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sacha 08-08-2013 07:29 PM

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I've just been down to the big greenhouse and picked about 30 tomatoes.
What a joy to be able to do this and the smell of a ripe tomato is
fabulous.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


Derek Turner 08-08-2013 08:45 PM

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On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:29:38 +0100, sacha wrote:

I've just been down to the big greenhouse and picked about 30 tomatoes.
What a joy to be able to do this and the smell of a ripe tomato is
fabulous.


I've eaten the first two of my Sunrises growing outdoors in a grobag(tm).

sacha 08-08-2013 10:13 PM

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On 2013-08-08 20:45:35 +0100, Derek Turner said:

On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:29:38 +0100, sacha wrote:

I've just been down to the big greenhouse and picked about 30 tomatoes.
What a joy to be able to do this and the smell of a ripe tomato is
fabulous.


I've eaten the first two of my Sunrises growing outdoors in a grobag(tm).


Ours are Jersey Sunrise, too but grown indoors, so we're cheating!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Bob Hobden 08-08-2013 10:58 PM

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"sacha" wrote

I've just been down to the big greenhouse and picked about 30 tomatoes.
What a joy to be able to do this and the smell of a ripe tomato is
fabulous.

We picked the first from our hanging basket "Tumblers" over a week ago, and
now, quite quickly, have built up a worrying stock of them in the fridge.

I now understand why they are called tumblers because one nearly did onto
the ground when it broke it's stem. Luckily I saw it whilst it still had a
small bit of bark/skin attached and staked it so it couldn't fall and break
completely. Having cut off all the large leaves to reduce transpiration it's
now ripening it's little tomatoes quickly.

The ones out on the allotment are also beginning to produce ripe toms.
Lesotto, a blight resistant bush tomato which produces small fruit, has also
started to produce ripe fruit in the last week but they have soft skins and
split very easily. The larger fruited ones, Ferline, Fantasio and Black
Russian have fruit that is certainly beginning to change colour but will
take probably another week to start yielding ripe fruit.

I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the neighbours than
I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK


David Hill 08-08-2013 11:03 PM

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On 08/08/2013 22:58, Bob Hobden wrote:
"sacha" wrote

I've just been down to the big greenhouse and picked about 30
tomatoes. What a joy to be able to do this and the smell of a ripe
tomato is fabulous.

We picked the first from our hanging basket "Tumblers" over a week ago,
and now, quite quickly, have built up a worrying stock of them in the
fridge.

I now understand why they are called tumblers because one nearly did
onto the ground when it broke it's stem. Luckily I saw it whilst it
still had a small bit of bark/skin attached and staked it so it couldn't
fall and break completely. Having cut off all the large leaves to reduce
transpiration it's now ripening it's little tomatoes quickly.

The ones out on the allotment are also beginning to produce ripe toms.
Lesotto, a blight resistant bush tomato which produces small fruit, has
also started to produce ripe fruit in the last week but they have soft
skins and split very easily. The larger fruited ones, Ferline, Fantasio
and Black Russian have fruit that is certainly beginning to change
colour but will take probably another week to start yielding ripe fruit.

I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the neighbours
than I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)

Have you ever frozen them?
I used to just drop them into a chest freezer, then use them later
instead of tinned tomatoes.

Peter & Jeanne 09-08-2013 07:43 AM

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"David Hill" wrote in message ...
Have you ever frozen them?
I used to just drop them into a chest freezer, then use them later instead
of tinned tomatoes.


I cut them in half - then initially freeze individually in egg boxes. Then
bag and sore in the chest freezer
until there are enough for a souping session- which also ends up in the
freezer in flora tubs.

Pete


Bob Hobden 09-08-2013 07:51 AM

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"David Hill" wrote

Bob Hobden wrote: ((SNIP))
I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the neighbours
than I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)


Have you ever frozen them?
I used to just drop them into a chest freezer, then use them later instead
of tinned tomatoes.


Not whole no. We usually make them into Pasatta and freeze in bags that can
then be used to make soup or in various, mainly pasta, dishes.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK


News[_2_] 09-08-2013 10:31 AM

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On 09/08/2013 07:51, Bob Hobden wrote:

Not whole no. We usually make them into Pasatta and freeze in bags that
can then be used to make soup or in various, mainly pasta, dishes.


