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Thunder and now rain - no lightning yet. Stair rods of water bouncing
off the greenhouse roofs, so I hope everything in the garden soaks it all up and has a lovely, refreshing drink. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Oh dear. Beautiful sunshine here.
Just been out shredding for the compost, no sign of rain on the radar either :-) Enjoy your rain Mike South East Coast of the Isle of Wight. "Sacha" wrote in message ... Thunder and now rain - no lightning yet. Stair rods of water bouncing off the greenhouse roofs, so I hope everything in the garden soaks it all up and has a lovely, refreshing drink. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 27/08/2013 18:03, Sacha wrote:
Thunder and now rain - no lightning yet. Stair rods of water bouncing off the greenhouse roofs, so I hope everything in the garden soaks it all up and has a lovely, refreshing drink. No thanks Sacha, please keep it down there, I've spent almost 5 hours yesterday and a further 2 hours this afternoon watering and feeding the dahlias out the field, that seems to be a problem with pots and coir,. David from a pleasant, dry side of Swansea Bay. |
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On 2013-08-27 20:29:11 +0100, David Hill said:
On 27/08/2013 18:03, Sacha wrote: Thunder and now rain - no lightning yet. Stair rods of water bouncing off the greenhouse roofs, so I hope everything in the garden soaks it all up and has a lovely, refreshing drink. No thanks Sacha, please keep it down there, I've spent almost 5 hours yesterday and a further 2 hours this afternoon watering and feeding the dahlias out the field, that seems to be a problem with pots and coir,. David from a pleasant, dry side of Swansea Bay. Hope you get your wish, David. The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Then we had a steady but fine rain for about an hour. Both were welcome in terms of freshening up the gardening and meaning there's less watering outside tomorrow on the Nursery. Matthew drove back from Plymouth this afternoon, before the storm reached us and said that, at one point, the windscreen wipers couldn't cope and it was almost as black as night. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:12:03 +0100, Sacha wrote:
The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 2013-08-27 23:42:41 +0100, Dave Liquorice said:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:12:03 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Jake wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:29:11 +0100, David Hill wrote: On 27/08/2013 18:03, Sacha wrote: Thunder and now rain - no lightning yet. Stair rods of water bouncing off the greenhouse roofs, so I hope everything in the garden soaks it all up and has a lovely, refreshing drink. No thanks Sacha, please keep it down there, I've spent almost 5 hours yesterday and a further 2 hours this afternoon watering and feeding the dahlias out the field, that seems to be a problem with pots and coir,. David from a pleasant, dry side of Swansea Bay. I'd just like the Met Office to make up its mind. I know we can check forecasts by different "providers" and there are some which are more reliable but yesterday I saw "Dippy Derek" on BBC Wales saying you and I will be dry till at least the weekend, then a national BBC presenter saying you and I will get soaked tomorrow, the BBC weather site saying only you will be getting wet and the Met Office web site warning of rain for us both. That's four different forecasts from the same b***** place within 5 minutes! And attempting to match your desire is PRECISELY the reason that the reports keep changing! What most people will not admit (though most realise it) is that predicting the weather is intrinsically a statistical matter, and there is absolutely no possibility of giving definite, reliable forecasts. What is more, the unreliability is not purely in matters of degree, but in kind. Back in the days when they concentrated on describing the likely movements and properties of air masses, the presentation was better (though the data available were MUCH worse). At least the Met. Office's web page has improved by being less definite in giving the probability of precipitation, but a reliable forecast would need to be highly probabilistic and conditional. I would dearly love to see them provide such a page for the general public. Note that this isn't something that can be improved by better science, data, supercomputers or anything else - it's a basic property of the problem and is insoluble in an absolute sense. Pure mathematicians will know what I mean by that. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 28/08/2013 11:01, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:03:10 +0100, Sacha wrote: Thunder and now rain - no lightning yet. Stair rods of water bouncing off the greenhouse roofs, so I hope everything in the garden soaks it all up and has a lovely, refreshing drink. No thunder, no rain, just fair weather cumulous and lost of sunshine. We have the same lost sunshine. |
