I currently have a fairly tall ' a frame' ladder from which I cut my
hedges nut I need to cut the water shoots from my Bramley Apple tree
which is too high for the 7 foot I can reach at the moment.

Seen the collapsible straight ones on the market and wondered if they
were fairly safe/sturdy to use ? If not what should I go for in a long
ladder, as if I am buying one I may as well get one that reaches
upstairs windows etc.
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On 13/01/2014 11:59, Janet Tweedy wrote:
I currently have a fairly tall ' a frame' ladder from which I cut my
hedges nut I need to cut the water shoots from my Bramley Apple tree
which is too high for the 7 foot I can reach at the moment.

Seen the collapsible straight ones on the market and wondered if they
were fairly safe/sturdy to use ? If not what should I go for in a long
ladder, as if I am buying one I may as well get one that reaches
upstairs windows etc.

Depends if you can prop it up against the trunk or some other sturdy
part of the tree. You may have to extend it further than you think to
find a good support. I have a 3 section 10 foot aluminium job which I
can just about manage on my own. Have never used it for tree work though.

Maybe a window cleaner's ladder? They are narrow at the top.

On 13/01/2014 12:14, start noble wrote:
Depends if you can prop it up against the trunk or some other sturdy
part of the tree. You may have to extend it further than you think to
find a good support. I have a 3 section 10 foot aluminium job which I
can just about manage on my own. Have never used it for tree work though.

Maybe a window cleaner's ladder? They are narrow at the top.


might be an idea! Thanks. Plenty of branches to prop the ladder up against.

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On 2014-01-14 02:23:32 +0000, Janet Tweedy said:

On 13/01/2014 12:14, start noble wrote:
Depends if you can prop it up against the trunk or some other sturdy
part of the tree. You may have to extend it further than you think to
find a good support. I have a 3 section 10 foot aluminium job which I
can just about manage on my own. Have never used it for tree work though.

Maybe a window cleaner's ladder? They are narrow at the top.


might be an idea! Thanks. Plenty of branches to prop the ladder up against.

If you can access it, there's a photo of the Exotic Garden in or near
Norwich, where someone is cutting an immensely tall hedge on a ditto
ladder! Or you could email the owner, Will Giles, to ask him what they
use. It looks like a garden well worth visting, btw.
http://www.exoticgarden.com/
It's also worth a look at the Japnese tripod ladders, Kyatatsu, though
nobody could call them cheap. http://www.niwaki.com/
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Janet Tweedy wrote:

I currently have a fairly tall ' a frame' ladder from which I cut my
hedges nut I need to cut the water shoots from my Bramley Apple tree
which is too high for the 7 foot I can reach at the moment.

Seen the collapsible straight ones on the market and wondered if they
were fairly safe/sturdy to use ? If not what should I go for in a long
ladder, as if I am buying one I may as well get one that reaches
upstairs windows etc.

We got an industrial platform step ladder (10' if I recall) some time
ago, on the grounds we were getting older and I have no balance worth
a damn, and have never regretted it. It's just SO much more stable
than the alternatives.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote

Janet Tweedy wrote:

I currently have a fairly tall ' a frame' ladder from which I cut my
hedges nut I need to cut the water shoots from my Bramley Apple tree
which is too high for the 7 foot I can reach at the moment.

Seen the collapsible straight ones on the market and wondered if they
were fairly safe/sturdy to use ? If not what should I go for in a long
ladder, as if I am buying one I may as well get one that reaches
upstairs windows etc.

We got an industrial platform step ladder (10' if I recall) some time
ago, on the grounds we were getting older and I have no balance worth
a damn, and have never regretted it. It's just SO much more stable
than the alternatives.

This sort of thing Nick?
http://www.ladderstore.com/step-ladd...epladders.html

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Bob Hobden wrote:
"Nick Maclaren" wrote

Janet Tweedy wrote:

I currently have a fairly tall ' a frame' ladder from which I cut my
hedges nut I need to cut the water shoots from my Bramley Apple tree
which is too high for the 7 foot I can reach at the moment.

Seen the collapsible straight ones on the market and wondered if they
were fairly safe/sturdy to use ? If not what should I go for in a long
ladder, as if I am buying one I may as well get one that reaches
upstairs windows etc.

