "Indigo"
wrote: My local council won't take plant pots of any colour. The only plastic they do allow in our recycling bin is bottles of various sorts, e.g. milk, detergents, shampoo or soft drinks, but no veg or fruit punnets, yoghurt pots or margarine tubs or hard plastics. Same here. From my council's website - In black bin: Plastic packaging Polystyrene Plastic carrier bags Yoghurt pots Butter and margarine tubs Plastic meat or vegetable trays and punnets Tupperware or other storage containers In brown bin: Glass bottles Glass jars Food tins Drinks cans Empty aerosols Plastic bottles Aluminium foil and foil trays It is despicable how little plastic they will take for recycling. |
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News wrote:
On an almost related note - our council is generally very good on recycling collections. However, the only thing that puzzles me is that it refuses to take any black plastic for recycling. Even down to not taking a whole bag of plastic because it has a single black piece visible in it. That's odd. Our council takes any 1 and 2 plastics, I've never heard any restrictions on colour or anything. |
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Chris Hogg wrote:
Same here. Our council (actually, their recycling contractors) will only take bottles, even though quite a lot of other things are made of the same plastics and identified as such (codes 1 & 2). I can only think that they find most people can't/don't read the codes or can't be bothered or don't understand, so just lump all plastics together, which gives the recycler problems in having to separate the different types. Codes here, if anyone's interested: http://www.recycle-more.co.uk/images...c_symbols.pdf? For some reason, filled pasta (regardless of brand) never seems to have the number marked on it. It will be either 1 or 5, but since I can recle one of those and not the other, I have* to put it in the landfill bin |
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"Victoria Conlan" wrote in message ... News wrote: On an almost related note - our council is generally very good on recycling collections. However, the only thing that puzzles me is that it refuses to take any black plastic for recycling. Even down to not taking a whole bag of plastic because it has a single black piece visible in it. That's odd. Our council takes any 1 and 2 plastics, I've never heard any restrictions on colour or anything. I have a grey lidded bin for non recyclable rubbish, which includes glass. I have a blue lidded bin for recycling which takes all plastic except film and all paper. I have a brown bin which takes all garden waste where the stem is less the 3 cm wide, and all kitchen waste including cooked and bones. Done on a fortnight rotation, So on the recycling week we get two bin lorries. -- Kathy |
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"Judith in England" wrote Same here. From my council's website - In black bin: Plastic packaging Polystyrene Plastic carrier bags Yoghurt pots Butter and margarine tubs Plastic meat or vegetable trays and punnets Tupperware or other storage containers In brown bin: Glass bottles Glass jars Food tins Drinks cans Empty aerosols Plastic bottles Aluminium foil and foil trays It is despicable how little plastic they will take for recycling. I agree. The colour coding for bins seem to vary quite a bit. Must be confusing if you move to another area. Our black bin is for recycling stuff except glass, which we have to take to a bottle bank. Brown is for green garden waste and we have a green bin for the rest that has to go to landfill. Wrong way round if you ask me but the local council started with the green one when we first had wheelie bins for general waste, some time before they started taking recycling, so I expect they couldn't change it without causing mass panic and a rush of indignant letters to the paper. :) -- Sue |
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:13:23 +0200, kay
wrote: It is despicable how little plastic they will take for recycling. You're rather lucky you can put glass bottles in the brown bin. We have to take ours to the bottle bank ourselves. Some things they decide make no sense. There is a church nearby who have their collection on Monday, and everyone else on the street has it on Tuesday. |
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