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Sacha[_11_] 26-08-2013 11:29 AM

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Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


'Mike'[_4_] 26-08-2013 11:38 AM

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Look at the price of Bay Leaves. We chop our trees back every year, they
grow like weeds in our gardens and self set. We put the young plants, along
with the Holly Bushes which grow, either through the shredder or in the
hedge to thicken it up.

See you in the Caribbean in the in the winter. (The brochures for the 2015
World Cruises came today)

Mike



"Sacha" wrote in message ...

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Sacha[_11_] 26-08-2013 01:08 PM

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On 2013-08-26 12:48:04 +0100, Jake said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


Great! You take care of the nettles and buttercups, I'll supply the
Himalayan balsam plants. A mix to attract all the pollinators.

Careful, though, there's a risk that while you're over wintering
someone will break in and dig up all the valuable plants from the
field. You'll need to hire security.


Amazing isn't it?! Talk about selling ice to Eskimos! It's the price
that gets me as much as the doing of it! It's commendable to want to
bring wildlife to your garden but do none of these potential buyers
have friends with gardens that can supply weeds for free?! £8 for a
pot of weeds that someone has dug up from a neglected bit of field or
garden! Dandelions too, I believe. Now - where did I put that
bridge....!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Sacha[_11_] 26-08-2013 01:08 PM

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On 2013-08-26 11:31:34 +0100, Martin said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


Don't flood the market! See you in the Caribbean!


St Marten of course! ;-)
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Martin Brown 26-08-2013 01:30 PM

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On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I


HOW MUCH!!

really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


Boggle?! Do think there might be a market for "nettle seed" with
townies? I could easily harvest a few kg with no bother at all!

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Fuschia[_4_] 26-08-2013 01:46 PM

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On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


Who'd want to go to the Caribbean? It's full of holidaying garden
designers and nursery owners drinking their profits.
:)

David in Normandy[_8_] 26-08-2013 01:57 PM

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On 26/08/2013 14:08, Sacha wrote:

Amazing isn't it?! Talk about selling ice to Eskimos! It's the price
that gets me as much as the doing of it!


It must the the "handling charge" Would you want to pot up and package a
load of nettles? Ouch, ouch, ouch. ;-)

--
David in Normandy.

David in Normandy[_8_] 26-08-2013 01:59 PM

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On 26/08/2013 12:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


So you get stung buying them, and stung again planting them out. :P

--
David in Normandy.

Baz[_3_] 26-08-2013 02:05 PM

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David in Normandy wrote in news:kvfjc3$abc
:

On 26/08/2013 14:08, Sacha wrote:

Amazing isn't it?! Talk about selling ice to Eskimos! It's the price
that gets me as much as the doing of it!


It must the the "handling charge" Would you want to pot up and package a
load of nettles? Ouch, ouch, ouch. ;-)


This must be the year of the nettle. Big nasty ones too. You can have all
of them. No handling charges. Ouch, ouch, ouch. ;-)

Baz

Baz[_3_] 26-08-2013 02:15 PM

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Fuschia wrote in
:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


Who'd want to go to the Caribbean? It's full of holidaying garden
designers and nursery owners drinking their profits.
:)


Well, it will be soon, judging by everyones plans in this thread.

This group will be dead for a few weeks! ;-} Until they come back.

Baz

sacha 26-08-2013 02:29 PM

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On 2013-08-26 12:57:04 +0000, Martin said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:08:31 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 2013-08-26 11:31:34 +0100, Martin said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!

Don't flood the market! See you in the Caribbean!


St Marten of course! ;-)


:-)

Guadeloupe?


Spelt 'Gullible'!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


sacha 26-08-2013 02:30 PM

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On 2013-08-26 12:56:17 +0000, Martin said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:08:07 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 2013-08-26 12:48:04 +0100, Jake said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!

Great! You take care of the nettles and buttercups, I'll supply the
Himalayan balsam plants. A mix to attract all the pollinators.