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Martin wrote: Back in the days when they concentrated on describing the likely movements and properties of air masses, the presentation was better (though the data available were MUCH worse). At least the Met. Office's web page has improved by being less definite in giving the probability of precipitation, but a reliable forecast would need to be highly probabilistic and conditional. I would dearly love to see them provide such a page for the general public. The Dutch Met Office does but they try to cover the whole country with just one forecast. That's reasonable, given its size and lack of terrain, but they really should have some adjustments for the times and probabilities that a front is passing through or hovering there. From long ago, in the time before their one computer, a Ferranti Mercury, or any other computers were used by the Met Office for short term forecast, I remember that short term forecasts for specific locations like airfields were very accurate compared to general forecast for the area in which the airfield was located. Perhaps partly because forecasts were funded by the Air Ministry in those days and the forecasters had vast experience of forecasting for airfields. Sort of. It was because Old Fred had many decades of experience for that particular location, and used his subconscious. The general forecasts were based on the science, which was basic, and the data, which was almost non-existent. They were little better than crude guesswork. My first job, in 1966, was physically within the Met. Office, and I was programming a Mercury. It was completely inadequate for anything as tricky as a forecast, though that was the sort of programming I was trying to do. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 2013-08-28 09:37:54 +0100, Jake said:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:29:11 +0100, David Hill wrote: On 27/08/2013 18:03, Sacha wrote: Thunder and now rain - no lightning yet. Stair rods of water bouncing off the greenhouse roofs, so I hope everything in the garden soaks it all up and has a lovely, refreshing drink. No thanks Sacha, please keep it down there, I've spent almost 5 hours yesterday and a further 2 hours this afternoon watering and feeding the dahlias out the field, that seems to be a problem with pots and coir,. David from a pleasant, dry side of Swansea Bay. I'd just like the Met Office to make up its mind. I know we can check forecasts by different "providers" and there are some which are more reliable but yesterday I saw "Dippy Derek" on BBC Wales saying you and I will be dry till at least the weekend, then a national BBC presenter saying you and I will get soaked tomorrow, the BBC weather site saying only you will be getting wet and the Met Office web site warning of rain for us both. That's four different forecasts from the same b***** place within 5 minutes! Shall I 'have a word' next time I go to Exeter? ;-) I agree it's infuriating and the same applies to us and proably everywhere else! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote:
The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 28/08/2013 14:47, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? |
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On 2013-08-28 17:26:07 +0100, David Hill said:
On 28/08/2013 14:47, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2013-08-28 17:26:07 +0100, David Hill said: On 28/08/2013 14:47, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 28/08/2013 18:48, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-08-28 17:26:07 +0100, David Hill said: On 28/08/2013 14:47, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! Well we know what some wifes are like, "Oh could you just pop out and get so and so from the car I forgot it", and we do wory about Ray, |
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Martin wrote: The Dutch Met Office does but they try to cover the whole country with just one forecast. That's reasonable, given its size and lack of terrain, but they really should have some adjustments for the times and probabilities that a front is passing through or hovering there. Temperatures between the north and south and between the coast and the east can very different. Other than due to the qualifications I mention above, not really. The whole country's no larger than the south-eastern corner of England, and the weather is no more variable over it. Sort of. It was because Old Fred had many decades of experience for that particular location, and used his subconscious. The general forecasts were based on the science, which was basic, and the data, which was almost non-existent. They were little better than crude guesswork. Experimental long range forecasting was 51% correct. Short range was much better than pure luck. Observations were made several times a day at many locations in UK and all over Europe and on three weather ships that were stationed mid Atlantic. Heck - I can do much better than pure luck, using no equipment and no calculation! It wasn't until the satellites that even the short- term forecast became significantly better than "The same as the day before". And THAT is the fair test. The forecaster mentally compared the current situation with what the forecaster remembered happening next, when the situation occurred on previous occasions. The forecasters on airfields didn't spend their lives in one location. It's a long time ago but AFAIR they spent around three years before moving somewhere else. On the weather ships it was less than three years. The former is what I said. I will take your word for the latter! My first job, in 1966, was physically within the Met. Office, and I was programming a Mercury. It was completely inadequate for anything as tricky as a forecast, though that was the sort of programming I was trying to do. When I left in 1964, they already had a KDF9. The Mercury was used for modeling And it wasn't powerful enough even for that. In one of my courses, I point out that my hearing aids are 10,000 times more powerful than a Mercury, and a damn sight less than 10,000th of the size! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 2013-08-28 19:03:36 +0100, Jake said:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:48:09 +0100, Sacha wrote: Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! And there was I merely thinking that you'd quite sensibly asked him to pop out to the car to get the umbrella you'd left in it so that, if he needed to go out to the car, he'd be able to use the umbrella to stay dry. You lead a very convoluted life! ;-)) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2013-08-28 19:44:51 +0100, David Hill said:
On 28/08/2013 18:48, Sacha wrote: On 2013-08-28 17:26:07 +0100, David Hill said: On 28/08/2013 14:47, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! Well we know what some wifes are like, "Oh could you just pop out and get so and so from the car I forgot it", and we do wory about Ray, You wait - just wait....! ;-) In the rain -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 28/08/2013 23:40, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-08-28 19:44:51 +0100, David Hill said: On 28/08/2013 18:48, Sacha wrote: On 2013-08-28 17:26:07 +0100, David Hill said: On 28/08/2013 14:47, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! Well we know what some wifes are like, "Oh could you just pop out and get so and so from the car I forgot it", and we do wory about Ray, You wait - just wait....! ;-) In the rain Who do you think I am? Enry igins? |
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On 2013-08-29 09:50:45 +0100, David Hill said:
On 28/08/2013 23:40, Sacha wrote: On 2013-08-28 19:44:51 +0100, David Hill said: On 28/08/2013 18:48, Sacha wrote: On 2013-08-28 17:26:07 +0100, David Hill said: On 28/08/2013 14:47, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! Well we know what some wifes are like, "Oh could you just pop out and get so and so from the car I forgot it", and we do wory about Ray, You wait - just wait....! ;-) In the rain Who do you think I am? Enry igins? You're Welsh. You can't possibly sing that badly! ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Martin wrote: The Dutch Met Office does but they try to cover the whole country with just one forecast. That's reasonable, given its size and lack of terrain, but they really should have some adjustments for the times and probabilities that a front is passing through or hovering there. Temperatures between the north and south and between the coast and the east can very different. Other than due to the qualifications I mention above, not really. The whole country's no larger than the south-eastern corner of England, and the weather is no more variable over it. It's not the area, but the shape that makes the difference. The extreme north is on the same latitude as Sheffield the extreme south is on the same latitude as Bournemouth The east can have continental weather whilst the west has Atlantic weather. The north can be bitterly cold and dry, whilst the south is wet and warm. The coast is in two Met Office Sea Areas. All of that is true of East Anglia, and the reasons are as I said. Weather fronts can be quite sharp. Sort of. It was because Old Fred had many decades of experience for that particular location, and used his subconscious. The general forecasts were based on the science, which was basic, and the data, which was almost non-existent. They were little better than crude guesswork. Experimental long range forecasting was 51% correct. Short range was much better than pure luck. Observations were made several times a day at many locations in UK and all over Europe and on three weather ships that were stationed mid Atlantic. Heck - I can do much better than pure luck, using no equipment and no calculation! It wasn't until the satellites that even the short- term forecast became significantly better than "The same as the day before". And THAT is the fair test. That was the comment made when the figure for long range forecast accuracy was provided to parliament. And it's true, so please don't compare against pure luck. That's a political trick, not science. I've sailed all my life. The weather is often not the same where I live and where I keep my boat 60 miles north of where I live. It is almost always far windier where I keep my boat. Sigh. I have worked with meteorologists (loosely, but in several contexts) and in related areas, over many decades. Such variations are common, and they are entirely due to either microclimate or the weather front effect I mention above. The forecaster mentally