I freeze them whole in bags. Then when I want to make some sauce, get
them out, drop them into hot water for a minute - then the skins peel
off so easily. (Essential for a good tomato sauce, if you ask me).

--
regards
andy

Baz[_3_] 09-08-2013 04:19 PM

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David Hill wrote in news:b6iit9Fbg5oU2
@mid.individual.net:

On 08/08/2013 22:58, Bob Hobden wrote:
"sacha" wrote

I've just been down to the big greenhouse and picked about 30
tomatoes. What a joy to be able to do this and the smell of a ripe
tomato is fabulous.

We picked the first from our hanging basket "Tumblers" over a week ago,
and now, quite quickly, have built up a worrying stock of them in the
fridge.

I now understand why they are called tumblers because one nearly did
onto the ground when it broke it's stem. Luckily I saw it whilst it
still had a small bit of bark/skin attached and staked it so it couldn't
fall and break completely. Having cut off all the large leaves to reduce
transpiration it's now ripening it's little tomatoes quickly.

The ones out on the allotment are also beginning to produce ripe toms.
Lesotto, a blight resistant bush tomato which produces small fruit, has
also started to produce ripe fruit in the last week but they have soft
skins and split very easily. The larger fruited ones, Ferline, Fantasio
and Black Russian have fruit that is certainly beginning to change
colour but will take probably another week to start yielding ripe fruit.

I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the neighbours
than I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)

Have you ever frozen them?
I used to just drop them into a chest freezer, then use them later
instead of tinned tomatoes.


Do you skin them afterwards, David? We put our frozen ones in the juicer
without skinning and always get annoying bits of skin.
I find skinning them very tedious. Is there an easy way?

Baz

David Hill 09-08-2013 04:42 PM

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On 09/08/2013 16:19, Baz wrote:
David Hill wrote in news:b6iit9Fbg5oU2
@mid.individual.net:

On 08/08/2013 22:58, Bob Hobden wrote:
"sacha" wrote

I've just been down to the big greenhouse and picked about 30
tomatoes. What a joy to be able to do this and the smell of a ripe
tomato is fabulous.

We picked the first from our hanging basket "Tumblers" over a week ago,
and now, quite quickly, have built up a worrying stock of them in the
fridge.

I now understand why they are called tumblers because one nearly did
onto the ground when it broke it's stem. Luckily I saw it whilst it
still had a small bit of bark/skin attached and staked it so it couldn't
fall and break completely. Having cut off all the large leaves to reduce
transpiration it's now ripening it's little tomatoes quickly.

The ones out on the allotment are also beginning to produce ripe toms.
Lesotto, a blight resistant bush tomato which produces small fruit, has
also started to produce ripe fruit in the last week but they have soft
skins and split very easily. The larger fruited ones, Ferline, Fantasio
and Black Russian have fruit that is certainly beginning to change
colour but will take probably another week to start yielding ripe fruit.

I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the neighbours
than I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)

Have you ever frozen them?
I used to just drop them into a chest freezer, then use them later
instead of tinned tomatoes.


Do you skin them afterwards, David? We put our frozen ones in the juicer
without skinning and always get annoying bits of skin.
I find skinning them very tedious. Is there an easy way?

Baz

Just dip them in boiling water form a min and the skin peals off easily
whilst the inside stays frozen.

Baz[_3_] 09-08-2013 05:11 PM

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David Hill wrote in
:

I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the
neighbours than I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)
Have you ever frozen them?
I used to just drop them into a chest freezer, then use them later
instead of tinned tomatoes.


Do you skin them afterwards, David? We put our frozen ones in the
juicer without skinning and always get annoying bits of skin.
I find skinning them very tedious. Is there an easy way?

Baz

Just dip them in boiling water form a min and the skin peals off
easily whilst the inside stays frozen.


That is genious! Thankyou.
Tried it and had to break some of their skins with my nail, but a squeeze
worked. The skin ended up between my finger and thumb. Then back to the
freezer for the skinless tomato.
One of the best tips I have ever had.

Baz


Peter & Jeanne 09-08-2013 07:20 PM

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"Baz" wrote in message ...



That is genious! Thankyou.
Tried it and had to break some of their skins with my nail, but a squeeze
worked. The skin ended up between my finger and thumb. Then back to the
freezer for the skinless tomato.
One of the best tips I have ever had.


