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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:09:30 +0200, Martin wrote:

Whatever you do pls don't use a wmv file. Even a mac needs a

special
plugin to read these ...


OTOH the vast majority use Windows :-)


If Charlie still has the broadcast resolution file file I think it
would be advantageus to have at least an MP4(*) encoded with a modern
coder (H268? if that is what HTML5 browsers understand). One thing
that struck me about the current clip, is the quality, it's not very
good for the size of the file. I think the resolution could be upped
a bit and a better codec used to bring the filesize down but retain
the quality.

(*) And OGG if you insist. You only *need* one and I suspect that MP4
will have wider support than OGG. Having both just covers more
browsers.

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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:09:30 +0200, Martin wrote:

Whatever you do pls don't use a wmv file. Even a mac needs a

special
plugin to read these ...


OTOH the vast majority use Windows :-)


If Charlie still has the broadcast resolution file file I think it
would be advantageus to have at least an MP4(*) encoded with a modern
coder (H268? if that is what HTML5 browsers understand). One thing
that struck me about the current clip, is the quality, it's not very
good for the size of the file. I think the resolution could be upped
a bit and a better codec used to bring the filesize down but retain
the quality.

(*) And OGG if you insist. You only *need* one and I suspect that MP4
will have wider support than OGG. Having both just covers more
browsers.

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Dave.

I do still have the original video for both clips, I have now changed the
clips on the web site to MP4 but sadly my Android tablet still doesn't like
them!

Changing the file format was easy and quick, I have looked at HTML5 but I am
not sure if/how I can change at least the home page over to that? You must
understand I am a bear of little brain and don't really want to spend hours
re doing 800 pages on my web site just so a couple of clips work. but if
there is a way I can re code the home page I will give that a go.

I am sure the un flattering comments about my old Frontpage program are
completely justified but it did the job at the time and was free as some
gave it to me when upgrading.


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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:08:46 +0100, Charlie Pridham wrote:

Changing the file format was easy and quick, I have looked at HTML5 but
I am not sure if/how I can change at least the home page over to that?
You must understand I am a bear of little brain and don't really want to
spend hours re doing 800 pages on my web site just so a couple of clips
work. but if there is a way I can re code the home page I will give that
a go.


Depends what plain text editor you have, notepad will do. I'd play on
a test page to begin with, so as you are familiar with Frontpage
create a new blank page, with a bit of text like "Edit here", save
and then open it in notepad. Find the HTML5 code example posted
earlier and copy it into the file in notepad, where the text "Edit
here" appears, change the filenames etc to match your files. Save and
see what happens if you load that page into a browser. GIYF for help
on the tags used, http://www.w3schools.com is pretty good, well I
like it, "the try it yourself" feature is a quick way of tweaking
things and seeing their effect.

I am sure the un flattering comments about my old Frontpage program are
completely justified but it did the job at the time and was free as some
gave it to me when upgrading.


It does have a very poor reputation. tends to produce code that is
many times the size it needs to be, code that is non-standards
compliant, code that relys on certain Microsoft extensions that not
all Microsoft products supported. But this is a long time ago ...

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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:08:46 +0100, Charlie Pridham wrote:

Changing the file format was easy and quick, I have looked at HTML5 but
I am not sure if/how I can change at least the home page over to that?
You must understand I am a bear of little brain and don't really want to
spend hours re doing 800 pages on my web site just so a couple of clips
work. but if there is a way I can re code the home page I will give that
a go.


As an experiment, you could try changing the first three lines of your
home page (the local copy, obviously) from:

html

head

(which it is at present, where no document type is declared and browsers
just have to guess) to

!DOCTYPE html
html
head

(which declares it HTML5) and see if it breaks anything! Then put in the
VIDEO tags as I suggested and see if that works.

Tidying it up properly to remove all the invalid (microsoft) values and
tags, and obsolete tags, and putting all the formatting into a cascading
style-sheet would be a much bigger undertaking. How about £10 a page?
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 17:58:19 +0200, Martin wrote:


We tried two Android tablets, both had no problem downloading the mp4
file,
neither could play it.


That's funny, my daughter has an android tablet, she has no problem with
mp4 AFAIK.



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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:14:53 +0200, Martin wrote:

Since then I have found an app on my tablet called not surprisingly
Video Player. It does play MP4 files.


She has a Galaxy note 10.1 IIRC. I asked, she can play flash but "had to
hack it" to make it work.



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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:32:30 +0200, Martin wrote:

I need help. I followed instructions printed in two magazines on how to
obtain and install the final version of Flash made for android. It's
interesting that there were two different final versions depending on
the magazine. It worked for a couple of minutes and has not worked
since. I get messages that I need to update the version I installed. Fat
chance :-)


Sorry, I can't be of much practical assistance. And since it was hacking
I doubt she even remembers how she did it... She said "I installed an
archived version and deleted a bunch of SW, it was a PITA."



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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:32:30 +0200, Martin wrote:

I need help. I followed instructions printed in two magazines on how to
obtain and install the final version of Flash made for android. It's
interesting that there were two different final versions depending on
the magazine. It worked for a couple of minutes and has not worked
since. I get messages that I need to update the version I installed. Fat
chance :-)


Sorry, I can't be of much practical assistance. And since it was hacking
I doubt she even remembers how she did it... She said "I installed an
archived version and deleted a bunch of SW, it was a PITA."



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OK I have now effected the changes kindly supplied and uploaded the modified
page to a location called www.roselandhouse.co.uk/rose.htm

Not sure why I have the text visible?

Anyway my android is still going mad but I downloaded a different browser
and it works on that so I guess that's where the problem lies so I am not
sure whether to carry on trying or give up!


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On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 11:52:24 +0200, Martin wrote:

Android tablets don't have and can't have Flash, because Adobe no longer
support Android.


Mines does, there was a brief period after Adobe pulled the plug
withoout warning, when there was a download available from Playstore.
But that is no longer there AFAIK and support certainly isn't.


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