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Colin Davidson 09-05-2003 06:46 PM

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"Anthony E Anson" wrote in message
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Yes. But they're subterranean, so could be considered roots... Unless
perhaps not being allowed to dig up roots would allow us to hunt for

corms
and tubers also?


No. Fungus has a mycelium, not a root.


And a tuber made of stem tissue, not root. Is a potato now not a root
vegetable? Got to be very careful when insisting on botanical/mycological
definitions.

No. But is a fungus legally different?


Yes, though certain mainly ignorant but influential voices are trying to
get legislation enacted that will effectively prevent anyone from
picking fungi.


Really?



Colin Davidson 09-05-2003 06:46 PM

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"Anthony Anson" wrote in message
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In which case (assuming that it unequivocably labels it as a 'plant')
the part pertaining to the hedgehog is not enfoceable. Bloody daft too,
as I have seen clones of that covering about a quarter of an acre in
Scotland.

I bet they haven't added Amanita phalloides, verna and virosa - much

rarer....

I wonder also if Satans Bolete is in the list. I'll have to have a closer
look...



Anthony E Anson 09-05-2003 08:56 PM

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Yes, though certain mainly ignorant but influential voices are trying to
get legislation enacted that will effectively prevent anyone from
picking fungi.


Really?


'Fraid so. I've got a news cutting stashed awai in a heap somewhere or other.

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Anthony E Anson 09-05-2003 08:56 PM

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A shame that the hedgehog fungus and it's relatives are so scarce in the
wild. Not only would it be nice to come across them, but they make
especially good eating (I've only eaten imported specimens).


They are plentiful in the Highlands of Scotland.

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Janet Baraclough 10-05-2003 11:20 PM

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Yes, though certain mainly ignorant but influential voices are trying to
get legislation enacted that will effectively prevent anyone from
picking fungi.


Really?


'Fraid so. I've got a news cutting stashed awai in a heap somewhere or
other.


Isn't that also because commercially minded pickers have been
stripping "wild" colonies? I know a woodland area within reach of
Glasgow which was regularly targetted by a vanload of pickers who were
supplying upmarket restaurants; without the land owner's consent.

Janet

Nick Maclaren 11-05-2003 01:08 PM

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
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Yes, though certain mainly ignorant but influential voices are trying to
get legislation enacted that will effectively prevent anyone from
picking fungi.


Really?


'Fraid so. I've got a news cutting stashed awai in a heap somewhere or
other.


Isn't that also because commercially minded pickers have been
stripping "wild" colonies? I know a woodland area within reach of
Glasgow which was regularly targetted by a vanload of pickers who were
supplying upmarket restaurants; without the land owner's consent.


Yes. There is a traditional war between gypsies who have collected
field mushrooms for sale as far back as anyone can remember and the
landowners who want to stop them. Some 20 years back, the trend for
wild mushrooms extended from blewits in the Midlands and so on to
the fancy London restaurants. When I have been back to the places
I used to pick fungi in the New Forest, the locations with the main
edible varieties have clearly been picked out very early.

Of course, the damn bureaucrats and their camp followers regard the
Right Solution to this as making fungi the landowners' property,
rather than addressing the ecological problems that mean suitable
woodlands are shrinking.

I know of no evidence that picking for personal use ever has caused
a noticeable effect, which isn't going to stop it being banned.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Anthony E Anson 11-05-2003 05:33 PM

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Yes, though certain mainly ignorant but influential voices are
trying to
get legislation enacted that will effectively prevent anyone from
picking fungi.


Really?


'Fraid so. I've got a news cutting stashed awai in a heap somewhere or
other.


Isn't that also because commercially minded pickers have been
stripping "wild" colonies? I know a woodland area within reach of
Glasgow which was regularly targetted by a vanload of pickers who were
supplying upmarket restaurants; without the land owner's consent.


That's probably what triggered the campaign, but there should be found
be better ways of controlling that particular menace.

In Scotland, there isn't a law of common trespass, and provided you do
no damage, or remove the owner's property, there's nothing in law
(AFAIK, BICBW) to prevent the wholesale looting of fungi. In England at
least, they are not considered the property of the landowner, just as
treasure trove bypasses him.