Careful, though, there's a risk that while you're over wintering
someone will break in and dig up all the valuable plants from the
field. You'll need to hire security.


Amazing isn't it?! Talk about selling ice to Eskimos! It's the price
that gets me as much as the doing of it! It's commendable to want to
bring wildlife to your garden but do none of these potential buyers
have friends with gardens that can supply weeds for free?! £8 for a
pot of weeds that someone has dug up from a neglected bit of field or
garden! Dandelions too, I believe. Now - where did I put that
bridge....!


There are plenty of weeds up for grabs on grass verges.


That probably contravenes some law or other to do with wild plants.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


sacha 26-08-2013 02:37 PM

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On 2013-08-26 12:46:17 +0000, Fuschia said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


Who'd want to go to the Caribbean? It's full of holidaying garden
designers and nursery owners drinking their profits.
:)


Oh sure! ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


sacha 26-08-2013 02:39 PM

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On 2013-08-26 12:30:31 +0000, Martin Brown said:

On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I


HOW MUCH!!

really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


Boggle?! Do think there might be a market for "nettle seed" with
townies? I could easily harvest a few kg with no bother at all!


Martin, I swear this is true. Two of us here had the "Is it 1st April?"
reaction.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening...-for-7.99.html

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


Dave Liquorice[_2_] 26-08-2013 02:47 PM

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On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:56:17 +0200, Martin wrote:

There are plenty of weeds up for grabs on grass verges.


Pretty sure that taking anything, including seed, from the "wild" is
illegal over here. Of course the nettles we have an their seed have
been grown and are not "wild".

Do you think we could charge more for nettles that grow to 5' with
stems as thick as a big marker pen?

--
Cheers
Dave.




David Hill 26-08-2013 03:13 PM

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On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


I'm moving upmarket with my pots of Urtica dioica, and I'm working on a
sting free variety that will cost twice as much.
Then it's off to the Himilayers where I've heard of giant Himalayan
stinging nettle plants, these Ill develop for fibre after all they are
the same family as hemp.

Sacha[_11_] 26-08-2013 03:21 PM

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On 2013-08-26 15:13:22 +0100, David Hill said:

On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


I'm moving upmarket with my pots of Urtica dioica, and I'm working on a
sting free variety that will cost twice as much.
Then it's off to the Himilayers where I've heard of giant Himalayan
stinging nettle plants, these Ill develop for fibre after all they are
the same family as hemp.


I especially like the statement that the plants are proving so popular
they're having to give more space over to growing them!!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Martin Brown 26-08-2013 03:49 PM

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On 26/08/2013 14:39, sacha wrote:
On 2013-08-26 12:30:31 +0000, Martin Brown said:

On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I


HOW MUCH!!

really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


Boggle?! Do think there might be a market for "nettle seed" with
townies? I could easily harvest a few kg with no bother at all!


Martin, I swear this is true. Two of us here had the "Is it 1st April?"
reaction.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening...-for-7.99.html

I didn't doubt you for a moment. I did marvel at the price and product!

Surely it isn't beyond their capabilities to bring home a piece of ripe
nettle stem and spread the seeds if they want some wild nettles. I leave
some in the wilder parts of my garden and field boundaries for
butterflies. Ditto nectar rich flowers like pink verbena, buddleia and
sedum spectabile which is just coming into flower now. The butterflies
need all the help they can get after last year.

Until this last weekend I had mostly seen cabbage whites but finally at
last a few peacocks and red admirals have appeared. Warm and sunny here
today which makes for a very pleasant August Bank Holiday.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Phil Gurr 26-08-2013 04:00 PM

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:56:17 +0200, Martin wrote:

There are plenty of weeds up for grabs on grass verges.


Pretty sure that taking anything, including seed, from the "wild" is
illegal over here. Of course the nettles we have an their seed have
been grown and are not "wild".