compared the current situation with what the forecaster remembered happening next, when the situation occurred on previous occasions. The forecasters on airfields didn't spend their lives in one location. It's a long time ago but AFAIR they spent around three years before moving somewhere else. On the weather ships it was less than three years. The former is what I said. You said decades. Yes. Decades of experience. I will take your word for the latter! My first job, in 1966, was physically within the Met. Office, and I was programming a Mercury. It was completely inadequate for anything as tricky as a forecast, though that was the sort of programming I was trying to do. When I left in 1964, they already had a KDF9. The Mercury was used for modeling And it wasn't powerful enough even for that. Depending in the model. That is simply wrong. Did YOU use one for atmospheric modelling? Because I did. And the task that I was tackling was vastly simpler than weather prediction. In one of my courses, I point out that my hearing aids are 10,000 times more powerful than a Mercury, and a damn sight less than 10,000th of the size! On the other hand it was amazing what could be done in the 1960s with mini computers with 16K memories and 1Mhz cycle and slower times, that were coded in assembler and didn't have large general purpose bloated operating systems in them. Multiple deep sighs. You are corresponding with someone who did just that - except that it wasn't assembler on the Mercury, but machine code, in octal. Also, from your postings, I doubt that you know the science involved - I don't claim to, but I do know enough to know that the correct science couldn't be modelled even on a KDF9, let alone a Mercury. Having to use known unrealistic models to fit within the resources available was part of the problem, right up until the 1980s. This is getting ridiculous, so I shall stop here. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Wednesday, 28 August 2013 18:48:09 UTC+1, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-08-28 17:26:07 +0100, David Hill said: On 28/08/2013 14:47, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk I have a feeling you are not telling us all, we have ways of making you talk :-)) |
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On 2013-08-29 10:55:09 +0000, Judith, Massif Central France. said:
On Wednesday, 28 August 2013 18:48:09 UTC+1, Sacha wrote: On 2013-08-28 17:26:07 +0100, David Hill said: On 28/08/2013 14:47, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:00:47 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk I have a feeling you are not telling us all, we have ways of making you talk :-)) Yea yeah - we have a stand outside and get soaked, fetish! ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! Well we know what some wifes are like, "Oh could you just pop out and get so and so from the car I forgot it", and we do wory about Ray, You wait - just wait....! ;-) In the rain Who do you think I am? Enry igins? You're Welsh. You can't possibly sing that badly! ;-) Half Welsh and the voice came from the English side. |
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I have a feeling you are not telling us all, we have ways of making you talk :-)) Yea yeah - we have a stand outside and get soaked, fetish! ;-) Something to do with wet T shirts? |
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This is getting ridiculous, so I shall stop here. How the hell anyone can forecast our weather is beyond me. Here this morning we had a drizzle with a few heavy showers, but about half a mile away as the crow flies on the M4 below us it was bone dry, but within 2 miles I was back on wet roads. So who's forecast would have been right? On the way back from the hospital just 4 miles away I drove through heavy rain shower, but back here the ground was bone dry. That's why we always talk about the weather. As was said many, many years ago, "In Britain we don't have a climate, we just have weather." David @ a very confused side of Swansea Bay |
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David Hill wrote: This is getting ridiculous, so I shall stop here. How the hell anyone can forecast our weather is beyond me. Here this morning we had a drizzle with a few heavy showers, but about half a mile away as the crow flies on the M4 below us it was bone dry, but within 2 miles I was back on wet roads. So who's forecast would have been right? On the way back from the hospital just 4 miles away I drove through heavy rain shower, but back here the ground was bone dry. That is precisely why better predictions would be more probabilistic, such as: Swansea Bay. Patchy light rain and occasional heavy showers, with a 60% chance of any precipitation and a 5% chance of 4-6 mm of precipitation. More than 10 mm anywhere is unlikely. With that, you know what to expect. You may not know what any one location will get, but that is not predictable (even in theory). I have observed the effect you describe cycling back from work, which is a mere 3.5 miles away. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 2013-08-29 14:14:31 +0100, David Hill said:
But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) He'd gone to see a member of the family so when it was time to come home he made a dash for the car and got soaked there at *that* house and this was added to by the few paces from his car to our front door here at *this* house. Whew! I hope I've now established I don't make him go outside and stand in the rain just because it's fun! Well we know what some wifes are like, "Oh could you just pop out and get so and so from the car I forgot it", and we do wory about Ray, You wait - just wait....! ;-) In the rain Who do you think I am? Enry igins? You're Welsh. You can't possibly sing that badly! ;-) Half Welsh and the voice came from the English side. Oh naturally! ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:00:14 +0200, Martin wrote:
I have a feeling you are not telling us all, we have ways of making you talk :-)) Yea yeah - we have a stand outside and get soaked, fetish! ;-) Not dressed in shiny rubber? Naw, just a T shirt. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 2013-08-29 18:10:33 +0100, Dave Liquorice said:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:00:14 +0200, Martin wrote: I have a feeling you are not telling us all, we have ways of making you talk :-)) Yea yeah - we have a stand outside and get soaked, fetish! ;-) Not dressed in shiny rubber? Naw, just a T shirt. Don't be silly. Ray doesn't own any T shirts! -- Sacha South Devon |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 03:55:09 -0700 (PDT), Judith, Massif Central
France. wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) I have a feeling you are not telling us all, we have ways of making you talk :-)) Hm! She is made of harder stuff! Cardinal Fang! Fetch...THE COMFY CHAIR! -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:42:41 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:12:03 +0100, Sacha wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. If you have been on a long journey and had been anticipating a Loo relief with minutes of arrival sitting in a car with water cascading over it for an indeterminate time can be far from enjoyable. G.Harman |
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On 2013-08-29 18:19:22 +0100, Dave Liquorice said:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 03:55:09 -0700 (PDT), Judith, Massif Central France. wrote: The very heavy rain stopped after about 10 minutes. Ray came in soaked just getting from house to car to house! Daft bugger, really heavy ran hardly ever lasts that long in this country, 10 or 15 mins at the most. I just sit in the car and wait, enjoying being dry whilst watching it belt down. What can I say? His ickle wifey was waiting for him. ;-) I see, say no more. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. But why did you send Ray out to the car in the first place? Ye gods - it's the Grand Inqusitor Show here! ;-) I have a feeling you are not telling us all, we have ways of making you talk :-)) Hm! She is made of harder stuff! Cardinal Fang! Fetch...THE COMFY CHAIR! Make it a sofa - two of us, you know! ;-) -- Sacha South Devon |
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Thunder on the right!
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:28:39 +0200, Martin wrote:
I have a feeling you are not telling us all, we have ways of making you talk :-)) Yea yeah - we have a stand outside and get soaked, fetish! ;-) Not dressed in shiny rubber? Naw, just a T shirt. Wet of course. It's pouring with rain... and being the UK it won't be warm rain either. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
Naw, just a T shirt. Wet of course. It's pouring with rain... and being the UK it won't be warm rain either. Very very warm here tonight. |
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On 30 Aug 2013 00:15:27 GMT, Victoria Conlan wrote:
Naw, just a T shirt. Wet of course. It's pouring with rain... and being the UK it won't be warm rain either. Very very warm here tonight. Was it raining? Did you go out in just a T shirt to find out if the rain was warm? -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:33:31 +0100, Sacha
wrote: If you have been on a long journey and had been anticipating a Loo relief with minutes of arrival sitting in a car with water cascading over it for an indeterminate time can be far from enjoyable. G.Harman There's a terribly personal note of distress and pain in that particular post! Fortunately not that often. When my work was mobile the main annoyance was wishing to go to the Loo after a long journey while at the same time wishing to hear the end of a feature on the radio. At least now with the iPlayer that is an inconvenience that has been solved so one may proceed into a convenience. G.Harman |
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On 2013-08-30 00:49:55 +0100, Dave Liquorice said:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:28:39 +0200, Martin wrote: I have a feeling you are not telling us all, we have ways of making you talk :-)) Yea yeah - we have a stand outside and get soaked, fetish! ;-) Not dressed in shiny rubber? Naw, just a T shirt. Wet of course. It's pouring with rain... and being the UK it won't be warm rain either. Dry T-shirts here! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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