We got an industrial platform step ladder (10' if I recall) some time
ago, on the grounds we were getting older and I have no balance worth
a damn, and have never regretted it. It's just SO much more stable
than the alternatives.

This sort of thing Nick?
http://www.ladderstore.com/step-ladd...epladders.html

Yes.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 13/01/2014 15:38, Bob Hobden wrote:
This sort of thing Nick?
http://www.ladderstore.com/step-ladd...epladders.html



I thought he meant a sort of mobile scaffolding.

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Janet Tweedy wrote:
On 13/01/2014 15:38, Bob Hobden wrote:
This sort of thing Nick?
http://www.ladderstore.com/step-ladd...epladders.html

I thought he meant a sort of mobile scaffolding.

No - I baulked at that on the grounds of storage problems.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 13/01/2014 13:16, Nick Maclaren wrote:
We got an industrial platform step ladder (10' if I recall) some time
ago, on the grounds we were getting older and I have no balance worth
a damn, and have never regretted it. It's just SO much more stable
than the alternatives.


where on earth do you store that then?

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On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:59:53 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote:

I currently have a fairly tall ' a frame' ladder from which I cut my
hedges nut I need to cut the water shoots from my Bramley Apple tree
which is too high for the 7 foot I can reach at the moment.

7 foot working height (ie shoulders) doesn't seem very high from near
the top of "fairly tall ' a frame' ladder". Think we need to tie
down what working height you need.

Have you considered the long reach pruners/loppers you can get? Not
things with a saw on the end but things with a secatur type head.

http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/pro...g-reach-pruner
(there is an tiltable head one as well)

But at only 6' overall that doesn't strike me as particularly "long
reach". This one is just over 7'6", still not very
long...:

http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/pro...arp-advantage-
telescopic-tree-pruner

Seen the collapsible straight ones on the market and wondered if they
were fairly safe/sturdy to use ?

Safe as any ladder, which isn't all that safe IMHO. They do flex a
bit.

If not what should I go for in a long ladder, as if I am buying one I
may as well get one that reaches upstairs windows etc.

If you have that use as well as the tree trimming then some form of
extension ladder is the requirement. If you want to be able to work
on the window frame tops the ladder needs to be long enough to reach
the wall above the window when at the working angle (15 degrees off
vertical or 1 unit out for every 4 units up). For a normal sort of 2
floor house that'll be about twenty feet maximum working extension.
For a two section that'll mean a ladder with a minimum lenght around
14' (extension ladders overlap by about 4' minimum). Have you some
where secure and out of sight to store it. Tea leaves like ladders to
gain access to open 2nd floor windows your or a neighbours... 14' can
be quite a handful in a breeze a three section may well be a better
option. You don't have to use it as a three section if two would be
long enough for lower heights.

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Dave.

On 13/01/2014 14:37, Dave Liquorice wrote:
Have you some
where secure and out of sight to store it.


Well no which is why I was going to perhaps opt for a collapsible one
that isn't quite that high. and forget about the upstairs windows!

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On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 02:26:54 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote:

Have you some where secure and out of sight to store it.

Well no which is why I was going to perhaps opt for a collapsible one
that isn't quite that high. and forget about the upstairs windows!

A three section ought to fit in a standard garage. If you car isn't
too low you can lay it down the middle and park over it. Possibly
each section next to each other not stacked. Just cover it with
something in case there are any oils drips not that modern cars drip
oil. Tuck the cover under the ladder so the fan draught (if any)
doesn't lift it.

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Dave.

On 2014-01-14 02:26:54 +0000, Janet Tweedy said:

On 13/01/2014 14:37, Dave Liquorice wrote:
Have you some
where secure and out of sight to store it.


Well no which is why I was going to perhaps opt for a collapsible one
that isn't quite that high. and forget about the upstairs windows!

Chain the sliding bits together so a thief can't easily open them and
then stick it all in a shed or friend's shed, perhaps?
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www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:11:07 +0000, sacha wrote:

Chain the sliding bits together so a thief can't easily open them and
then stick it all in a shed or friend's shed, perhaps?

Bolt cutters, as used to cut the padlock off the shed door...

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Dave.