Collecting wild flower seed from the wild is quite legal providing
you have the landowners permission or it is on common land.
It is recommended that when collecting seed, not more than 20%
of the crop is taken.

Phil
Retired manager of the Ashton Wold wildflower project



Bob Hobden 26-08-2013 04:09 PM

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"Sacha" wrote ...

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only £7.99
per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I really have
now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up nettles and enable
us to over-winter in the Caribbean!

They obviously saw my post about selling potted Couch Grass. Maybe I should
pursue my idea.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK


Stephen Wolstenholme[_3_] 26-08-2013 04:28 PM

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On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


As I'm sure you know, it's all about a company taking the risk out of
illegally helping yourself to wild plants. Besides weeds will not grow
if you want them to. If they did they aren't weeds.

Steve

--
EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. http://www.easynn.com
SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. http://www.swingnn.com
JustNN. Just Neural Networks. http://www.justnn.com


Stephen Wolstenholme[_3_] 26-08-2013 04:30 PM

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On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:30:31 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I


HOW MUCH!!

really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


Boggle?! Do think there might be a market for "nettle seed" with
townies? I could easily harvest a few kg with no bother at all!


Goldfinches love nettle seeds. It's worth a few £ to attract the
birds.

Steve

--
EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. http://www.easynn.com
SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. http://www.swingnn.com
JustNN. Just Neural Networks. http://www.justnn.com


sacha 26-08-2013 11:28 PM

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On 2013-08-26 15:09:28 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote ...

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!

They obviously saw my post about selling potted Couch Grass. Maybe I
should pursue my idea.


You find an insect that thrives on it and you're made!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


sacha 26-08-2013 11:32 PM

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On 2013-08-26 15:28:12 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


As I'm sure you know, it's all about a company taking the risk out of
illegally helping yourself to wild plants. Besides weeds will not grow
if you want them to. If they did they aren't weeds.

Steve


Sorry Steve but I cannot believe you're posting that seriously. £8 for
a pot of nettles. £4 for a pot of dandelions or buttercups? That seems
reasonable to you and fair to the consumer who, in 9 places out of 10,
could turn over a patch of ground, leave it entirely alone for a year
and watch all of those things find their way in.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


David Hill 26-08-2013 11:49 PM

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On 26/08/2013 22:05, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:13:22 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


I'm moving upmarket with my pots of Urtica dioica, and I'm working on a
sting free variety that will cost twice as much.


Red dead nettles are there waiting to be sold.

Then it's off to the Himilayers where I've heard of giant Himalayan
stinging nettle plants, these Ill develop for fibre after all they are
the same family as hemp.


But caterpillars don't go for dead nettles like they do the real thing.

David Hill 26-08-2013 11:52 PM

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On 26/08/2013 23:32, sacha wrote:
On 2013-08-26 15:28:12 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


As I'm sure you know, it's all about a company taking the risk out of
illegally helping yourself to wild plants. Besides weeds will not grow
if you want them to. If they did they aren't weeds.

Steve


Sorry Steve but I cannot believe you're posting that seriously. £8 for a
pot of nettles. £4 for a pot of dandelions or buttercups? That seems
reasonable to you and fair to the consumer who, in 9 places out of 10,
could turn over a patch of ground, leave it entirely alone for a year
and watch all of those things find their way in.


But dandelions are grown as a chicory substitute, blanched their leaves
are good in salad, and the root dried will grind down as a coffee substitute

David Hill 26-08-2013 11:54 PM

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On 26/08/2013 23:32, sacha wrote:
On 2013-08-26 15:28:12 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!


As I'm sure you know, it's all about a company taking the risk out of
illegally helping yourself to wild plants. Besides weeds will not grow
if you want them to. If they did they aren't weeds.