Well - I have never had any problem with tom skins in soup making.
I just bung the whole lot in a food processor - skins and all.
Faffing about removing skins for this end product seems unnecessary.

Pete

Baz[_3_] 09-08-2013 11:38 PM

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"Peter & Jeanne" wrote in
:


Well - I have never had any problem with tom skins in soup making.
I just bung the whole lot in a food processor - skins and all.
Faffing about removing skins for this end product seems unnecessary.

Pete


I know what you mean. But when the skins are tough, faffing around is the
only option apart from binning them. Some of my tomatoes in the past have
had skin like leather.

Baz

kay 09-08-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Hobden (Post 989422)
I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the neighbours than
I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)

The Portuguese make them into jam. Not green tomato jam, like we do with late ones that won't ripen, but a sweet red jam made with ripe tomatoes. I like it as long as I don't know what it is, but as soon as I realise it's tomato something in my brain says "this is a vegetable. You don't make jams from vegetables".

Peter & Jeanne 10-08-2013 08:34 AM

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"kay" wrote in message ...




The Portuguese make them into jam. Not green tomato jam, like we do with
late ones that won't ripen, but a sweet red jam made with ripe tomatoes.
I like it as long as I don't know what it is, but as soon as I realise
it's tomato something in my brain says "this is a vegetable. You don't
make jams from vegetables".


Hence, we lead nicely in to the fruit/veg difference topic - lol.
Think of them as the fruit of the tomato plant - then jamming may be looked
on favourably in your brain (:-)

Pete




David Hill 10-08-2013 08:52 AM

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On 09/08/2013 23:45, kay wrote:
Bob Hobden;989422 Wrote:

I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the neighbours
than
I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)


The Portuguese make them into jam. Not green tomato jam, like we do with
late ones that won't ripen, but a sweet red jam made with ripe tomatoes.
I like it as long as I don't know what it is, but as soon as I realise
it's tomato something in my brain says "this is a vegetable. You don't
make jams from vegetables".




Actually Tomatoes are Fruit

sacha 10-08-2013 09:42 AM

Tom time
 
On 2013-08-10 08:52:37 +0100, David Hill said:

On 09/08/2013 23:45, kay wrote:
Bob Hobden;989422 Wrote:

I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the neighbours
than
I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)


The Portuguese make them into jam. Not green tomato jam, like we do with
late ones that won't ripen, but a sweet red jam made with ripe tomatoes.
I like it as long as I don't know what it is, but as soon as I realise
it's tomato something in my brain says "this is a vegetable. You don't
make jams from vegetables".




Actually Tomatoes are Fruit


I thought I'd read somewhere - maybe here? - that they'd be
reclassified as veg? I prefer the fruit idea - who can resist a Love
Apple?!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


kay 10-08-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hill (Post 989507)
On 09/08/2013 23:45, kay wrote:
Bob Hobden;989422 Wrote:

I have no doubt I will have better luck offering them to the neighbours
than
I've had with the excess runner beans. :-)


The Portuguese make them into jam. Not green tomato jam, like we do with
late ones that won't ripen, but a sweet red jam made with ripe tomatoes.
I like it as long as I don't know what it is, but as soon as I realise
it's tomato something in my brain says "this is a vegetable. You don't
make jams from vegetables".




Actually Tomatoes are Fruit

It depends on the purpose of the classification. Botanically speaking, runner beans are fruit and rhubarb is a stem, for culinary purposes runner beans are vegetables and rhubarb is a fruit.

Victoria Conlan[_2_] 10-08-2013 09:59 PM

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kay wrote:
The Portuguese make them into jam. Not green tomato jam, like we do with
late ones that won't ripen, but a sweet red jam made with ripe tomatoes.
I like it as long as I don't know what it is, but as soon as I realise
it's tomato something in my brain says "this is a vegetable. You don't
make jams from vegetables".


Nick's mum makes jars and jars of green tomato jam.
And I was going to make this courgette marmalade, but didn't get time:
http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/recipes...ette-marmalade

Victoria Conlan[_2_] 10-08-2013 10:13 PM

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Peter & Jeanne wrote:
Hence, we lead nicely in to the fruit/veg difference topic - lol.


Our annual show led to a few discussions about definitions.

