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Janet 27-08-2013 01:10 PM

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In article ,
lid says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:17:32 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:51:14 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:20:30 +0100, Jake
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:08:07 +0200, Martin wrote:



Like other finches goldfinches will eat any seed.

Well they didn't eat any of the (Gordon Ramsey) Nyger seed I bought.
Total waste of (Gordon Ramsey) money.


We don't waste our money on Nyger seed.

Our goldfinches get through at least one 25 kg sack of nyger seed per
annum. Since we started feeding it, they have multiplied to become the
third commonest bird at the annual garden bird-count.

Janet


That's similar to the finches often feeding in my garden. First choice
for goldfinches is nyger. Green finches go for nyger as well. I've not
seen any other finches eating nyger but bullfinches and chaffinches
like the thistle.


Try providing bog standard bird seed instead of a bird buffet.


I do that too. And wheat and nuts and fat balls. But it's the nyger
that attracts GF's; we had none until I provided it.

Janet



[email protected] 27-08-2013 01:51 PM

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In article ,
Martin wrote:

I am extremely old-fashioned, and still believe that using one's
intelligence is a desirable objective.


Did your school report say that you'll get know where in life with
that attitude? :)


Yes - in the unflattering terms you would expect.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Phil Cook 27-08-2013 06:48 PM

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On 27/08/2013 10:21, Jake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:49:11 +0100, David Hill
wrote:


But caterpillars don't go for dead nettles like they do the real thing.


That may be because they prefer live ones, which are usually more
green.


Dead nettles is a synonym for stingless nettles, not ones that have
expired.
--
Phil Cook

David Hill 27-08-2013 07:57 PM

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On 27/08/2013 18:48, Phil Cook wrote:
On 27/08/2013 10:21, Jake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:49:11 +0100, David Hill
wrote:


But caterpillars don't go for dead nettles like they do the real thing.


That may be because they prefer live ones, which are usually more
green.


Dead nettles is a synonym for stingless nettles, not ones that have
expired.



Stinging nettles are "Urtica dioica"
Dead nettles are "Lamium album"
Different family

Phil Gurr 27-08-2013 08:10 PM

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:59:04 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Collecting wild flower seed from the wild is quite legal providing
you have the landowners permission or it is on common land.
It is recommended that when collecting seed, not more than 20%
of the crop is taken.


How do you know, as an individual, when 20% of the "the crop" has
been taken? When you have taken 1:5 seed heads? But how do you know
that some one else hasn't already taken 1:5 seed heads? Or that
another person won't be along later to take another 1:5...


How many people have you seen collecting wildflower seed? When
a group of people are collecting, 20% is relatively easy to estimate
and is only a guide line.

What would you do? Ban all wildflower seed collecting or let
eveyone just hack in and take as much as they can?

Phil



Sacha[_11_] 27-08-2013 10:16 PM

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On 2013-08-27 13:24:31 +0100, Jake said:

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:50:34 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

pruned

At a place not far from here I was once told a story of a customer who
visited every spring to buy the same large selection of plants. He was
remembered because he liked to announce to other customers *very*
loudly that he "always got good plants, liked to grow the same ones
every year and knew they would always be in stock there". And he spent
£250+ each annual visit which I suppose is the real reason for
remembering him!

He drove to the nursery because he objected to paying their delivery
charge which, I think, was then around £10-15 for an order of his
size. He would not use the cafe there because the tea was too
expensive!

He had once lived nearby but, having moved, his drive became about 100
miles each way and the selection of plants he bought every year was
completely perennial! He would not be told!

So I suppose there's always someone .....


We do know someone very like that. Other suggestions have been made by
us and his gardening friends but it's his garden, so........
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Dave Liquorice[_2_] 28-08-2013 12:23 AM

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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:44:23 +0100 (BST), wrote:

Collecting wild flower seed from the wild is quite legal

providing
you have the landowners permission or it is on common land.
It is recommended that when collecting seed, not more than 20%
of the crop is taken.


How do you know, as an individual, when 20% of the "the crop" has
been taken? When you have taken 1:5 seed heads? But how do you

know
that some one else hasn't already taken 1:5 seed heads? Or that
another person won't be along later to take another 1:5...


That's just a rule created by people who like to order other people
around.


And created by people who haven't thought it through properly.

I am extremely old-fashioned, and still believe that using one's
intelligence is a desirable objective.


That assumes people have intelligence or knowledge which these days
is not often the case. It is very much "uncool" to know things and to
think.

--
Cheers
Dave.




Dave Liquorice[_2_] 28-08-2013 12:27 AM

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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:10:31 +0100, Phil Gurr wrote:

How many people have you seen collecting wildflower seed?


Not many, round here they come with trowels and take the whole plant,
particulary an orchid of some kind.

What would you do? Ban all wildflower seed collecting or let eveyone
just hack in and take as much as they can?


As Mr Maclaren said it should be down to intelligence and thinking.
Common sense says that if there is a whole field full of what you
want a couple of seed heads won't be missed. But if there is only a
single plant...

--
Cheers
Dave.




CT 28-08-2013 11:14 AM

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Martin wrote:

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:10:15 +0100, Janet wrote:

I do that too. And wheat and nuts and fat balls. But it's the
nyger that attracts GF's; we had none until I provided it.


We've never bought nyger. We always have goldfinches in winter.


I've put out nothing but sunflower hearts this summer and have had more
Goldfinches & Greenfinches than I've ever had.

--
Chris

Sacha[_11_] 28-08-2013 01:39 PM

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On 2013-08-28 11:14:54 +0100, CT said:

Martin wrote:

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:10:15 +0100, Janet wrote:

I do that too. And wheat and nuts and fat balls. But it's the
nyger that attracts GF's; we had none until I provided it.


We've never bought nyger. We always have goldfinches in winter.


I've put out nothing but sunflower hearts this summer and have had more
Goldfinches & Greenfinches than I've ever had.


I've put out nyger a few times over the years and we get almost zero
gold or green finches here. I'm told there are several around in
various places, so I can only imagine that whatever they want to eat is
supplied in the woods, hedgerows and fields around us.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk



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