Steve


Sorry Steve but I cannot believe you're posting that seriously. £8 for a
pot of nettles. £4 for a pot of dandelions or buttercups? That seems
reasonable to you and fair to the consumer who, in 9 places out of 10,
could turn over a patch of ground, leave it entirely alone for a year
and watch all of those things find their way in.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SW-Dandeli...-/360205339895

Janet 27-08-2013 08:55 AM

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In article ,
lid says...

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:49:11 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 26/08/2013 22:05, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:13:22 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!

I'm moving upmarket with my pots of Urtica dioica, and I'm working on a
sting free variety that will cost twice as much.

Red dead nettles are there waiting to be sold.

Then it's off to the Himilayers where I've heard of giant Himalayan
stinging nettle plants, these Ill develop for fibre after all they are
the same family as hemp.


But caterpillars don't go for dead nettles like they do the real thing.


but you can eat the tops of young Lamium purpureum


Never heard of eating deadnettle. that. You can eat the tops of
Urtica dioica (and I have)

Janet



David Hill 27-08-2013 09:16 AM

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On 27/08/2013 08:55, Janet wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:49:11 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 26/08/2013 22:05, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:13:22 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!

I'm moving upmarket with my pots of Urtica dioica, and I'm working on a
sting free variety that will cost twice as much.

Red dead nettles are there waiting to be sold.

Then it's off to the Himilayers where I've heard of giant Himalayan
stinging nettle plants, these Ill develop for fibre after all they are
the same family as hemp.

But caterpillars don't go for dead nettles like they do the real thing.


but you can eat the tops of young Lamium purpureum


Never heard of eating deadnettle. that. You can eat the tops of
Urtica dioica (and I have)

Janet


A useful spring veg, then when you have had your share the butterfly can
lay their eggs on it and the caterpillars have their share before the
birds find them.

Sacha[_11_] 27-08-2013 09:59 AM

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On 2013-08-26 16:00:34 +0100, Phil Gurr said:

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:56:17 +0200, Martin wrote:

There are plenty of weeds up for grabs on grass verges.


Pretty sure that taking anything, including seed, from the "wild" is
illegal over here. Of course the nettles we have an their seed have
been grown and are not "wild".


Collecting wild flower seed from the wild is quite legal providing
you have the landowners permission or it is on common land.
It is recommended that when collecting seed, not more than 20%
of the crop is taken.

Phil
Retired manager of the Ashton Wold wildflower project


That's good to know because the subject often crops up on here in one
way or another. So - we're all rolling in money then - though not in
nettles, perhaps!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Sacha[_11_] 27-08-2013 10:00 AM

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On 2013-08-27 09:16:13 +0100, David Hill said:

On 27/08/2013 08:55, Janet wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:49:11 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 26/08/2013 22:05, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:13:22 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 26/08/2013 11:29, Sacha wrote:
Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!

I'm moving upmarket with my pots of Urtica dioica, and I'm working on a
sting free variety that will cost twice as much.

Red dead nettles are there waiting to be sold.

Then it's off to the Himilayers where I've heard of giant Himalayan
stinging nettle plants, these Ill develop for fibre after all they are
the same family as hemp.

But caterpillars don't go for dead nettles like they do the real thing.

but you can eat the tops of young Lamium purpureum


Never heard of eating deadnettle. that. You can eat the tops of
Urtica dioica (and I have)

Janet


A useful spring veg, then when you have had your share the butterfly
can lay their eggs on it and the caterpillars have their share before
the birds find them.


I don't remember being given it but my grandmother swore by young
nettles as a spring tonic.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Sacha[_11_] 27-08-2013 10:02 AM

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On 2013-08-26 23:52:40 +0100, David Hill said:

On 26/08/2013 23:32, sacha wrote:
On 2013-08-26 15:28:12 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:29:20 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Gardening Express are now selling 2 litre pots of nettles for those who
lives in towns and don't have enough wildlife in their garden. Only
£7.99 per pot. They're also selling buttercups and other 'weeds'. I
really have now heard it all and am going into the field to dig up
nettles and enable us to over-winter in the Caribbean!