I was concerned about the 'tray of vegetables', whether I could put things like
tomato, courgette, cucumber, etc in, which are technically fruit. (I was going
to put a cucamelon in, and in hindsight I think I should have)

And a lady questioned the 'geranium' category when all the entries are actually
pelagoniums. Which I had wondered about previously

And one of the floral arrangments said "with 3 to 5 flowers". I had either 3 or
25. I had a stem of crocosmia ...
:-/


Victoria Conlan[_2_] 10-08-2013 10:14 PM

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Sacha wrote:
Actually Tomatoes are Fruit


I thought I'd read somewhere - maybe here? - that they'd be
reclassified as veg?


How can you reclassify it as a veg? Surely the definition comes from the fact
that the seeds grow inside it, so unless they have changed the physical form of
a tomato ...


sacha 10-08-2013 10:48 PM

Tom time
 
On 2013-08-10 22:14:52 +0100, Victoria Conlan said:

Sacha wrote:
Actually Tomatoes are Fruit


I thought I'd read somewhere - maybe here? - that they'd be
reclassified as veg?


How can you reclassify it as a veg? Surely the definition comes from the fact
that the seeds grow inside it, so unless they have changed the physical form of
a tomato ...


No idea. But I do know I've read that - whether ir's right or wrong or
was just an idea that hasn't been adopted, I don't know.
--

Sacha
South Devon


Victoria Conlan[_2_] 10-08-2013 11:17 PM

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Martin wrote:
I thought I'd read somewhere - maybe here? - that they'd be
reclassified as veg?


How can you reclassify it as a veg? Surely the definition comes from the fact
that the seeds grow inside it, so unless they have changed the physical form of
a tomato ...

strawberries are veg?


Ah, now they did this on QI, and I can't remember what the answer was. Each
individual blob of a raspberry is a fruit (or berry). Damn. Nope, can't quite
remember, sorry. But no, they're not a fruit or a veg. They're something like
a composite berrylette (ok, it wasn't this. But something kind of along those
lines)


Phil Cook 11-08-2013 09:03 AM

Tom time
 
On 10/08/2013 23:17, Victoria Conlan wrote:
Martin wrote:
I thought I'd read somewhere - maybe here? - that they'd be
reclassified as veg?

How can you reclassify it as a veg? Surely the definition comes from the fact
that the seeds grow inside it, so unless they have changed the physical form of
a tomato ...

strawberries are veg?


Ah, now they did this on QI, and I can't remember what the answer was. Each
individual blob of a raspberry is a fruit (or berry). Damn. Nope, can't quite
remember, sorry. But no, they're not a fruit or a veg. They're something like
a composite berrylette (ok, it wasn't this. But something kind of along those
lines)


Strawberries are aggregate accessory fruit according to wonkypedia.
Roughly meaning that the seeds are borne on the fleshy receptacle.

Rasps and blackberries are multiple drupelets; drupes are fleshy fruit
with an internal seed.
--
Phil Cook

Victoria Conlan[_2_] 11-08-2013 01:11 PM

Tom time
 
Phil Cook wrote:
Ah, now they did this on QI, and I can't remember what the answer was. Each
individual blob of a raspberry is a fruit (or berry). Damn. Nope, can't quite
remember, sorry. But no, they're not a fruit or a veg. They're something like
a composite berrylette (ok, it wasn't this. But something kind of along those
lines)

Strawberries are aggregate accessory fruit according to wonkypedia.


That'll be the one. :-)
(there was a word-space in my head, and that was the nearest I could get.
I think it wasn't a bad attempt, imho!)

kay 11-08-2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter & Jeanne (Post 989506)

"kay" wrote in message ...




The Portuguese make them into jam. Not green tomato jam, like we do with
late ones that won't ripen, but a sweet red jam made with ripe tomatoes.
I like it as long as I don't know what it is, but as soon as I realise
it's tomato something in my brain says "this is a vegetable. You don't
make jams from vegetables".


Hence, we lead nicely in to the fruit/veg difference topic - lol.
Think of them as the fruit of the tomato plant - then jamming may be looked
on favourably in your brain (:-)

Have you any tips for coping with carrot jam? ;-)

kay 11-08-2013 02:07 PM

And what about, eg Osteospermum?

kay 11-08-2013 02:09 PM

I can remember sitting down in a hotel for breakfast - 3 pots of jam on the table - tomato, pumpkin and carrot.


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