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jane taylor 12-05-2003 02:21 PM

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On Fri, 9 May 2003 08:14:39 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

~
~"Anthony E Anson" wrote in message
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~ The message
~ from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
~
~ But they don't migrate. Dig up the parent bulb and you get the bulbules
~ with it.
~
~ Only if you remove a large lump of topsoil, too. If you have ever
~ tried to get rid of bluebells, you will know how hard it is to do.
~
~ I transplanted all the bulbs from a bed last winter (Including some
~ bluebells) and the only ones which escaped my notice were a few
~ kinadoxae and some juvenile grape hyacinth. And it's not as if the soil
~ in my new plot is exactly friable - yet.
~
~Ahaaaaaaaaa I will swap you montbretia for bluebells:)
~
~O
~
~
SO WILL I!!!!!!
(as long as they are non-scripta!)


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jane taylor 12-05-2003 02:33 PM

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On Fri, 9 May 2003 08:14:39 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

~
~"Anthony E Anson" wrote in message
...
~ The message
~ from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
~
~ But they don't migrate. Dig up the parent bulb and you get the bulbules
~ with it.
~
~ Only if you remove a large lump of topsoil, too. If you have ever
~ tried to get rid of bluebells, you will know how hard it is to do.
~
~ I transplanted all the bulbs from a bed last winter (Including some
~ bluebells) and the only ones which escaped my notice were a few
~ kinadoxae and some juvenile grape hyacinth. And it's not as if the soil
~ in my new plot is exactly friable - yet.
~
~Ahaaaaaaaaa I will swap you montbretia for bluebells:)
~
~O
~
~
SO WILL I!!!!!!
(as long as they are non-scripta!)


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Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

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Anthony E Anson 12-05-2003 08:32 PM

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~Ahaaaaaaaaa I will swap you montbretia for bluebells:)
~
~O
~
~
SO WILL I!!!!!!
(as long as they are non-scripta!)


Too late - contracts exchanged. I can't guarantee absence of Dago sap either.

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Jon 12-05-2003 09:44 PM

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x-no-archive: yes,On Tue, 6 May 2003 11:41:20 +0100, Anthony E Anson
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Does anyone have any advice on wild garlic? It grows profusely here,
but I don't know if I can do anything worthwhile with it. Can the
young shoots be used early in the season? Anything? It smells
wonderful when you stand on it:-)


Pick the leaves sparingly, and add them to salads, sandwiches, etc. Chop
them fine and use them like chives or garlic in cooking. I've often wrapped
small chickens with them (with a bit of butter), wrapped them in foil, and
roasted them. Or add them to potato soup. One of the best wild foods, very
versatile.


Hmmm. Been trying to lay my hands on some ransomes for yonks, Jon -
could you save me some seeds when they're ready, please?


I shall try... if I remember:-)
And thanks to Colin for the only bit of advice ( see massive spiel )

Jon


Jon 12-05-2003 09:44 PM

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x-no-archive: yes,On Mon, 05 May 2003 23:50:19 +0100, Stephen Howard
wrote:

On Mon, 05 May 2003 21:38:38 +0100, Jon wrote:

Does anyone have any advice on wild garlic? It grows profusely here,
but I don't know if I can do anything worthwhile with it. Can the
young shoots be used early in the season? Anything? It smells
wonderful when you stand on it:-)


D'you mean Ramsons - the broad leaved wild garlic with the little
sprays of white flowers?
The leaves are great in salads, or chopped and used like chives in
other dishes.

It's a wonderful smell in the wild - in this part of Hants there's
tons of 'em growing away merrily.
Only problem is, once they go over they start whiffing a bit - and
en-masse it's a bit of a stench.

Regards,

Thanks Stephen, unfortunately everyone else went off on one. I ask a
simple question, go away for a few days and come back to 97 messages,
95 of which were offering no advice at all.
Still, glad you all enjoyed the thread that you made it:-)
Jon


Anthony E Anson 13-05-2003 09:56 PM

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Thanks Stephen, unfortunately everyone else went off on one. I ask a
simple question, go away for a few days and come back to 97 messages,
95 of which were offering no advice at all.
Still, glad you all enjoyed the thread that you made it:-)


That's usenet for you.

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