As I'm sure you know, it's all about a company taking the risk out of
illegally helping yourself to wild plants. Besides weeds will not grow
if you want them to. If they did they aren't weeds.

Steve


Sorry Steve but I cannot believe you're posting that seriously. £8 for a
pot of nettles. £4 for a pot of dandelions or buttercups? That seems
reasonable to you and fair to the consumer who, in 9 places out of 10,
could turn over a patch of ground, leave it entirely alone for a year
and watch all of those things find their way in.


But dandelions are grown as a chicory substitute, blanched their leaves
are good in salad, and the root dried will grind down as a coffee
substitute


Absolutely. And I knew a family who great them in neat rows and used
the young leaves in salads. But as a £4 pot of plants. Pick one
gone-to-seed flower from someone's garden and blow the seeds around in
your own! Last year was a fantastic year for dandelions and this year
has been pretty good too.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


[email protected] 27-08-2013 10:19 AM

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In article ,
Sacha wrote:
On 2013-08-26 23:52:40 +0100, David Hill said:

But dandelions are grown as a chicory substitute, blanched their leaves
are good in salad, and the root dried will grind down as a coffee
substitute


Absolutely. And I knew a family who great them in neat rows and used
the young leaves in salads. But as a £4 pot of plants. Pick one
gone-to-seed flower from someone's garden and blow the seeds around in
your own! Last year was a fantastic year for dandelions and this year
has been pretty good too.


They were almost certainly among the 60% of people who cannot taste
bitterness - for those of us who can, they are unbearably bitter.
The cultivated form (endive) has been bred to reduce that, as with
so many plants, but remains too bitter for many people.

But, if you like them, why not? I believe that most sow thistles
are edible, too, but the same applies.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Dave Liquorice[_2_] 27-08-2013 10:24 AM

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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:59:04 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Collecting wild flower seed from the wild is quite legal providing
you have the landowners permission or it is on common land.
It is recommended that when collecting seed, not more than 20%
of the crop is taken.


How do you know, as an individual, when 20% of the "the crop" has
been taken? When you have taken 1:5 seed heads? But how do you know
that some one else hasn't already taken 1:5 seed heads? Or that
another person won't be along later to take another 1:5...

That's good to know because the subject often crops up on here in one
way or another. So - we're all rolling in money then - though not in
nettles, perhaps!


I suspect we'll all soon have the same economic problems as the "B"
Arc...

--
Cheers
Dave.




Dave Liquorice[_2_] 27-08-2013 10:34 AM

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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:02:37 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Absolutely. And I knew a family who great them in neat rows and used
the young leaves in salads. But as a £4 pot of plants.


There's nowt as daft as folk... Even in the most concrete of concrete
jungles I'd be surprised if a bit bare earth didn't sprout at least
one of dandilions, nettles, rosebay willow herb, thistle, ragwort or
budlia within 12 months.

Last year was a fantastic year for dandelions and this year has been
pretty good too.


Not so good up here, might start trying to reduce their numbers next
year. We've more or less got rid of the ragwort and thistles. Though
a thistle had sneakly gone to seed behind a gate this year, it's now
and a majority of the exploded seed head in the green council compost
wheelie bin along with a few ragworts that survived the verge mowing
and have just flowered. Oh most of the contents of that 240 l wheelie
bin is compressed nettles...

--
Cheers
Dave.




[email protected] 27-08-2013 10:44 AM

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In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:59:04 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Collecting wild flower seed from the wild is quite legal providing
you have the landowners permission or it is on common land.
It is recommended that when collecting seed, not more than 20%
of the crop is taken.


How do you know, as an individual, when 20% of the "the crop" has
been taken? When you have taken 1:5 seed heads? But how do you know
that some one else hasn't already taken 1:5 seed heads? Or that
another person won't be along later to take another 1:5...


That's just a rule created by people who like to order other people
around. There is no harm in collecting 100% of the seed of plants
that are sufficiently common or not limited by the amount of seed
they generate. Blackberries, elderberries and sloes are examples.
The point is that you WON'T collect more than a neglible proportion
of the population's seed, and the plants don't rely on seeding every
year, anyway.

Also, unless they have changed the law, it's still perfectly legal
to collect without permission, except for specified plants. Wild
plants and animals are not property, though the establishment has
done their best to turn them into that by back doors :-(

I am extremely old-fashioned, and still believe that using one's
intelligence is a desirable objective.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha[_11_] 27-08-2013 10:50 AM

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On 2013-08-27 10:25:01 +0100, Jake said:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:32:17 +0100, sacha wrote:

£4 for a pot of dandelions ...


I read it as ONE dandelion plant in an approx 1 litre pot. I hope it's
a big one for that money.


I think that's just what it is - one plant. I was thinking of the
multiple heads, I suppose! I wonder who DOES buy pots of weeds for
that sort of money. Any nurseryman will tell you that you get the
occasional customer who will baulk at spending £5.00 on a perennial
that will last years. But they'd probably buy a bunch of flowers for
twice that and it will be dead in a week! So who will cheerfully spend
that sort of money on a pot of weeds, however pretty, edible or
wildlife friendly they are? Sometimes we see those newspaper ads for
plants that are 'only' £8.99 per plant and in the small print, the pot
size is 9cm! Obviously people buy them, or they wouldn't go on
advertising them at great expense. But it's an awful lot of money for
very little. The only thing I'm thinking is that there really is a
market for highly priced stuff that makes the buyers believe they're
getting some rare luxury goods. Bit like the current vogue for
hideously ugly, stratospherically expensive handbags! Or a restaurant
near London where the prices are extremely high and the customers sit
in scruffy old greenhouses, surrounded by shabby-chic 'stuff' and on
wet days get rained on, while the waitresses wear wellies. It's
expensive and it gives a certain type of Londoner what I call the
'Marie Antoinette experience' of playing at living in the country!
There's nowt so queer as folk, to quote the same old granny!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Janet 27-08-2013 10:51 AM

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In article ,
lid says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:20:30 +0100, Jake
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:08:07 +0200, Martin wrote:



Like other finches goldfinches will eat any seed.


Well they didn't eat any of the (Gordon Ramsey) Nyger seed I bought.
Total waste of (Gordon Ramsey) money.



We don't waste our money on Nyger seed.


Our goldfinches get through at least one 25 kg sack of nyger seed per
annum. Since we started feeding it, they have multiplied to become the
third commonest bird at the annual garden bird-count.

Janet

Stephen Wolstenholme[_3_] 27-08-2013 11:17 AM

Weeeeeeed!
 
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:51:14 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:20:30 +0100, Jake
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:08:07 +0200, Martin wrote:



Like other finches goldfinches will eat any seed.

Well they didn't eat any of the (Gordon Ramsey) Nyger seed I bought.
Total waste of (Gordon Ramsey) money.



We don't waste our money on Nyger seed.


Our goldfinches get through at least one 25 kg sack of nyger seed per
annum. Since we started feeding it, they have multiplied to become the
third commonest bird at the annual garden bird-count.

Janet


That's similar to the finches often feeding in my garden. First choice
for goldfinches is nyger. Green finches go for nyger as well. I've not
seen any other finches eating nyger but bullfinches and chaffinches
like the thistle.

Steve


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Janet 27-08-2013 12:03 PM

Weeeeeeed!
 
In article ,
lid says...

Our goldfinches get through at least one 25 kg sack of nyger seed per
annum. Since we started feeding it, they have multiplied to become the
third commonest bird at the annual garden bird-count.


Our goldfinches and other finches are seasonal. They thrive on bog
standard bird seed. How do these bird counts avoid counting the same
birds more than once?


Because you're not counting a grand total, but the size of a group
seen together at one time.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/birdwatch/how.aspx

Janet.


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